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Apple Updates iWork Apps for iOS With Support for Scribble, New Image Picker, Editable Shapes and More

mtngoatjoe

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Forms are now easier to create and customize. Add a form to any table or use the new Basic Form template.
What does this mean? I use Numbers a lot, but I'm not familiar with this and can't find anything in the help.
 

headlessmike

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It’s still an Export process, which works very well. I use Pages to proofread Word documents occasionally and export them with the tracked changes perfectly intact. No big issue. I also save a copy of the Word version to Files (in the same folder as the Pages version). All on my iPad with no hassle at all.

I do that too. The compatibilities with the Office's formats are excellent in recent versions of these apps.
 

Mainsail

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What does this mean? I use Numbers a lot, but I'm not familiar with this and can't find anything in the help.

I don’t use forms , but when you hit the plus buttons to add a tab you can either 1. add a new sheet or 2. add a form based on the current sheet. A form is just a simplified version of the current sheet that allows rapid or easy data entry.
 

macdogpro

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Yes, better late few days than nothing. I’m very excited to try Scribble on Numbers, updating now.

Numbers maybe lack so far behing Excel, but I refuse to pay subscription for MS Office on iPadOS.
Pages is okay. Keynote on iPad is okay, but Keynote on Macs is great! I even make animated video presentation from Keynote for my clients’ presentation on large scale event.
 
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BWhaler

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Wonderful.

iWork is some of the best software on the market. I am so happy Apple continues to invest in it as we use it for both enterprise and at home.
 

jayducharme

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For me, the beauty of Pages is that it's a great layout program (along the lines of InDesign or Publisher). It's easy to use, fast and produces nice results. I just "Save as PDF" when I'm done and send the project off to the printing company without any problems. And for me, that "Save as PDF" function is how I prefer to share files with people. I don't have to worry about missing fonts or other formatting problems.
 

glindon

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What does this mean? I use Numbers a lot, but I'm not familiar with this and can't find anything in the help.
Forms make it easier to enter data as one “form” represents a singe row of data points on a table. I still don’t really find them very useful and the main problem I have is that hidden cells still appear in your forms. At least you can rearrange your form list now so the hidden cells are on the bottom. But I hid the damn cells for a reason!
 

Karma*Police

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It’s amazing how much more robust and intuitive Newton was than iPad + Apple Pencil. After 30 years, Apple somehow managed to regress in this area. Compared to Newton, scribble is half baked and really confusing. As far as I can tell, I can’t delete a single character, deleting objects isn’t possible, I can’t select objects (I have to use my finger??), object recognition is more limited than Newton, I can’t easily convert handwriting to text, using Notes with pencil is confusing as hell, and on and on. Apple really screwed this up. All they had to do was adopt Newton’s gestures and UX.
 

dmylrea

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Very few people pick a Mac over a PC just so they can get iWork for free. There are other reasons for the Mac price premium.
I would hope the price differential was for more that iWork! My point being that Apple gives NOTHING for free. It's all built into that "Apple Tax" that you pay when you purchase Apple.
 

glindon

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It’s amazing how much more robust and intuitive Newton was than iPad + Apple Pencil. After 30 years, Apple somehow managed to regress in this area. Compared to Newton, scribble is half baked and really confusing. As far as I can tell, I can’t delete a single character, deleting objects isn’t possible, I can’t select objects (I have to use my finger??), object recognition is more limited than Newton, I can’t easily convert handwriting to text, using Notes with pencil is confusing as hell, and on and on. Apple really screwed this up. All they had to do was adopt Newton’s gestures and UX.
It really does seem like scribble is for adding data only and not removing it. You can scribble out a whole word but that’s about it. I did find out that you can circle a word to select it. Still single characters are not possible.
 

