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DJ Novotney, one of Apple's top hardware engineering architects, is leaving Apple for Rivian Automotive, Bloomberg reported over the weekend.

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Novotney has worked at Apple for 25 years and been highly influential in the development of the iPod and iPhone over multiple generations of the hardware. He also helped lead development of the iPad and bring the Apple Watch to market, according to the report's sources at Apple.

Novotney was also involved in "Project Titan," the company's stalled attempt to develop an autonomous electric vehicle. Most recently he was the senior executive in charge of developing future home devices, with a special focus on robotics and AI. Apple is said to have explored a future high-end HomePod speaker that could include an iPad connected via a robotic arm that tracks and follows users around a room.

Novotney will become senior VP of vehicle programs at Rivian, which makes electric SUVs and pickup trucks. The executive informed colleagues of his exit on Friday, according to the report.
Several senior Apple executives are leaving or have left the company in recent years. Notable figures among them include Tang Tan, Apple's VP of product design for the iPhone and Apple Watch, who is joining Jony Ive's LoveFrom design firm next month, and hardware technologies leader Steve Hotelling, who left Apple last year.

Article Link: Apple VP of Hardware Engineering Leaving Company After 25 Years
I am a former Apple employee and contractor that worked for Apple starting in the early 80's for 13 years with a employee number under 5000. In those days Working for Apple was like winning the lottery as it was one of the most desirable companies to work for. Salaries were great, but not excessive and benefits were outstanding. For the most part, with a few exceptions, employees were valued and well-treated. Now it no longer seems to have a distinction of being a a desirable company to work for.

Since Tim Cook took charge that has all changed. From what I have heard and read; employees are now treated like cannon fodder. The majority of the benefits have all but disappeared. So has much of the innovation. The majority of products released under the management of Tim Cook were first conceived when Steve Jobs was in charge. Most of the 'innovation' seems to be minor tweaks and enhancements of existing products or products in the conceptual stage years ago.

From my perspective Apple has shifted its paradigm from being a customer focused company to a maximum profit centered company. For instance, Steve Jobs salary of $1 a year with some Apple stock options has morphed into Tim Cooks salary according to Alexa is $49 million a year. According to BARD: " Since 2017, Apple's board has mandated that CEO Tim Cook use only private jets for all business and personal air travel due to security concerns. While Apple doesn't directly own the jets used by Cook, they cover the expenses associated with these flights, which in 2022 amounted to over $767,000."

Additionally, Apple has limited escalation of AppleCare support to Apple Senior Support Advisors for difficult issues. Historically it could be escalated to an executive office team when Support was unable to resolve the issue. Just recently they also closed the company store. This to me reflects additional customer isolation from the company.

Rumor has it, and I do not have any concrete evidence of this; that Apple for many years has run Silcon Valley programming 'sweatshops', hiring H1B programmers from 3rd world countries and working them in unlabeled, almost windowless office buildings around Silicon Valley where they are monitored constantly for productivity, with carefully measured breaks and lunchtimes that barely meet government requirements and paid the minimum salary that Apple can get away with. I have also heard through the rumor mill that if they protest or complain within or outside of Apple, retaliation occurs with them being laid off thus under H1B regulations they are sent back to the countries from which they came. As I stated at the beginning, this is all rumor generated from comments or alluding to from other former employees, newspaper articles and other individuals. While I have no evidence that this is actually true, I would not be surprised if it was.

So, from my perspective there are really two Apples; the one under the leadership of Steve Jobs that was forces on the customer experience; and the current one under the 'leadership' of Tim Cook that only seems focused on profits at any cost. In my opinion, the current Apple is rotten at its core.

Historically I used to take pride in the fact that I used to work for Apple. Now sometimes I am ashamed to admit it.

So, given the changes, I can fully understand and appreciate why executives with values are leaving the company in droves. If I was still working for them, it is something I would consider doing as well.

Given their current behavior, and being fully retired, if for some reason I was offered a temporary testing contractor position for Apple, which was one of the positions I formally held, I would refuse it, as Apple is now a company that I would NOT want to work for any amount of money, though I would really enjoy doing the work, even as an unpaid volunteer.
 
Holy Smokes!!!

You mean an executive at a large Silicon Valley tech company actually went to another tech company?

Stop the presses, that's never happened before. Planet Earth just instantaneously tilted an extra 10 degrees in disapproval.

Tsunamis are soon to follow.
 
However people also leave when they feel the company is stagnating and not offering them opportunities to grow.

So… which is it with Apple lately?

Apple recently has recently released the best mobile processors in the industry, they're dominating mobile performance, the ipad is the only tablet that matters.

I'd say they're doing pretty much OK. And the output of the company is dependent on its employees.

Ask the same questions of:
Intel
Microsoft
IBM
Nvidia
AMD
Samsung

What have they done that is revolutionary lately?

Why is it that only Apple is held to some ridiculous standard for innovation?
 
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Makes sense. In recent years, Apple has focused more on social policies than hardware innovation. I feel the times when we call waited eagerly for the Macword to have long passed. Even the car has not even come to light for 10 years. Now, we have services and general product innovation cycles. With Rivian, he can do more with less for customers.
 
Apple recently has recently released the best mobile processors in the industry, they're dominating mobile performance, the ipad is the only tablet that matters.

I'd say they're doing pretty much OK. And the output of the company is dependent on its employees.

Ask the same questions of:
Intel
Microsoft
IBM
Nvidia
AMD
Samsung

What have they done that is revolutionary lately?

