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In recent years I’ve been holding on to devices until they become orphaned by OS updates (or close to that). I just replaced my first-generation iPad Pro with the big M2 Air (the battery is starting to die and I’ve been through four keyboards for the Pro). My Series 4 Watch is probably the next on the update list. I did replace my 15 inch MacBook Pro (yes, with Touch Bar) on a shorter time frame because of the crappy keyboard, which started to die. So now I have 14 inch M3 Pro there. I went from an iPhone 7+ to a 14 Pro a couple of years ago now. No hurry on replacing that.

Probably the next Apple purchase in this house will be replacing my wife’s iPhone 12 Mini….but there isn’t any nice small option there. She has an M2 MacBook Air and her iPad (not sure of what generation of which flavor it is) is still doing fine.

I kind of wish they’d get out of this annual OS update cycle as it seems things are always rushed and buggy. Release it when it’s ready…and please, I don’t give a flying bleep for more emojis!
 
Evolution then devolution of iMac "longevity:

* CRT: PITA to get into, but a screen so thick you'd have to smackit with a golf-club to nick it.
* dome, G4: Required Torx and Phillips screwdrivers, but far simpler to srvice than CRTs. "Soft" LCD screen could weather light impacts, or dimple or gouge rather than shatter.
* white, G5: loosen (not remove) some Phillips screws, and the entire screen assembly opens as a lid to reveal the motherboard and other components. Ram and drives (and capacitors) all easily replaceable. These were were some of the easiest machines to service since the "beige" tower era, and used full-sized ram sticks.
* white, core duo: a more complicated procedure to get the outer screen off; flimsy plastic ram-extractor levers easy to break, then more screws and some shroud peeling to get the inner screen off. Flimsy ribbon cables to the camera. (iMacs from this point forward use short-stick ram.) The 24" model of this era had the best-sounding stereo speakers ever put in an Apple device.
* blackbacks: the first iMac with outer glass, but it was protected by the aluminum case in which it was inset. Teardown procedure similar to previous model, with added step of needing a suction-cup to pull the glass off.
* silverbacks: The outer glass now goes to the edge of the device (without that resulting in a larger viewing field) for no legitimate reason whatsoever, and the glass was slightly thinner. Several flimsy cables inside were easy to strip, and one notorious 27" version had a monitor socket prone to tearing right off the motherboard if a cockroach farted in the general vicinity. However, everything was still repairable, and all models of both screen-sizes from 2009 to 2011 boasted a very generous four ram slots capable of 32gb of DDR3 (an absurd amount of expansion potential given that the date-of-manufacture OSes ran comfortably in 2gb).
* thinsides (2012-2020): outer glass is even thinner, and glued to the underlying screen-assembly (a "heat-table" is required to separate the two; hair-dryer tricks usually result in a shattered screen); alternatively your friendly neighborhood Apple tech will quote you a whole screen-assembly unit that exceeds the resale value of the machine (and they'll charge you labor to put it in). Getting the screen assembly off requires cutting a felt liner and cleaning off lingering glue. (This marks the first machine by Apple in which a part must be destroyed in order to service it). Ram was allegedly soldered-in on 21.5" models; this claim is untrue, but upgrading requires completely disassembling the entire layer-cake, as the ram is on the backside of the motherboard! (The ram in 27" models was far easier to exchange via an external door.)
* silicon: these iMacs are essentially keyboardless MBA guts mounted vertically on a stand behind a monitor. Drives are soldered in, few if any parts are serviceable by independent techs (to whom Apple now withholds parts), and the models are planned-obsolescence as they'll auto-brick upon drive-failure). Imacs also now require an external power-supply (like a laptop) instead of any old generic black three-prong power cable if necessary to replace the original as in days past. (I can see Apple's ScrewCustomer Dept, irritated by a used market full of intel-era product only needing a $5 wired key/mouse/cable set to be up and running, sat in a huddle brainstorming, "Let's make the power-supply proprietary, and to add insult, we'll put the WiFi in the brick so that nobody will be able to use these iMacs after the corporate offices writing them down after three years send everything to the recyclers in different boxes like they do with macbook chargers, and the power-supplies get lost!")
 
I kind of wish they’d get out of this annual OS update cycle as it seems things are always rushed and buggy. Release it when it’s ready…and please, I don’t give a flying bleep for more emojis!

So do I. But for them to get out of the annual OS update cycle they need to get completely out of the annual hardware update cycle first (they already did with iPads and macs, but not with iphone and apple watch), and that’s the hard part because more than 50% of apple’s revenue is iphone sales and the shareholders would be furious if there were a full year without any new iphones and watches.
 
