Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
It's bad enough third-party keyboards get to see everything you type but giving those apps access to network services (intentionally or not) lets them share that data with others. Very smart of Apple to compartmentalize the two and require users to grant network access - unfortunate about the bug which breaks the logic but they found it quick enough. If anything it'll raise awareness of the security issue when you do explicitly grant network access to these keyboard apps.
Rational commentary with a fair critique and good perspective. What the heck are you doing here?

Aren't these supposed to be patched before the software gets released to the public?
Apple needs to be split up. They can’t get anything done remotely on time. Half of new iPhone’s features missing. iOS delayed (as is MacOS for years). Then .1 release. Oh sorry we forgot to add security patch. And and and

Too big to manage.

When small and nimble Apple was world class. now it’s just another IBM
Right. I’m so disappointed in Apple for not releasing flawless software like everyone else. And as all coders like yourselves know, all bugs get caught and fixed before public release. And as all tech enthusiasts know, Apple software never had bugs back in the day. Must be a sign of corporate deterioration.
 
Apple needs to be split up. They can’t get anything done remotely on time. Half of new iPhone’s features missing. iOS delayed (as is MacOS for years). Then .1 release. Oh sorry we forgot to add security patch. And and and

Too big to manage.

When small and nimble Apple was world class. now it’s just another IBM
You think smaller companies produce fewer bugs? I have a bridge to sell you.

The larger the company (or rather, the more prominent or ubiquitous their software), the greater the scrutiny. And also, all the more than independent and in-house scrutiny and testing software is exposed to.
 
Apple needs to be split up. They can’t get anything done remotely on time. Half of new iPhone’s features missing. iOS delayed (as is MacOS for years). Then .1 release. Oh sorry we forgot to add security patch. And and and

Too big to manage.

When small and nimble Apple was world class. now it’s just another IBM
Management without soul kills the soul of employees, kills the soul of their collective potential, eventually kills the soul of the product and makes evolutionary progress a drag. Instead of marketing an impressive product that speaks louder than its sales tags, the product needs to come to par with the impressions expressed in the marketing. We are in dire need of an era that really catches our attention in a way that tantalises, without that being the chaos that is the product of these bean counting times...
 
I fear that the built in Apple swipe isn't as good as the Google keyboard. I have a feeling I'll keep using it, but keep swapping to see if I can learn the Apple version.
 
People still have third party keyboards? I forgot that was even a thing years ago.
I've used GBoard for years because Apple refused to implement a swipe keyboard but to be honest I should've given up on it years ago too because Apple made a half cocked, buggy effort "supporting" third party keyboards.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Tagbert
Apples keyboard is so behind though. The 11pro and Max are big phones with good screen realestate but have no number rows. You have to swap screens back and forth for , and . The iPad keyboard is so superior why hasn't that been ported to iOS?
 
I'm not seeing it in iPadOS?

it works great on my iPhone.

am i missing a setting somewhere?

In iPadOS it only works in the small keyboard (two finger zoom out gesture on the keyboard to go from big to small, and then two finger zoom in gesture on the keyboard to go from small to big). It doesn't work in the full-sized keyboard. It works just like on iPhone on the small keyboard.
[automerge]1569368963[/automerge]
So the only way people get warned is an obscure support document? I guess bad actors getting “full access” to a keyboard (passwords, emails, private texts) isn’t worthy of a pop-up

**** off with the privacy ********, Apple
Third party keyboards are automatically disabled on password entry fields.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Wide opeN and Sikh
I mean, they've been doing 3rd pty keyboards since iOS 8 and still can't get it right. How hard is it??

Yah geez! Why can't they build a spaceship and send everyone to another planet?!? How hard is it??

I'm not seeing it in iPadOS?

it works great on my iPhone.

am i missing a setting somewhere?

Swipe-to-Type on iPadOS only works on the Floating (and possibly Split) keyboards. It doesn't seem to work on the standard full-size keyboard.