Why is it that only Apple is held to some ridiculous standard for innovation?
Because we're (checks url) on MacRumours and we are discussing an Apple exec leaving Apple… and that does not imply I am holding solely Apple to some ridiculous standard for innovation.

Why do you think I should be talking about
Intel
Microsoft
IBM
Nvidia
AMD
Samsung
?
🤷🏻‍♂️

Seriously. Not an attack, just perplexed about why you suggest I should be talking about other corporations.
 
Seriously. Not an attack, just perplexed about why you suggest I should be talking about other corporations.

I guess i've just seen far too many of the type of comment where people (not specifically you) constantly ask what Apple has or is doing lately of note, and compared to the rest of the industry they're really one of the only actual innovators.

Like i said, what have those other companies of similar size or customer base done?
 
What’s with the knee-jerk negative connotation whenever an exec leaves Apple? Try reading financial news sources sometimes to see this goes on all the time in every company. It’s not the “rats leaving the sinking ship” narrative espoused by so many on these forums. But then this is MacRumors after all. Need I say more?
 
What’s with the knee-jerk negative connotation whenever an exec leaves Apple? Try reading financial news sources sometimes to see this goes on all the time in every company. It’s not the “rats leaving the sinking ship” narrative espoused by so many on these forums. But then this is MacRumors after all. Need I say more?
It's not rats deserting a sinking ship, but it is many of the core people leaving since Ive left. Apple will be fine, but have lost some of their sparkle. iPhone innovation and pace of change could have been a bit faster over the last five years and Apple's stubborn culture which helped them in the past has hindered them a bit in this modern era. Apple should have switched the entire company to USB-C five years ago and should have opened up their systems a few years ago to get ahead of all of this EU stuff, including making iMessage a cross-platform app to compete more directly with the lines of WhatsApp and Revolut. Their product lineup has also become convoluted and needs to be streamlined across the board. Not for profit, but for product quality and company clarity, direction, focus and streamlining.
 
My inner teenager era geekiness wants this soo badly
Back in the late 80s I used to run DOS on a Compaq 'luggable' computer like this! Mine had a thick leather handle on it as it was pretty heavy! lol The 'luggable' name was very apt. There are probably loads banging about on eBay if you really, really want one! :)

Edit: That should have said late 80s!
 
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It begs the question of what's going on at Apple. A lot of executives have left the company over the past few years. The biggest shock to me was Johnny Ive, he was at Apple even when it was going down the pan after Steve Job was fired.
You've never worked in Silicon Valley, never mind at one company for 25 years. New interests and new opportunities for someone working that long in management means they want to get back to getting their input directly having an impact on future products, not just managing people who do that and have done that for well over a decade or more.

This level of management has a 100th floor level to those on the 10th and lower floors. They spend all their time in meetings, collaborating in supply chain concerns, material costs, etc. It's not engineering in the heat transfer, computational fluid dynamics, power requirements, heat dissipation, etc., hands on.

Working for Rivian Motors will give him a new shot in the arm.
 
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It begs the question of what's going on at Apple. A lot of executives have left the company over the past few years. The biggest shock to me was Johnny Ive, he was at Apple even when it was going down the pan after Steve Job was fired.
It does not "begs the question"

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Quite significative, wondering it has something to do with the delay of the Apple car project. I never understood why they want to enter that market. I will never ride a car by an IT Tech company. And I work in IT
 
Apple should just buy Rivian. I like the Rivian. Ads though not available in Australia. But small enough for Apple to buy. And with Apples manufacturing connections could get things done.
No! Rivian is in the toilet. EV’s are in the toilet as well. Unfortunately the media and everyone that was pushing for them are too invested to admit they were wrong. EV’s are fantastic vehicles for people that have no where to go and don’t rely on them to produce operating income (trucks, delivery vehicles, tractors, etc.).

Any investment in Rivian or any other EV company/product is economic suicide. The public is slowly starting to figure this out.
 
It begs the question of what's going on at Apple. A lot of executives have left the company over the past few years. The biggest shock to me was Johnny Ive, he was at Apple even when it was going down the pan after Steve Job was fired.
This kind of movement, especially at this stage of a career is quite common. There is "nothing going on." The labor marketer people of this level and accomplishment remains red hot.

Strange to interpret this as an indicator there is a siginificant problem. Apple, like most sizable companies, has succession plans in place for every key position.

Looking back to jobs got fired days, is an inapplicable comparison. Other than the name of the company, there is almost nothing in common with the current departures.
 
This kind of movement, especially at this stage of a career is quite common. There is "nothing going on." The labor marketer people of this level and accomplishment remains red hot.

Strange to interpret this as an indicator there is a siginificant problem. Apple, like most sizable companies, has succession plans in place for every key position.

Looking back to jobs got fired days, is an inapplicable comparison. Other than the name of the company, there is almost nothing in common with the current departures.

The fact that he was there for 25 years is not just a job. People who dedicate their working lives to these roles are known as “lifers” it’s a career. The only reason Johnny Ive left Apple was because of the way Tim Cook was running Apple. Ive often said that he “bled in 6 colours” he loved Apple.
 
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Rumor has it, and I do not have any concrete evidence of this; that Apple for many years has run Silcon Valley programming 'sweatshops', hiring H1B programmers from 3rd world countries and working them in unlabeled, almost windowless office buildings around Silicon Valley where they are monitored constantly for productivity, with carefully measured breaks and lunchtimes that barely meet government requirements and paid the minimum salary that Apple can get away with.
This would certainly put the software quality issues of recent years in a different perspective.
 
I would love an i-lamp throwback device like in that mock-up - though would prefer it to be an actual iMac and not a Siri device that will cause me to go bankrupt with the swear jar.
 
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