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So do I. But for them to get out of the annual OS update cycle they need to get completely out of the annual hardware update cycle first (they already did with iPads and macs, but not with iphone and apple watch), and that’s the hard part because more than 50% of apple’s revenue is iphone sales and the shareholders would be furious if there were a full year without any new iphones and watches.

Apple need to bring back the tick-tock cycle.
Focus on hardware changes every alternate year, with a minor revision (aka; the s year) to hardware in between; whilst focusing more on software optimisation and improvements during that s year.

Last time we had an s year was 5 years ago? when the XS launched. Since then it's been mediocre hardware revisions AND software revisions each year. We're basically on our 5th tick cycle.
 
Also, Macs are such great computers that can continue performing good for many years, unlike PCs.
I used to replace my PCs every two years because these would become painfully slow.
You get what you paid for, and pre-builts come in all sorts of builds. I built my PC and expect it to last me 7-10 years if not longer
 
Apple need to bring back the tick-tock cycle.
Focus on hardware changes every alternate year, with a minor revision (aka; the s year) to hardware in between; whilst focusing more on software optimisation and improvements during that s year.

Last time we had an s year was 5 years ago? when the XS launched. Since then it's been mediocre hardware revisions AND software revisions each year. We're basically on our 5th tick cycle.

That’s almost 6 years. The iphone XS came out in 2018.
 
Apple need to bring back the tick-tock cycle.
Focus on hardware changes every alternate year,

Not likely to happen for the foreseeable future as we are in the new era of AI hardware. It is going to be years before things settle down enough for that to occur.
 
Apple need to bring back the tick-tock cycle.
Focus on hardware changes every alternate year, with a minor revision (aka; the s year) to hardware in between; whilst focusing more on software optimisation and improvements during that s year.

Last time we had an s year was 5 years ago? when the XS launched. Since then it's been mediocre hardware revisions AND software revisions each year. We're basically on our 5th tick cycle.
It feels like Apple is on a 3-year cycle now. iPhone 12, 13 and 14 pretty much share the same design, and I guess the iPhone 15, 16 and 17 will do the same as well? Only the naming convention has changed, but it’s not hard to look beyond that and spot the trend.
 
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I absolutely love "New!", and it has been a real stretch, what with all the upgraded tech.

Last year I upgraded to a '23 Studio Mac for Desktop service (supersedes my 2012 Mac Pro), and an iPhone 13-mini for Mobile (supersedes my 12-mini (which superseded my iP8 (obviously!))).

Each are Active Duty for the foreseeable futrue.

iPad's are hand-me-downs; aWatch has been an interesting cul-de-sac.

There is nothing additional that I absolutely/actively need.

urhm, is the AW2 truly undead?!?
Crazy gear :D I just cannot justify those expenses as I do not use them for work

About the Apple Watch 2, yeah! It’s a Frankenwatch! No longer water proof as the glass broke and the cover I bought for it as well, beside that, everything works 100% :)
 
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Crazy gear :D I just cannot justify those expenses as I do not use them for work

About the Apple Watch 2, yeah! It’s a Frankenwatch! No longer water proof as the glass broke and the cover I bought for it as well, beside that, everything works 100% :)
Sometimes is hard to say goodbye.. I understand... At least it's been lasting you a very long time. Have my Apple Watch 3 that runs very well, just that I can't use it for Apple Home. I mainly use it when my Ultra 2 is charging.
I also have a 4 but the back cover is cracked, and the battery lasts less than 4 hours. It's stainless steel and I really like it, but can't use it for more than a few hours.
 
Crazy gear :D I just cannot justify those expenses as I do not use them for work

Neither can I! Fortunately, I've not spent that much dosh (USD2K for the 5,1 and USD2.5K for the Studio) ;)

About the Apple Watch 2, yeah! It’s a Frankenwatch! No longer water proof as the glass broke and the cover I bought for it as well, beside that, everything works 100% :)

Amazing.

I literally batter my aW6 all-day-long, and it just won't break....
 
Neither can I! Fortunately, I've not spent that much dosh (USD2K for the 5,1 and USD2.5K for the Studio) ;)



Amazing.

I literally batter my aW6 all-day-long, and it just won't break....
I know me too, until it just fell and landed in the wrong angle ‪¯\_(ツ)_/¯‬
 
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I know me too, until it just fell and landed in the wrong angle ‪¯\_(ツ)_/¯‬

I've bashed ('it"; my aW6) across a thousand door-catches, scraped it across hundreds of brick/stone foundations, fifty mortar-encrusted wheel-barrows, and raked the steel sides of many a work-truck . . . but, I've never 'dropped' it 🤷‍♂️
 
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