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Apple Wanted to Use Qualcomm Chips for 2018 iPhones, But Qualcomm Wouldn't Sell Them
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Hard to do that without being in violation of a patent. I believe the "Apple" lawsuit in Germany was about Intel chips being in violation of a QCOM patent.
Increase the $7.50 fee to $15.50-17.50 (crappy wording)
Given the alleged hardball tactics employed by Qualcomm, it makes me question the legitimacy of many staunch Qualcomm>Intel posts in these forums the past couple of years.
It is not the chip that is in contention - it is the patent that is the basis of this lawsuit by the FTC. Or the unwillingness to share!
Wow, that sheds some more light on the situation. Qualcomm definitely looks ripe for some trust busting.
Having tried to understand and explain this math method to a grade schooler recently - this is hilarious. Thank you for the laugh.
Having tried to understand and explain this math method to a grade schooler recently - this is hilarious. Thank you for the laugh.
With FRAND, Apple, Intel Samsung, AMD or anybody else can make these modems.
Yes you can. My Xs, has frequent dropouts, lower signals and even "no service" while my old iPhone 8 has a 3 bars. And that's the highest end gigabit version with 2 additional antenna lines on the Xs, can imagine how bad it is with the Xr. Not even mention various issues with 5ghz wifi & slower speeds due to the lower signal. Intel modems are the trashiest of the trash in trashville and apple decided to use them for their $1000 phones. But hey who uses their phone to make phone calls like it's supposed to anymore amirite?
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Meh, just do a hostile take over of Qualcomm for 70 billion. Eat up all the patents, then sell it off to Samsung to resolve patent disputes and secure deals for long term OLED supplies.
This is about as right as it gets.
My issue with the whole thing is that, there should not be a licensing fee at all. Company A buys a part from Company B. Company A should be able to use the part however they see fit. And not be charged again based on the cost of Company A's total device.
If QCOM wants to make more money. Charge more for the modem. It's a LOT easier that way.
How does Qualcomm have a monopoly if Apple can buy modems from other companies like Intel?
How did Microsoft have a monopoly in the 90s if there were other operating systems?
Is any of this back-and-forth actually borne out by e-mails and documents that can be entered as exhibits, or is this all a bunch of 'he-said-she-said' 'phone calls?'
So Qualcomm wanted $30 per chip PLUS a percentage of the iPhone's cost? Then later they want to more than double that bonus fee? Seems like greed to me. If $30 isn't covering the cost of the chip, they should be increasing that cost to stay healthy.
I'm sure there was an article on here a couple of years ago where it was found that Apple were intentionally crippling the speeds the Qualcomm devices were getting to be the same as the Intel basebands. Intel could only hit max of 450Mbps whereas the Qualcomm chips were capable of 600Mbps. Qualcomm have always been faster than Intel modems, yet Apple would rather cut off their nose to spite their face.
They already dropped the price of the chip from the $30 price to $7.50, and Apple wanted to pay $1.5? I'd tell Apple to bolt as well!
They already dropped the price of the chip from the $30 price to $7.50, and Apple wanted to pay $1.5? I'd tell Apple to bolt as well!
Utter nonsense. I've not been able to tell one bit of difference. Current XR actually pulls in a very strong signal.
This was the main reason why I won't upgrade from my iPhone X because I don't want Intel's inferior chip. If the iPhone can't connect with a tower and there is no WIFI available, it becomes a quasi brick.
Which carrier gives your cellphone more than 450Mps?
You don't think that Apple and a dozen other chipmakers have not already reverse engineered a modem, any modem, from Qualcomm, and have the blue-print ready to go?
I have a Intel 8 plus.
Qualcomm SE.
Both on same networks.
Intel 8 plus performs better.
Qualcomm SE.
Both on same networks.
Intel 8 plus performs better.
This is just bad Karma on Apple's part. If Apple is going to eventually do everything in house and alienate all their partners, then it should be expected stuff like this is happening. What good does it do for Intel to sell Apple modems, when 3 years from now Apple is going to give them the boot and provide their own silicon?
I honestly think it's useless to try and explain this things on this forum at this point, it's all uniformed snarky comments. It's sad how low the internet has fallen in the last 10 years.
