Apple Updates Logic Pro X With Feature and Performance Improvements, 300+ Chinese Instrument Loops

[JamesPDX]

Not entirely, I've seen a fair few studios that run their machines without any network connection as a 'security' precaution. Not really convinced by that approach, but it's cases like that where an "Always-Online" activation system wouldn't work at all.

Yep. That "Pro Tools PC" group has some sort of (Windows 7 sandboxed?) browser for their units. Those machines are not for browsing. I'd like the same thing in a Mac, but that's a different thread.

I didn't mean the Adobe CC kind of "Always-Online" kind of nonsense -I just meant the install/machine ID/authentication, etc. But then yeah, what you said. Pro Tools users generally turn off WiFi and Bluetooth. But I'd still use "direct" ethernet for VEP5. In the days of old, your Digidesign hardware was the dongle.

What's really a shame is that you can't run the Alchemy synth in VEP5 as a separate plugin. So, I just keep Logic, Garageband, and Mainstage around for clients. Everything that I start begins with Pro Tools 12 and Vienna Ensemble Pro 5.

 

[bighype]

Apple seems to be sucking up too much to communist Chinese.

Tim Cook likes to preach about privacy and democracy but he's super-quiet about communist chinese and their violations of basic human rights.

 

[JamesPDX]

When are we going to get all of the instruments from India's culture? All of them.

 

[dweezle3]

As someone who currently uses Ableton, I'd be interested to hear if anyone has a particularly compelling reason to try out Logic? I've never looked into for more than a few minutes at a time, but I'm wondering if it's worth shelling out a few extra hundred for...

 

[shimy1984]

I can confirm that the performance of this release is way better than before. In particular, before this update, you couldn't scroll a song as it played or it would result in glitchy audio and would typically error out and kill playback. It was ridiculously bad.

That is no longer the case. Super happy with this update!
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As someone who currently uses Ableton, I'd be interested to hear if anyone has a particularly compelling reason to try out Logic? I've never looked into for more than a few minutes at a time, but I'm wondering if it's worth shelling out a few extra hundred for...

DAWs are a very personal choice.

Logic Pro X is my personal favorite DAW. It has a super clean interface and the Logic Remote for iPad is a nice bonus (although its too slow to actually do live automation). The big drawback is you cannot reorganize tracks in the mixer without reorganizing them in the track view which is kinda lame. My suggestion, is to make a track for everything (including Aux tracks), then order everything in the track view with folders. Once you start doing this, everything gets super clean and easy to manage. You can use the parent folder track for each group as a VCA.

I personally cannot stand Protools simply because it requires an iLok (I also refuse to buy plugins that use this POS as well).

I've also been diving into Reaper and Studio One but I don't like them as much. Studio One is a painful one for me because it is so close to being my preferred DAW, its just way too cluttered. Reaper is ridiculously customizable and I actually dig it but for me it has an issue with latency that just kills it for me.

Long story short, just play around and find what works best for you. I personally love Logic despite its few flaws here and there.

I have yet to try Ableton but hear great things.

 

[dosositos]

Back in the days (1993 and before), the computer just provided MIDI command to drive external sound modules, wired to a mixing desk.

I remember I rented my Powermac 7100 to Deep Dish who was visiting my producer's studio, and he did everything in the box with protools. We were shocked.

My first release in 1993 was "rotterdam 93", which charted in Spain and Italy and was made using a cracked version of Notator on the ST, an Ensoniq EPS16-plus, a 909 and an Alesis drum machine, on an Allen&Heat mixing desk, recorded on a Sony DAT and normalized on a Protools system running on soundcards on a original Macintosh.

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Back in the days (1993 and before), the computer just provided MIDI command to drive external sound modules, wired to a mixing desk.

I remember I rented my Powermac 7100 to Deep Dish who was visiting my producer's studio, and he did everything in the box with protools. We were shocked.

My first release in 1993 was "rotterdam 93", which charted in Spain and Italy and was made using a cracked version of Notator on the ST, an Ensoniq EPS16-plus, a 909 and an Alesis drum machine, on an Allen&Heat mixing desk, recorded on a Sony DAT and normalized on a Protools system running on soundcards on a original Macintosh.