I had a heckuva time getting out of the Floating keyboard. There didn't seem to be an obvious way to restore the full keyboard. Then I tried a `pull-apart` gesture, and boom... it goes back to full size.
 
Whatever the reason for the strange beta and release schedule of 13.0 & 13.1 (maybe tariff related) it’s increasingly clear that Apple needs to stagger their feature releases through the first 3-6 months of the lifetime of each major release of iOS.

What they do now seems to be a relic from the Jobs way of doing things where a Big Bang release would get enough people downloading the latest version of iOS so that developers would then have a reason for supporting its new features etc etc. However iOS, iCloud (and the Mac) are way more complex now.

I’d rather have Apple pick one or two features to launch with and then roll out the other features gradually, giving Apple time to focus of hardening the layers below (that people don’t see) and overall software quality.

For example, dark mode alone would likely have been enough to launch with this time around plus a few other smaller user facing features (new share sheet etc).

Anything involving major plumbing could wait surely until the regular ‘new emoji release’ or the semi-traditional March point releases.
 
I'm not worried, I've used SwiftKey for years with full access. It's a Microsoft product, and I trust MS way more than some companies (e.g., Google) because they're not in the business of selling data.

(Plus, if you use Windows in any shape or form, that alone will track you way more than any keyboard, but I digress.)
 
I have to say the keyboard in iOS 13 is perfect. Im finally able to message in german and english WITHOUT having to enable both languages. In iOS 12 I always hsd to "jump" over another language to get to the emojis.
 
Wake me up when Apple manages to release a public iOS 13 version that doesn't have a known unpatched vulnerability right out of the gate. I wonder what qualifies as a release blocker nowadays.
 
I have been on SwiftKey for ages and I went back to the Apple keyboard for like 5 min then I switched back to SwiftKey. Switching languages in SwiftKey is a breeze IMO!!!
"English/Arabic"


Till iOS 13 I was still using SwiftKey and loved it. You guys might be native English speakers, but for many languages in the rest of the world the default Apple keyboard was/is almost useless. Till iOS 13 my language didn’t even have word prediction, let alone being able to talk in two languages without changing the keyboard (which is very common in my country). SwiftKey had all of that for years, so obviously many people use third party keyboards if Apple is too lazy or just doesn’t prioritise a simple keyboard update for other than the big languages.

But only now I can finally switch. Even though many other people probably still can’t or won’t.
 
  • Like
Reactions: arkitect
I always thought add-on keyboards were a bad idea on Android ripe for abuse (proven right over the years), and I have believed this to be an equally bad idea on iOS since the day it was introduced, and once again proven right.

The built-in iOS keyboard is second-to-none for accuracy and ease of use, why some one would want to infect their iOS device with a potentially keystroke-harvesting POS is beyond me.

SwiftKey is leagues better than the stock keyboard. Apple took over 5 years to implement swiping, and people still praise them when their implementation isn't half as good.

I love Apple products, but Microsoft is far ahead in AI. Let's be fair here.
 
I'm not seeing it in iPadOS?

it works great on my iPhone.

am i missing a setting somewhere?
It works on an iPad when you have the mini keyboard (Pinch the keyboard to shrink it from normal size). Haven’t really used it yet. Not sure it it’s any faster than standard typing.

Here’s my first sentence typed by swiping.

I think I’ll need to give it more time!
 
I fear that the built in Apple swipe isn't as good as the Google keyboard. I have a feeling I'll keep using it, but keep swapping to see if I can learn the Apple version.
In iPadOS it only works in the small keyboard (two finger zoom out gesture on the keyboard to go from big to small, and then two finger zoom in gesture on the keyboard to go from small to big). It doesn't work in the full-sized keyboard. It works just like on iPhone on the small keyboard.

I really like the new Apple slide keyboard. I was so disappointed when I realized how poorly it had been implemented on the iPad and that I'd still need GBoard. I wonder what their thought process was.
 
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.