Yep wondering the same here too. I'm fine with updating the iOS versions, but need the file to open on the MacBook Pro running 10.14.That is also my main question! I have a Mojave MBP around and would very much like to be able to open files created/modified in newer Pages/Numbers.
One main reason is they use it internally.
Yes and a way for Apple to sell hardware too I feel.
I use numbers and pages quite often. If you have used Word and Excel and know how to use them effectively, there’s probably no reason to switch.do people actually use these?
i’m not trying to be a jerk. i’m sincerely curious. i’ve looked at them lots of times but i guess because i’ve been using excel and word for decades i just get confused and revert
They seem to like iWork during their WWDC demos to show off new features of the operating system. iWork apps are usually the first to get the new features when there is an OS update.do you know this or do you assume this?
We had a long talk in one thread if Apple actually used iWork for their corporates work and if it was sufficient or not especially with excel, or does the iWork maker resort to MS Office when they need to get real work done?
i wondering the same thing, i cant see apple just stopping iwork to work on Mojave instantly.Looking through the posts here, I didn't see anything related to document compatibility with previous versions.
I have an iMac with Mojave still (production reasons) which runs Pages, Numbers and Keynote ver 10.1
Before I upgrade, any compatibility issues or anything that mentions any? ver 10.3.9 didn't introduce any document format changes but this being a full number release, I thought I would ask.
I use these apps every day. I'l have 5-10 documents open in tabs in all three of the iWork apps. The intuitive interface makes them so easy to master. It's one of the main things that keeps me buying Macs. Having to use google apps is like a time warp 15 years back (although at least a lot of Mac UI conventions seem to have been implemented in the web interface) and meanwhile I find the Office window management and ribbon completely disrupts any productivity for me. People may be used to google docs (and rely on the amazing collaboration) or Office, but they may not know what they are missing.iWork must be a complete money sink for Apple. Not sure who even uses this program. MS and Google own the productivity space.
If you have an iPad (or iPhone) you can use the continuity feature 'add sketch' to an iWork document on a Mac. Works really well just like the 'add photo' function which I also use all the time.What I still want. Ability to add drawings in pages on Macs. You can on iPads and iPhones but not Macs. It doesn’t make any sense.
I use numbers and pages quite often. If you have used Word and Excel and know how to use them effectively, there’s probably no reason to switch.
It was supposed to replace Appleworks. Apple never once stated that iWork was a rival suite to MS Office nor have they ever compared Pages and Numbers to Word and Excel. They've always been proud of Keynote and rightfully so because it's the best in the industry...sadly Powerpoint still gets used more for reasons due to more people are using Windows.
I don’t think Macs were ever without MS Office seeing as Office was on Mac before it was on Windows. I’ve been a dedicated Mac user since MacOS 8 and office was available then and before then. It started with Word and when Microsoft saw it take off on Mac that’s when they made the Windows version.. Apple was trying to walk a line between being a Microsoft competitor but cooperating with them and encouraging them to write more Mac compatible code. A whole lot of Macs were sold BECAUSE Microsoft had a native version of Office that could run on them, and that was a requirement for the purchaser.
Indeed. I even could imagine that Pages/Numbers/Keynote are, to a certain extent, a fallback option for Apple in the event that the relationship with Microsoft deteriorates.Apple was trying to walk a line between being a Microsoft competitor but cooperating with them and encouraging them to write more Mac compatible code. A whole lot of Macs were sold BECAUSE Microsoft had a native version of Office that could run on them, and that was a requirement for the purchaser.
I believe there was an extended period where MS Office was stuck at 4.2 for a long time. It was “there” but getting less and less compatible each year.I don’t think Macs were ever without MS Office seeing as Office was on Mac before it was on Windows. I’ve been a dedicated Mac user since MacOS 8 and office was available then and before then. It started with Word and when Microsoft saw it take off on Mac that’s when they made the Windows version.
do people actually use these?
i’m not trying to be a jerk. i’m sincerely curious. i’ve looked at them lots of times but i guess because i’ve been using excel and word for decades i just get confused and revert
It bogs down to unusable on multi megabyte data analysis.oh snap! Truth is Numbers is far superior to that old abomination Excel in many respects. No crappy ribbon bar, instead a nice clean modern UI. Multiple tables per sheet instead of one hokin sheet to cram tables into all with the same row heights and column widths, even when they are not. Beautiful and elegant cell referencing based on named tables, columns and rows. I switched over when I got my first Mac in 2012, never looking back (A big reason, I don't have to pay for it, I'll admit that), but the better design in general won me over.
I transferred my income tax programs, and my retirement income planner (better than my broker's) over and I'm much happier with how Numbers functions vs. Excel.
Hey, I'll admit if you are vested in Excel, use it, if you use any (but should you?) of the functions that Excel has, then use it. If you use pivottables and don't know enough to use a database instead, use it.
But don't dump a crap load of hurt on a program you have probably very little experience with when your basis for judgment is solely familiarity.
Even though you don't need Final Cut Pro, I feel obligated to tell you that it's actually easier to use than iMovie.For the most part I think the software that comes on a Mac is decent. At least it's not bloatware like lower cost Window's machines often come loaded with. iWork is functional for a lot of tasks. iMovie is really a pretty dang good video editing program for those of us who are just doing some light editing before sharing videos with friends. I'm a photographer and Photos would not meet my needs, but it can meet the needs of many. There are more comprehensive and fully featured apps in nearly every category. I need more comprehensive photo editing software. But I don't need anything like Final Cut Pro. The Apple software is well integrated and works almost flawlessly with other Apple devices.
Yes, all of my customers use Numbers for personal use or for their small business (creatives, restaurants etc...). Mainly to make their income-expense tracking, annual tax statements, time tracking and so on. Sometimes we collaborate via the sharing feature to work on a document together.do people actually use these?
i’m not trying to be a jerk. i’m sincerely curious. i’ve looked at them lots of times but i guess because i’ve been using excel and word for decades i just get confused and revert
That was my first thought when I saw the version number.Looking through the posts here, I didn't see anything related to document compatibility with previous versions.
I have an iMac with Mojave still (production reasons) which runs Pages, Numbers and Keynote ver 10.1
Before I upgrade, any compatibility issues or anything that mentions any? ver 10.3.9 didn't introduce any document format changes but this being a full number release, I thought I would ask.
So far, all of my Numbers documents are working between version 10.1 on Mojave and version 11 on Big Sur. if there are any features added that are not cross compatible with the ver 10.1, I've not run into any of them yet.i wondering the same thing, i cant see apple just stopping iwork to work on Mojave instantly.
we could be safe!
Many of the updates this go around were related to how documents are created. I’ll look over the release notes again to see if there’s anything in there that might indicate a file level change.So far, all of my Numbers documents are working between version 10.1 on Mojave and version 11 on Big Sur. if there are any features added that are not cross compatible with the ver 10.1, I've not run into any of them yet.
Still need to test Pages and Keynote documents.
It prints what you tell it to print. If you don't want it to print a black background then obviously don't use a black background. If you told it to print a black background with white letters, and it didn't print the background but did print the white letters, then it would look like a picture of the Abominable Snowman during a snowstorm, and what would be the point of that? You control the output.I have a question regarding Pages, I see you can now create a new document, with a black background. If I use this format, this colours, whenever I print it, will it print it as a black page and white letters? Because that'd be a waste of ink.