Apple using old Toshiba SSDs on some MacBook Airs

Discussion in 'MacBook Air' started by aa521490, Jul 25, 2011.

  1. ZBoater macrumors G3

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    "The practical impact of the different drives may be negligible. Performance differences are most likely to appear in certain file transfers and operations where the extra speed would be noticeable. Apple might not introduce more noticeable improvements until it starts using next-wave SSDs, many of which can currently hit 500MB per second and up."
     
  2. scarred macrumors 6502a

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    Apparently this isn't something to worry about. See this Forum Post
     
  3. technopimp macrumors 6502a

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    Just because one person says he doesn't notice a difference and/or that it doesn't bother him doesn't mean others feel the same way.
     
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    wait then won't that mean all the new batches being shipped out of china will most likely have the newer Samsungs then? :D After all it would make sense for them to get all the old toshibas out of the way then start using samsungs.
     
  6. ZBoater macrumors G3

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  7. Obscurelight macrumors 6502

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    still I would still feel better I'm getting the better one even if it's only slightly for the same price :eek:
     
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    I have been wondering the same question. Will the later ones have the Samsung SSDs?
    I just ordered mine from the Apple online store.
     
  10. class77 macrumors 6502a

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    According to tldtoday, read speeds in the two chips differ about 100 megs in read and about 60 megs in write. If those numbers are to be believed, that's almost 1/3 difference in read and 1/4 difference in write speeds. That would seem like a pretty big difference to me, but perhaps I'm missing something.

    Check the video
     
  11. hcho3 macrumors 68030

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    Well sweet Jesus... So, what do you expect? Stupid samsung cannot make enough SSD, so Apple had to order some from Toshiba.
     
  12. rkahl macrumors 65816

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    If I get a late technology ssd, I might not take it back, but I will ask for a discount on my order.
     
  13. JSalig macrumors 6502

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    Discount? I really do hope you're joking. If not...wow.
     
  14. Typswif2fingers macrumors 6502

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    Ultimately what can one do?

    I have an i7 with a Toshiba SSD. If I go back to the store and request the Samsung SSD, what exactly is the store manager supposed to do? Open all i7 MBAs he/she's got start them up and see if they have an SM SSD. And if he/she doesn't find any Samsung ones, order for all those in the storage to be open and checked in the same way?...


    This is not a smart ass question..

    I am just wondering about practical ways to solve the issue... if really there is one...

    To be honest, I can't say that I wish to settle for the second best, for the same money :)

    But, what is one to do?
     
  15. rkahl macrumors 65816

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    Honestly, if the difference is actually 25% on the ssd's. I would have no problem for asking $100 back. That's about what I paid for getting the 1.8 over the 1.7. If i'm not getting all my money's worth I want something back.
     
  16. enigma2k macrumors regular

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    how can you tell if it is an old toshiba ssd?
     
  17. runtohell121 macrumors 6502

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    System Report. TS = Toshiba SM = Samsung
     
  18. Typswif2fingers macrumors 6502

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    I understand that.. but, let us for argument sake say that I don't want the money, rather I want the Samsung SSD because I am a power user and I think that it is unfair that some people can do more for the same money with same type of machine due to a faster SSD etc.

    The issue still remains..

    What I was wondering is what the practical solutions would be to get an MBA with a Samsung SSD...

    Again, I am not arguing, nor am I being a smart ass... I am just exploring this...

    Any ideas?
     
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  20. marrzie macrumors regular

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    Keeping returning until you get lucky I guess.
     
  21. barefeats, Jul 26, 2011
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    barefeats macrumors 65816

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    Samsung much faster than Toshiba flash storage

    Here's some interesting results from the QuickBench Custom Sequential Test (1G test size):

    2010 MacBook Air with 256G Toshiba flash storage:
    212MB/s READ, 187MB/s WRITE (average of 5 cycles)

    2011 MacBook Air with 256G Samsung flash storage:
    271MB/s READ, 252MB/s WRITE (average of 5 cycles)

    If any of you have the 2011 MacBook Air with the 128G or 256G Toshiba, contact me so I can provide what you need to test your flash storage to see if it's any different from the 2010 MacBook Air numbers we got.
     
  22. Philflow macrumors 65816

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    Could you do some real world tests? Booting, copying, launching large applications?

    As you probably know sequential speeds are not that relevant for daily usage.
     
  23. ubercool macrumors 6502a

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    Hi Phil, goede dag! Great to see you still posting here! :)
     
  24. DarwinOSX macrumors 65816

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    Its annoying but the difference is negligible.
     

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