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dissapointing..

..because the blackbooks cost $200 more but only offer an upgrade of 40 gigs and the black color. Wow. Maybe a $100 price differential?:rolleyes:
 
UK store still displaying old models. Be patient!

This quite a nice upgrade. Santa Rosa with 4GB RAM is enough for me to consider the MacBook now, but I suppose the iMac has FW800...:rolleyes:
 
Well my MacBook is now out of date but I don't think the difference is too big for now. I'll be interested to hear how the new graphics perform, but I'd guess a 133MHz bus increase and 40MHz processor increase wont matter too much.

Thankfully they didn't do something stupid with the case :D
 
Glad to see they didn't bother with ugly aluminum casing.

But still an Intel GPU? Yawn :rolleyes: I guess they decided that a card that performs on par with low-end dedicated GPUs from 2002 (Intel comparing the X3100 to the GeForce4 Ti 4200) is good enough for now.

Come on Apple. Is it really so hard to put a GeForce 8400M GS in there? If you must use a shared/integrated GPU, why not an ATI Xpress 1150/1250 or nVidia GeForce 7150M?
 
Not surprised

Why would someone be dissapointed? I mean we all knew it was just gonna be a small update anyway to boost sales a little for the holidays. Next "major" updates will come spring 2008 (as it always goes with the MB updates, spring vs. fall) and will probably be the backlit LED and alu cases. The point now is everone who almost got killed by the waiting, can stop whining now and finally get their new MB, and that's a good thing.

The lowest model doesn't have a Superdrive and hasn't gone up in CPU speed but I think apple made a logical choice there, otherwise the lowest and middle model would be too close to each other. I mean why would you get the middle model for just those 200Mhz's and 40GB HDD extra? I wouldn't pay $200 for that... ever.

The Ireland store is still selling the old one too... This is a little confusing. I wonder would it be cheaper to buy 4GB of RAM yourself rather then adding 500 euros to the price. The 250GB 5400rpm hard drive is welcome. That old 200GB option that was running at 4200rpm was a bit of a joke.
It would be cheaper indeed to get your own RAM, add getting your own HDD to that as well.
 
..because the blackbooks cost $200 more but only offer an upgrade of 40 gigs and the black color. Wow. Maybe a $100 price differential?:rolleyes:

As I have found with my purchase, the black case is different to the white case and shouldn't just be treated as pouring a different colour into a mixing machine.
 
GRRRRR

My Apple Student Developer discount expired on Wednesday. Going to have to wait now till next payday before I renew it and get a new Mac Book. Maybe Java will be sorted out in the next month to so I will be able to get some work done instead of dual booting it into ubuntu.
 
As I have found with my purchase, the black case is different to the white case and shouldn't just be treated as pouring a different colour into a mixing machine.

I'm sure you're right. I've never owner a blackbook so I wouldn't know the difference. I guess it's just the 'window appeal' type of difference. Maybe an everyday usual consumer wouldn't be able to tell the difference.
 
a bit upsetting.. i'm officially one of those 'bought a MPB 4 days before refresh' people. literally. my first mac too!

oh well.

i suppose i'm better off having spent $150 maxing out the RAM at 4gb (purchased at newegg) than spending $250 on .2ghz anyway. according to the website L2 cache is still 4mb

originally upgraded the HD to 7200rpm.. would definitely have spent 50more bucks on the new 200gb 7200rpm which is really my only real gripe

that's ok, looks like an upgrade to the processor and/or HD would take 2-3 weeks to ship! no thanks.. ill take my MBP now and wait for a more substantial upgrade!
 
I found one difference with the newer models from skimming the manual. They are using the new media keys like the new keyboards. Here is a grab from the manual.
 

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yawn...I guess we kinda saw it coming though.

LMAO at combo drive still being there...how pathetic. Why would they do that? Go into any big box store and you'd be hard pressed to find a single laptop with no DVD burner - it's become so mainstream now that it's really weird Apple still hasn't fully adopted it across the line.

Well, to be honest, if it were an option, i would take 50 euro's off to get a combo drive.. i never ever ever burn a dvd, and hardly ever a cd...

so there are some folks who just don't care about how many multiple layers, colors and sides a dvd has

and to be even more honest, i'd pay 100 euro's more for a macbook (pro) with no optical drive and more battery life ... for the instances were i'd need to burn something i'd just use some el-cheapo usb thingy
 
Hi, I just joined...

So, while this thing plays out and we see if it goes up today or not, could one of you guys who understands the details of the hardware perhaps explain how significant the improvements are?

For instance, the clock speed on the 2,16 has gone up and the one on the cheap one hasn't, so does that mean that the gap between the two of them has widened?

There is minimal difference anyway. I certainly wouldn't buy for the extra processing power, the superdrive yes, hard drive maybe. The processor is there to further difference in the eyes of the customer rather than giving you a real benefit under regular use.

And 4 GB of RAM, will that show significant improvement? Etc.

If how you use the system will benefit from more memory then yes. Probably best to try 2GB first and resell and buy else where if that isn't enough.

And the graphic cards? What would be the before and after comparison?

It's better than the old one, but still it's a lowend solution, more for video than games. Though games were taken in to account when it was designed I believe.
 
It would be cheaper indeed to get your own RAM, add getting your own HDD to that as well.

I just realised how cheap the Macbooks in the US actually are; do you guys realise that the most basic Macbook you can buy in Ireland costs $1515?
 
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