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That's how I understand it, as well. But just because Apple sells a watch in the thousands of dollars doesn't mean that you are getting any less of an experience if you opt for a $1000 stainless steel watch or $350 Sport. Regular watches sell in a wide range of prices.

And from what we know, the internals are the same whether you're buying the aluminum watch or the gold one. Basically you're paying more based on materials not specs/functionality.
 
Why do you find it hard to believe that 8.0.1 was fine, and it was the over-the-air update or update scripts that caused the issue? In fact this can easily be verified by looking at the 8.0.1 as distributed via iTunes or the developer portal. Either way, it was Apple's fault, so nobody is passing the blame here, they are just giving us more details about what went wrong, which is awesome if you ask me, because normally they are much less transparent.
 
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The OS 8.0.1 update didn't work right when distributed over the air.
It was the air's fault!
 
isn't distribution of software a part of programming?

Unless Apple decided to physically distribute them. I see it nothing more than "It's not my department's fault" excuse
 
It means the high-end watch will indeed cost thousands of dollars. At least that's what I got from it.

That's what i took from it also.



Yeah I know! The Charge is just like the Force that I had. It sucks it won't interact with Apple's health App though.. But Fitbit is by far my favorite fitness tracker. I just don't want to purchase another one if i'm going to be using the Apple watch.
 
Uh-oh... you know what that means.

It means that you will be able to accessorize it to your liking. Gold plated watch, solid gold wrist band, etc. This will make the watch attractive to a much wider audience.

I have a neighbor that wears a $50,000 watch. It displays the same time that my $80 Timex provides. Different strokes for different folks.
 
Fitbit is by far my favorite fitness tracker. I just don't want to purchase another one if i'm going to be using the Apple watch.

I must be missing something here. I bought a Fitbit. It appears that its nothing more than an expensive pedometer and sleep monitor. Charging is a real pain in the a$$, and fastening the band totally $ucks.
 
"You're distributing it wrong..." ;)
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isn't distribution of software a part of programming?

Unless Apple decided to physically distribute them. I see it nothing more than "It's not my department's fault" excuse

This is the Marketing guy, so he would not have any stake in a blame game. So your comment makes no sense.

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Ok let me be the first to say. BULLSH....you know the rest

Why don't you just put that in your signature, and save yourself a lot of trouble?
 
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Apple never did talk about the streaming problem during the September keynote. I want to hear about that one.

Why? Because you're curious or because you think Apple owes the public an explanation? Apple streaming their events is a nice to have and nothing more.
 
I like how people always find a reason to point the finger at others when a mistake happens.... not saying that this is the Apple VP's fault, but in general.

OK, but what I hate is people who are quick to make moral pronouncements, even when they are irrelevant. And I'm saying this in general, and in this specific case.
 
The guy was probably in charge of it. He saw what happened to Forstall when he refused to apologize. Smart move by the dude. lol.
 
"It wasn't the software itself, it was the way it was distributed, said Joswiak. "We're very sorry."

This sets off so many red flags...

Apple need someone to enforce accountability. As much as I admire Cook, I'm not convinced he can do it.
 
"There wasn't a problem with the software, it's just that the software was wrong."

If a contractor gave that excuse, you'd sack them on the spot, but Apple apologists will be tripping all over themselves to say how it's not Apple's fault, even though they're responsible for every step. I'm surprised Apple didn't blame their users, they do usually.

You can't make this stuff up.

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This sets off so many red flags...

Apple need someone to enforce accountability. As much as I admire Cook, I'm not convinced he can do it.

Who needs accountability when you have legions of pliable and obedient customers?
 
This sets off so many red flags...

Apple need someone to enforce accountability. As much as I admire Cook, I'm not convinced he can do it.

What are you talking about? Joswiak apologize for it. What he said seems to be factually correct as those who updated via iTunes didn't have the problems those who updated via OTA did. If it was a problem with the core software wouldn't everyone have had the same issues whether they updated via OTA or iTunes?
 
There is no pleasing some people

I downloaded 8.0.1 through iTunes and it worked perfectly. I don't think Greg Joswiak was trying to pass the buck, he explained what happened and apologized. What more do you want him to do? Maybe he should give everyone who had a problem a solid gold :apple:Watch. Wanna bet someone would find fault with that?
 
What are you talking about? Joswiak apologize for it. What he said seems to be factually correct as those who updated via iTunes didn't have the problems those who updated via OTA did. If it was a problem with the core software wouldn't everyone have had the same issues whether they updated via OTA or iTunes?

"You're downloading it wrong."
 
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