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Yep, in spite of Apple marketing, Apple devices are only marginally better than Android with security.

At least with Android, anyone in the know can lock down their phone because they have access to the firewall and other security software. With Apple devices you don't have access or control. I hope you all know that Apple allows certain types of connections, which are undocumented, to bypass the iPhone firewall.

Sure mom and pop off the street are likely to get hosed with Android, but once you realize that Apple has to provide backdoors that governments demand or lose sales then it all becomes clear what a farce Apple's security really is.
It's hilarious how many downvotes you are getting from people, they have no idea. The worst are cheap Android tracphones that have so much spyware / data collection it should be illegal to sell them, but properly updated with a clean OS you're exactly right, and Android phones are absolutely more secure than almost anything if you install LineageOS.

Also the firewall / VPN stuff is 100% true and if you pay attention to logs you'll find iOS likes to disconnect VPNs for no discernible reason and will route some traffic around them unless you have one of the rare VPNs that offers a real kill-switch, which is still subject to the iOS disconnection behavior. And then you get into the fact that most VPNs are garbage data collectors themselves.

People, just check the network traffic yourself with an edge device and turn off cellular, don't downvote the guy because you're ignorant and/or an Apple shareholder, they should be held to account for the behavior and lack of transparency, and there should be a configurable OS-level firewall built into all Apple devices, even if you have to menu dive into security settings to get to it.

Security is important. It's good Apple sent out this warning and I hope they keep it up and continue to hold these attackers to account. That said, it doesn't mean they're doing as much as they could.
 
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Am I glad I switched to the Samsung S24 and gave up using an iPhone.

My iPhone got badly hacked by that Israeli software 6 months ago. I real nightmare. Had to throw the phone out it was so badly hacked.

Seems nowadays iPhones get targeted with spyware even worse than Android.
There's certainly lots of chatter about targeting iPhones, because Apple's superiority complex makes them more tempting targets. Apple's gear is hardened to a greater extent by architecture, design, protectionist ****-moves, and by settings, out-of-box. Of course, Apple is not always on their best SecDevOps game, particularly in messaging vectors (like merely receive an IM, and device it borked. srsly?). Lack of an extensible firewall with user accessible logging? Real bone-heads sometimes.

If malware such as Pegasus gets ahold of your phone, you are better off throwing it in the shredder (Rhetoric Alert: Do NOT throw hacked iPhones into a shredder. Give them to relatives you don't like.) But switching to Android... isn't a solution, per se.

Chatter about cutting droids quieted down because it's comparatively low-effort, for reasons. Android CAN be hardened, but it certainly doesn't come out of the box that way, and hardening an OS is not particularly light work. No matter what vendors say about user security, simply grafting their fancy-pants UIs on top of clean android (ostensibly for "branding" and "experience improvement") opens up a rat's nest of security holes. Then there's jurisdictionally mandated shell and UI code. And then, droid app stores are hives of scum and villainy.
It would be good if Apple published statistics about the state of a user’s phone software when it came under attack.

Was it up to date? How far behind was it? How did hack occur, by mail, message, app or by hardware port, etc.
That would be very interesting, buuut... However Apple is getting it done, they can't afford to revealing anything at all about the sources, techniques or statistical frequencies. That would the long-term veracity of their surveillance program. They're doing good, here, I'd like to presume. Thing is, if they can pick out malicious activities that finely, they can certainly pick out other stuff. And with whom might that intel be shared, and under what circumstances?
To prevent most problems, use totally different passwords everywhere. Stay away from free internet services like Hotmail, Facebook. And don't send sensitive information like passwords on chatting services.
☝️ This guy is on the right track. Always enable/never disable System Integrity Protections. Use Biometric MFA. Use hardware MFA tokens, if at all possible. If you use third-party password + MFA vault services, keep local backups and be prepared to change ALL credentials if the on-line component gets popped (that could be a very long day, indeed). Don't use and free CASB or VPN services, and carefully read the user agreements for the ones you do pay for.

The very basics get you 90% of the way. Another 5% is good personal habits that can be frustrating at times. Another 3% is fairly exotic, egg-head technique... The last 2%, jeeze, nobody is safe there.

Don't dwell on it to the point of personal dysfunction. We're all already "In the Churn," as Amos (The Expanse) would say. Just understand that all the slick integration we prize in modern tech, is enabled ONLY by inherent compromise in security. It's only us humans making this stuff, so far, and we kinda suck. When AI starts making the stuff, well, then make sure you know how to transmit "Share and Enjoy," and "I think digital watches are a pretty neat idea," in hex.
 
It would be good if Apple published statistics about the state of a user’s phone software when it came under attack.

Was it up to date? How far behind was it? How did hack occur, by mail, message, app or by hardware port, etc.
Apple will never do that as it will be exposed to how much unsecured its system is
 
Apple will never do that as it will be exposed to how much unsecured its system is
Thus allowing unverified claims and speculations regarding their software and hardware security circling around unchecked. At some point it will scare many people away from buying iPhone or worrying about their security while using iPhone.

You release the data, people don’t buy it because of how insecure they feel. You don’t release the data, people speculates the worst and try to convince others not using it.
 
If Apple had known at that point, they would have already closed the exploit. Also, if you are a journalist, I hope you do have Lockdown Mode activated anyway. At least while investigating something sensitive.

It’s a cat and mouse game
Tho I feel current lockdown mode is not locking down stuff hard enough.
 
That kind of software is quite expensive to use it to look inside an ordinary person's phone. It. could be that there's some bug in iOS that Apple's trying to hide talking about "state-sponsored" hacking. ;)

No, it is the expensive state sponsored stuff.

People who got the message have had their phones checked and posted the results.
 
What is the point of this, can’t Apple just fix the exploit with their huge army of engineers or are they specifically asked not to do so?

Nothing is safe and people should know it. And they are safe nowhere. Certain countries have powerful intelligence services that will get them from anywhere
 
Am I glad I switched to the Samsung S24 and gave up using an iPhone.

My iPhone got badly hacked by that Israeli software 6 months ago. I real nightmare. Had to throw the phone out it was so badly hacked.

Seems nowadays iPhones get targeted with spyware even worse than Android.
Source?
 
Yep, in spite of Apple marketing, Apple devices are only marginally better than Android with security.

At least with Android, anyone in the know can lock down their phone because they have access to the firewall and other security software. With Apple devices you don't have access or control. I hope you all know that Apple allows certain types of connections, which are undocumented, to bypass the iPhone firewall.

Sure mom and pop off the street are likely to get hosed with Android, but once you realize that Apple has to provide backdoors that governments demand or lose sales then it all becomes clear what a farce Apple's security really is.
iPhone is a consumer device and is not going to meet the bar of a .gov issued phone. General Dynamics, make .gov smartphones with their own vetted OS.

Your iPhone is on your carrier using double NAT and an IPv6 address. Scan your public phone IP with nmap and see what is open. Nmap cannot reach it.

If you are concerned about security as you should be, enable Lockdown Mode.

The problem with the perception of Open Source is that it is assumed the code has been reviewed by someone knowledgeable. The person using it likely has no idea how to read code. They could be duped as easy as an iOS zero day.
 
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