TheWatchfulOne

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Pages and keynotes are fine and good alternatives to moffice suite. But i cant say the same for numbers.

still lacking a lot of compability imprivments with ms office which is the mainstream software of business world. Ms offices best feature is it is compatible with ms office. :)

it does not open excel files filtered coloumns.
As a long time Excel user, I’ve found that Numbers is fine for basic to slightly advanced tasks. It does “record” filtering, complex formulas, vlookups, hlookups, etc. It works very well with large data sets which is what I use it for primarily. It imports and exports to CSV. It has successfully imported every Excel spreadsheet I’ve tried it on. It does many things which I’ve never tried yet. I especially like its iCloud integration which, last time I checked, Excel did not have. And I really didn’t want to subscribe to Office 360.
 

Maconplasma

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Apple hasn't wanted Pages, Numbers and Keynote to be as complex as Word, Excel and Powerpoint because they wanted to make them easier to use. It's certainly true, Apple's versions are often dumbed down versions of Microsoft's productivity apps, but for so many people, myself included, that's just fine for what we need day to day for work or home use.
Except Keynote is not dumbed down and it's far better than Powerpoint, and it's been this way for well over 10 years.
 
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richinaus

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I stopped using Office several years ago and have used Pages and Keynote for preparing all my documents and presentations since then. I find them much easier to use then their Office equivalents (on my iPad). Obviously, each person’s experience will be different. (I don’t work with spreadsheets but I’ve been told that Numbers is not as good as Excel).

I prefer pages, numbers and keynote massively over the office apps.

Even though I prefer Outlook for email, I cannot stand word and excel and they are not the right apps for a designer type like me who just wants to do things quickly and get them out the way. In office I just spend time hunting around the ribbon to do something simple.

And I only do basic spreadsheets and docs, so the apple suite is perfect for my use [and yes this is for professional work].
Anything else in regards excel I get my partner to do - she is the spreadsheet expert and have no doubts it is a powerful tool.

right tool for the right job........
 

Maconplasma

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I would hope the price differential was for more that iWork! My point being that Apple gives NOTHING for free. It's all built into that "Apple Tax" that you pay when you purchase Apple.
Not everyone will agree with you.
 

macdogpro

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Select a cell and make sure that the floating palette you have selected the pen with the “A” on it.

Mind pointing that out on a screenshot?
The scribble menu is not appearing When i double tap the cell with my pencil.
Single tap would just drag the content.
 

Mr. Dee

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When my three remaining Office 365 subs that I have run out, I’m switching to this full time. For now, Word and Excel still remain my go to.
 

glindon

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Mind pointing that out on a screenshot?
The scribble menu is not appearing When i double tap the cell with my pencil.
Single tap would just drag the content.
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There is no scribble menu. Just make sure your pencil settings aren’t set to scroll. Tap a cell with your finger and make sure the “A” pen is chosen.
 

macdogpro

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There is no scribble menu. Just make sure your pencil settings aren’t set to scroll. Tap a cell with your finger and make sure the “A” pen is chosen.

thanks!

I finally figure it out by myself. The pencil scrolling was turned on, that’s why scribble is not showing. Can switch this in the numbers’ pencil settings. Even there’s an option to double tap the pencil to toggle this function on and off. neat!
 

darkslide29

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They were paid apps! They were 80 bucks... then reduced to $20 in the Mac and $10 in iPhone EACH...
Even iMovie and Garage Band you had to pay for them, then they made it free for new iPhones and Macs, later (only a couple of years ago) for older devices free as well.

Ah yes, I do remember happily paying for Garage Band on my iPhone. It's too bad that person you replied to isn't owning their original comment, but edited to a single period. Maybe too people replying to them. :D
 
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iDento

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Forms make it easier to enter data as one “form” represents a singe row of data points on a table. I still don’t really find them very useful and the main problem I have is that hidden cells still appear in your forms. At least you can rearrange your form list now so the hidden cells are on the bottom. But I hid the damn cells for a reason!
I want to use forms but my documents are shared with my employees and forms won’t work with shared documents. How stupid is that.
 
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