Apple Watch 2: Expectations, your suggestions

[Dekema2]

Forgive me if this thread exists or needs to be merged.

Although AW1 has yet to be release, I am not planning on buying it because of limitations. Much like how Intel's different processors would prevent you from playing different PC games back in the day (as this would require hardware acceleration) the Apple Watch has limitations that prevent it from meeting it full potential to capitalize on.

If it had onboard WiFi and even cellular, that could make a major difference. It would win over a large chunk of people on the fence about this watch. Then you have the thickness. It's not too bad, but this is a company known for making almost trivial alterations to their products' thicknesses. With that in mind one could assume the next generation would be considerably thinner than the current generation, which also makes it more attractive and less cumbersome.

I want to love this watch, don't get me wrong. I'm almost 19 and have been wearing one on a regular daily basis for over half a year now. This one just isn't worth the investment at the moment however.

 

[saving107]

In another thread I counted 2 people who were not getting the Apple Watch, now with this thread that makes it 3.

Don't mind me, I'm just trying to keep tally. On a side note, last night I almost went out for frozen yogurt but then decided not to because it got cold outside, I'll just want for the weather to warm up.

 

[Dekema2]

In another thread I counted 2 people who were not getting the Apple Watch, now with this thread that makes it 3.

Don't mind me, I'm just trying to keep tally. On a side note, last night I almost went out for frozen yogurt but then decided not to because it got cold outside, I'll just want for the weather to warm up.

I don't know if this subforum is for people who are planning on buying the watch, so I am not sure if this thread isn't allowed. I have seen many replies saying the watch in its current state is useless (obviously not for everyone though or else Apple would not be making this), so if it were useless, wouldn't they have suggestions for the next generation like me?

I'm just trying to be objective, that's all.

 

[VirtualRain]

Forgive me if this thread exists or needs to be merged.

Although AW1 has yet to be release, I am not planning on buying it because of limitations. Much like how Intel's different processors would prevent you from playing different PC games back in the day (as this would require hardware acceleration) the Apple Watch has limitations that prevent it from meeting it full potential to capitalize on.

If it had onboard WiFi and even cellular, that could make a major difference. It would win over a large chunk of people on the fence about this watch. Then you have the thickness. It's not too bad, but this is a company known for making almost trivial alterations to their products' thicknesses. With that in mind one could assume the next generation would be considerably thinner than the current generation, which also makes it more attractive and less cumbersome.

I want to love this watch, don't get me wrong. I'm almost 19 and have been wearing one on a regular daily basis for over half a year now. This one just isn't worth the investment at the moment however.

Just like every Apple product ever made, with each generation it will get slightly...
- thinner
- faster
- better display
- longer battery life

And perhaps...
- a new sensor (medical?)
- some new app that won't work on the last version

 

[roland.g]

I would hold off for a gen 2 or gen 3 in 2016 or 2017 and here is why.

thinner
better battery or same since thinner
more refinements
additional sensor(s)

plus we get the chance to see what can be kept, whether the batteries can be replaced, if the bands are interchangeable from gen to gen, etc.

I wouldn't expect to see cellular any time soon because of battery life and size constraints. It does have WiFi essentially because it can communicate on your wifi network beyond the 30 foot bluetooth range.

 

[VirtualRain]

I would hold off for a gen 2 or gen 3 in 2016 or 2017 and here is why.

thinner
better battery or same since thinner
more refinements
additional sensor(s)

plus we get the chance to see what can be kept, whether the batteries can be replaced, if the bands are interchangeable from gen to gen, etc.

I wouldn't expect to see cellular any time soon because of battery life and size constraints. It does have WiFi essentially because it can communicate on your wifi network beyond the 30 foot bluetooth range.

I agree... Or if you really want to try the technology out, get the cheapest watch this year and wait for some cheaper 3rd party bands to appear to dress it up. There's no way it's worth spending a bunch of money on the first gen when you know Apple's recipe for annual updates.

 

[Noble Actual]

Biggest things that will get me to buy one:

1. Cheaper price. The Apple Watch is no exception, things get cheaper after each generation (iPhones, iPads, etc).

2. Better battery life. 2nd generation they better make it actually all-day at least meaning 24 hours. Again, its expected that battery will improve as time goes.

3. An actual useful refined feature. What I mean by this is every product I get, while I use it for a lot of reasons, there's always one reason why I need to have it. MacBook (Mainly for school, I need to code, type papers, do research, etc.), iPad (So I can watch Netflix, play games, do creative work like draw and make music), and the iPhone (obviously for communicating, its my personal device that I take everywhere).

The way I look it at, I need to justify at least using a feature of the Apple Watch and that would be most likely be the health features which right now seem still to be pretty lacking.

Laptop - productivity/work
Tablet - entertainment/creativity
Phone - communication
Smart Watch - health?

Also I find it hysterical some of the apps like Photos and Mail are on the Watch. Even though I have great vision 20/19, its such a tiny screen. I remember switching from my iPhone 4 to iPhone 6 and just being blown away by how easier and more things I was able to see.

 

[franzkfk]

Biggest things that will get me to buy one:

1. Cheaper price. The Apple Watch is no exception, things get cheaper after each generation (iPhones, iPads, etc).

2. Better battery life. 2nd generation they better make it actually all-day at least meaning 24 hours. Again, its expected that battery will improve as time goes.

3. An actual useful refined feature. What I mean by this is every product I get, while I use it for a lot of reasons, there's always one reason why I need to have it. MacBook (Mainly for school, I need to code, type papers, do research, etc.), iPad (So I can watch Netflix, play games, do creative work like draw and make music), and the iPhone (obviously for communicating, its my personal device that I take everywhere).

The way I look it at, I need to justify at least using a feature of the Apple Watch and that would be most likely be the health features which right now seem still to be pretty lacking.

Laptop - productivity/work
Tablet - entertainment/creativity
Phone - communication
Smart Watch - health?

Also I find it hysterical some of the apps like Photos and Mail are on the Watch. Even though I have great vision 20/19, its such a tiny screen. I remember switching from my iPhone 4 to iPhone 6 and just being blown away by how easier and more things I was able to see.

iPad has the same price from 2010 until today. