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Apple Vision Pro left red marks on forehead of WSJ reviewer

Kierkegaarden said:
Yes, that’s what I remember when I saw the original video. What the OP posted was not only a complete lie, but a horrible photo edit.

The slight redness could have been caused by a number of different things — tightness to face, skin sensitivity, products on skin (makeup, moisturizer), sensitivity to material.
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I didn't publish that photo. The Wall Street Journal did. I just posted it with the article. Also, I did not edit the photo, it is the original photo from the article. If you actually watch the video, you will see the red marks were enhanced in the video.😉
 
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bondr006 said:
I didn't publish that photo. The Wall Street Journal did. I just posted it with the article. Also, I did not edit the photo, it is the original photo from the article. If you actually watch the video, you will see the red marks were enhanced in the video.😉
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The video showed the original image which I posted and then faded to the modified version under dramatic music for what could be humorous intent. So they at least gave the modified image in context with the original. The image you show isn't "original".

You didn't link to the WSJ article so I can't know what they published but, if the only showed the photoshopped image then shame on them and anyone else presenting only the altered image without context. I expect journalists to have higher standards than that.
 
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Analog Kid said:
The video showed the original image which I posted and then faded to the modified version under dramatic music for what could be humorous intent. So they at least gave the modified image in context with the original. The image you show isn't "original".

You didn't link to the WSJ article so I can't know what they published but, if the only showed the photoshopped image then shame on them and anyone else presenting only the altered image without context. I expect journalists to have higher standards than that.
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Yeah, well here's timestamp 1:47 from the original video. WSJ video, not mine.

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bondr006 said:
Yeah, well here's timestamp 1:47 from the original video. WSJ video, not mine.
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Again selectively edited, showing only the photoshopped version without context. Which is fine if that's what you're after, but it's not the basis for a serious conversation.

The original unedited image, WSJ video, also with time stamp:

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Wow. If reviewers/news outlets must go through such lengths to find invent something to criticize on the Vision Pro, Kudos to Apple, it must be a well-engineered product.
 
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bondr006 said:

The Apple Vision Pro has a comfort problem, according to early testers​


Apple’s Vision Pro headset is making it into the hands of more testers following its announcement, but according to reports early reactions are underwhelming, with some users reporting that it's not comfortable to wear for long periods.

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It sounds like the overhead strap will alleviate this, nobody has been able to try one with that on yet and we’re only getting rehashed reports that currently (without strap) it gets heavy after extended use.
 
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NT1440 said:
It sounds like the overhead strap will alleviate this, nobody has been able to try one with that on yet and we’re only getting rehashed reports that currently (without strap) it gets heavy after extended use.
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Actually, the people at the demo said that they were recommended to use the head strap - it was there.
 
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bkkcanuck8 said:
Actually, the people at the demo said that they were recommended to use the head strap - it was there.
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Not the way I read it (from memory so I could be wrong). I thought I saw numerous references to the head strap still being considered and *mentioned* to reviewers.

I’m at work otherwise I’d do some digging to see if my memory was incorrect.

Edit: Nope, I misunderstood, too strap was definitely there.
 
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CodeSpyder said:
Perhaps it was on too tight.
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When the infamous VR face happens, it's because the wearer had the headset on too tight from the back. This is an issue not exclusive to the Vision Pro, and one of the reasons the headset now has an optional top strap.

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This is probably one of the other reasons why Apple's now doing fitting sessions for the Vision Pro at the Apple Store, similarly to the Apple Watch. Which btw, the Apple Watch also causes imprints if you have it on too tight.

If there's one suggestion I do have, maybe Apple should consider doing a silicone light guard just like the Quest headsets do. Currently it's fabric and fabric causes skin irritation, while silicone doesn't.
 
NT1440 said:
Not the way I read it (from memory so I could be wrong). I thought I saw numerous references to the head strap still being considered and *mentioned* to reviewers.

I’m at work otherwise I’d do some digging to see if my memory was incorrect.

Edit: Nope, I misunderstood, too strap was definitely there.
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MacBreak Weekly - Strap discussion

They are considering if it is to be included in the box or sold separately, but the strap was at the demo and they considered it necessary there...
 
bkkcanuck8 said:
MacBreak Weekly - Strap discussion

They are considering if it is to be included in the box or sold separately, but the strap was at the demo and they considered it necessary there...
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It should be included in the box since it's clear the majority of people are gonna need it. If your $3500 headset requires a separate purchase to be even usable, that's a failure in the product.

Plus, Meta tried this already. When the Quest 2 originally launched it didn't have a silicone cover or a glasses spacer, both those were separate purchases. The silicone cover was absolutely necessary for EVERY headset as sweat collected on the fabric and skin irritation was a common occurrence, so the silicone cover was shipped for free to existing owners after complaints, and the glasses spacer was also shipped for free as well for anyone who needed it, since turns out a lot of people wear glasses and need that spacer to use the headset. Now both are bundled with every headset. Even refurbished units come with them.
 
Before I say anything I will admit, I love Metal, Glass etc.
Saying that I am fine with Plastics as Plastic covers a GIANT range of materials, both high and low quality.
And sometimes, the added weight of metal and glass does add to the illusion of quality, even if there is no rational reason to us humans feeling this way.

All that said, for something which is going to be fixed to the front of my face. My No.1 wish would for it to be a lightweight as possible, made with the lightest possible materials available.
Just like with sports cars, every single component is designed to save every fraction of a gram to reduce the overall weight.
I would be more than happy for Apple to, in the future explain how they are using modern/synthetic materials to reduce their headset's weight.
There is a time and place for Weight=Quality.
But when it comes to something fitted to the front of your face via an elastic strap to keep it in place. This type of device is NOT the place for it.
 
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My bike helmet leave a red spot on my forehead.
My glasses leave spots on my nose.
My watch can leave a ring or red spot on my arm.
My tight pants leave red around my waist.

It’s almost like anything designed to worn snug creates marks on skin.
Can’t wait for the Nobel prize on this.
 
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