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Apple Vision Pro Can Now Be Controlled With Brain-Computer Interface

It is crazy how fast tech moves. This could have been something you'd read on the onion a couple of years ago. Even reading it now you have to wonder if it's a prank of some sort. Obviously it is going to happen and be mass deployed one day. Just didnt think I'd be around for the start of it. Of course it could go the way of the flying cars and jet packs. 🤷‍♂️
 
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Blackstick said:
The future of AVP is being a sub $2000 device that does for AR/VR what the iPod and iPhone did for their respective segments, it's not there yet. Just waiting for its iPhone 4 - iPad 2 - MacBook Air (2010) moment.

This is a fantastic achievement, but absolutely a niche. Now... blood glucose monitoring on the watch some day, is another story.
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A sub-$2000 version of this is going to give up the core fundamental of the first word in the name: "Vision." Goodbye 4K-per-eye. The ones down in that price area, offered by companies that don't demand Apple's super fat margins and thus- conceptually- have more of the price in the product instead of the margin, sell 1080p-per-eye.

I see no way there from Apple without dumping 4K-per-eye... which then will lead to nicknames like Blurred Vision Pro (the biggest complaint about those cheaper ones is "blurry"). Maybe cut it to a single eye device so we can look like Locutus of Borg with the Vision Pro Monocle?

I fully appreciate the great desire for a lower price. But this is Apple. Apple demands their fat margin. I can't think of ANY Apple offering that was discounted well over 43% without financing tricks only making it SEEM like it was cheaper. Somebody will sling first iPhone but those later iPhones were "on contracts" (thus financing) with other entities paying Apple in full and then recouping the fee- and then some- in a fat contract monthly rate. If we are willing to play the financing game, Apple should roll out 34-60 month financing and sell the device for FREE* on day of pickup.

Do we want Blurry Vision Junior for $2K? If me and I want sub-$2K, I think I'd rather have Vision Pro Monocle with 4K for one eye: "I am Locutus of Borg" ;)
 
LowKeyed said:
It is crazy how fast tech moves. This could have been something you'd read on the onion a couple of years ago. Even reading it now you have to wonder if it's a prank of some sort. Obviously it is going to happen and be mass deployed one day. Just didnt think I'd be around for the start of it. Of course it could go the way of the flying cars and jet packs. 🤷‍♂️
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In about 2010 or so, there was a hot Christmas game that came out which basically involved floating a foam ball through a slowly rotating 3D maze using only mind power to speed up or slow down fans that "levitated" the ball. It actually worked and was in short supply for that holiday season. I forget the name of it but I presume this probably leans on a bit of that evolved by 15 more years or so.

Edit: found a commercial for that old game called MindFlex...

 
HobeSoundDarryl said:
In about 2010 or so, there was a hot Christmas game that came out which basically involved floating a foam ball through a slowly rotating 3D maze using only mind power to speed up or slow down fans that "levitated" the ball. It actually worked and was in short supply for that holiday season. I forget the name of it but I presume this probably leans on a bit of that evolved by 15 more years or so.

Edit: found a commercial for that old game called MindFlex...

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I’m not entirely convinced that the guy is right when he says, ‘It’s the future of games.’ But that’s mind-blowing! There will always be people using their hands to do things, just because it’s so easy. But I can totally see this kind of tech being used in many different ways, especially when someone needs to use both hands.

Thanks for sharing that! I guess I totally missed it when it came out.
 
axantas said:
No, it is not dystropian at all. It is also not just good for people who benefit from it.

It simply just opens the world for people, who are not able to interact in another way with the world.
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I understand all of that. What I meant was for people who have no other way to interact with the rest of the world, this is good. But I'm just afraid this will be marketed towards perfectly healthy people and everyone will want brain surgery to become Iron Man. Exaggeration, but you get my point.
 
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I understand all of that. What I meant was for people who have no other way to interact with the rest of the world, this is good. But I'm just afraid this will be marketed towards perfectly healthy people and everyone will want brain surgery to become Iron Man. Exaggeration, but you get my point.
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As long as you do not have to - i am fine with it for everyone, who wants to enhance himself. There are already people with implanted chips or tattoed barcodes.

Just thinking about the endless positive opportunities for impaired people.
...look at it and blink twice with your eyes and it runs.
 
[Elon Musk, spitting into his RedMagic Pro from the roof of his AirStream]: Hello, is this NeuralLink? Get Jared on the phone. I need to see a disabled guy driving a Cybertrukk before the week is out or he's toast!
 
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Not really in love with the idea of any corporation having direct access to my brain. Didn't work out so well for Frances Farmer or Rosemarie Kennedy, did it?
 
dannyyankou said:
This is so dystopian

But good for people who benefit from it!
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Nah, dystopian in this space is nueralink with deep brain implants that are being tested recklessly, this is not particularly invasive tech that doesnt have dangerous interfacing with the brain and is being used in enriching ways cautiously. This is more star trek than battlestar
 
This is an amazing glimpse into the future. Using the Vision Pro already feels somewhat telepathic. Apple just needs to make a newer version that doesn't hurt my face after 30 minutes! 😂

I'm hoping brain-computer interfaces will improve to the point where we can just wear a fancy hat, rather than have an invasive procedure. Otherwise I'll need to wait a long time for the invasive procedure to get safer and longer-lasting. I'm certain this will happen in my lifetime, but I'm impatient!

Imagine being able to literally mind-meld with AI. I'd love to experience the joys of being human combined with the intelligence of a supercomputer.

The world is full of unimaginative Luddites. Most people have no idea how wild the future is going to be!
 
It's impressive that they're able to do this and really make the technology more accessible... but outside of that, it still feels a bit creepy to me but time has a way of normalising things.
 
Good to know. Will be interesting to see how Vision Pro develops in the future.
 
Blackstick said:
The future of AVP is being a sub $2000 device that does for AR/VR what the iPod and iPhone did for their respective segments, it's not there yet. Just waiting for its iPhone 4 - iPad 2 - MacBook Air (2010) moment.

This is a fantastic achievement, but absolutely a niche. Now... blood glucose monitoring on the watch some day, is another story.
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…It’s not at the consumer tier of a iPhone 4, iPad 2, or Macbook Air.

It’s a prosumer device. Wait for a non-prosumer spatial computing hardware variant/line-up from Apple (which will probably be AR glasses).

Many manufacturers like Nvidia release hardware in such a way for prohibitively expensive device categories (prosumer first).

The Vision Pro is a tier of device aligned with the iPad Pro, Mac Pro, Mac Studio, and Pro Display XDR with its positioning—it has an unapologetically similar role as the latter in particular with its supply-chain impact.
 
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