Yes!!! DJCerla! I'm from Spain living now in the US, I still have a CD with the Rotterdam-dam-dam-dam-dam song! It's great see you here, a lot of remembering. My first music computer was an Atari 1040 with Cubase connected on chain to an Ensoniq Mirage, a Yamaha DX7 and a Korg 05, great time and golden years!!!! Now the VST's, Logic Pro X, Ableton Live and Reason make the things so easy! Best regards and excuse my English!.

 

[Shirasaki]

Not entirely, I've seen a fair few studios that run their machines without any network connection as a 'security' precaution. Not really convinced by that approach, but it's cases like that where an "Always-Online" activation system wouldn't work at all.

There are software requiring both dongle and online verification in order to function. One link fails then you just cannot use that software.

 

[xbjllb]

Worth noting, it's now no longer compatible with OS X 10.9, which is a shame.

Oh good, then 98% of pro users don't have to worry about what it breaks. They won't be forcing this studio off Mavericks. Will have to see what Logic XI brings and what IT will break.

 

[Mr Baldman]

For the love of god, please retina-ize EXS24

 

[loby]

My first recording system involved an Apple IIe and 2 Rhodes Chromas connected through serial ports (Midi hadn't been invented).

I would program all the synth tracks and then put it onto a 4 track cassette recorder with a "live" track. Then I would bounce two stereo tracks mixed with another new track to the other two tracks, or sometimes record all four tracks and mix them to two, put them back on the 4 track. There were all kinds of ways to get multi-tracking without the actual tracks.

Thinking back I don't know how I made anything that sounded good at all. But it did. You just had to be careful and do things like adding extra treble because you were going to lose some though the bounces, and you had to be an actual musician because you had to play a whole take at once because you couldn't punch in and out.

You youngins don't know how good you got it. Now get off m'lawn.

Ha ha ha, yes you are correct. Those were the days. I did wonders with my Tascam porta Studio on a cassette tape. I could not believe what I recorded with that little gem. Also used Encore 1.0 on floppy disks. The young-ins don't know how lucky they got it now. Totally professional studio on a laptop with Logic Pro X. Even with GarageBand. Would have loved to have that. Those days it costed $800 just for the program.

I wish I had Logic Pro X when I was a young-in. No need to spend $ on studio time. Just on the final mix.

 

[bafonso]

Ok, how much would you pay per month for LPX ? I'm thinking 6.99 or 9.99?

 

[xbjllb]

Ok, how much would you pay per month for LPX ? I'm thinking 6.99 or 9.99?

Not a penny. I doubt they will go the way of Adobe. I'm still on CS6 and will never "upgrade".

Subscriptions are ripoffs. Plain and simple.

Their problem is Apple still hasn't come up with OS as functional, instant, and streamlined as Snow Leopard. This once a year "free" "upgrade" and spending the first six months of installations beta-testing as they fix everything that broke is for the birds.

 

[Luap]

Apple seems to be sucking up too much to communist Chinese.

Tim Cook likes to preach about privacy and democracy but he's super-quiet about communist chinese and their violations of basic human rights.

Good lord. Its an update to Logic pro X, not a political statement. Reel your neck back in.

 

[JamesPDX]

As someone who currently uses Ableton, I'd be interested to hear if anyone has a particularly compelling reason to try out Logic? I've never looked into for more than a few minutes at a time, but I'm wondering if it's worth shelling out a few extra hundred for...

No. If you've got a good workflow going and you're fairly prolific, don't "fix" it. Get another SSD or a secondary display, or better nearfield monitors. -Something to truly enhance whatever it is that you're already doing.

I'm missing Studio Vision Pro 3.5 on System 8.6: The best DAW/Sequencer combo ever for the prolific.

 

[bafonso]

No. If you've got a good workflow going and you're fairly prolific, don't "fix" it. Get another SSD or a secondary display, or better nearfield monitors. -Something to truly enhance whatever it is that you're already doing.

I'm missing Studio Vision Pro 3.5 on System 8.6: The best DAW/Sequencer combo ever for the prolific.

LPX and Ableton have very different workflows. Most people use both.