Apple Waiting for Improved Worker Conditions Before Expanding Production in Vietnam

[0924487]

I’m glad apple brought jobs to vietnam instead of china.

China is the master of the slaves there, don't you see? China owns the technology and the market, Apple owns the brand and the design, Viets own the blood and sweat.

Also, China can take control of Vietnam at moment's notice. Vietnam is Beijing-leaning recently.

 

[0924487]

most Westerners have no idea how good they have it.

and it's not sustainable, we know it.

Our good conditions are funded on their meagre income, blood and sweat. When the world wakes, all hell will break loose.

 

[bryanios]

Not at all similar. Auto workers don’t sit in one place all day, performing the same action over and over. And auto plants don’t employ hundreds of thousands of people to do so, like the iphone assembly plants do.

sir in my country we’d call your kind a choosing beggar. Have you seen unemployment rate in US lately?

 

[johnnytravels]

Tim Cook has been a master of supply chain management and is one to the key facilitators of Apple's recovery with the return of Steve Jobs in the late '90s. He did not achieve that by not understanding processes or being stupid. Obviously there are virtually no qualifications required to comment on his abilities. Woohoo, MacRumors rocks!

Please take my post with a grain of salt. The picture just looks exactly like the pictures taken of certain politicians not understanding what is going on.
Sorry for offending you!

 

[tonyko]

I personally don't satisfy with the quality of AirPods Pro assembled by Luxshare.

 

[damphoose]

You are incorrect about sitting in one place and doing the same action over and over. I have done consulting work at multiple vehicle MFG plants in multiple states and have seen it first hand. I have seen it in passenger vehicles, semi MFG, bus MFG, etc... A prime example is wiring harnesses, but there are many others if you move around the facilities.

Oh and while you make it sound horrendous, and I personally would never want to do it, a lot of workers have worked there for decades, some 30+ years. They could have easily transferred to a different department. Some do, some move around, some stay put. They also could have got different jobs in the 30 years they have been doing it. But unlike maybe you and me, some people just like that type of work. They like the structure and consistency.

I don't condone forced/slave labor and I am not going to get into the woes and politics of global manufacturing, I will just say your comments on sitting in one place and doing repetitive work is utterly incorrect and not just in vehicle manufacturing. I have seen it in medical equipment, binocular, knife, and tech component manufacturing. All US based and all essentially the same MFG line process as used to produce things overseas. Doesn't mean the pay or conditions are the same, but again avoiding that topic since it wasn't what I felt you needed correction/more information on.

It is night and day working on a wiring harness in an automobile compared to working limited space involved in phone assembly. Even In China not everyone can qualify because they need a certain dexterity and usually smaller hands. You ever wonder why it’s mostly women and why rumors of child labor persist. Now think back to what those auto workers you saw looked like.

 

[Arsenikdote]

It is night and day working on a wiring harness in an automobile compared to working limited space involved in phone assembly. Even In China not everyone can qualify because they need a certain dexterity and usually smaller hands. You ever wonder why it’s mostly women and why rumors of child labor persist. Now think back to what those auto workers you saw looked like.

Dissecting the details has no end. A generalized statement was made about automobile workers not sitting in one place doing the same work over and over again. I was pointing out it was incorrect. If the original statement was too generalized and needed to be more specific, then my clarification would not have been necessary. Also, as I mentioned I have seen work in multiple industries and many of them DO require fine dexterity more than a wiring harness. I don't want to digress into infinite comparisons about things that may or may not be similar. Maybe comparing vehicle MFG to phone MFG should not have been made to begin with, but it was the statement about US workers not performing monotonous tasks and sitting all day in one spot I was referring to.

It also seems like you and the previous poster are making a judgment call on it being "bad" work because of these factors. While I couldn't do it, I also couldn't spend 30+ years making wiring harnesses for vehicles. So my point is maybe we shouldn't decide for other people what is or isn't ok work. In fact I think another person commented on how privileged that actually is from a global perspective....

And finally, just like before, I don't think child, forced or slave labor is good. My comments are not touching that topic at all. My comments are about US workers and the fact they do repetitive tasks while sitting in one place.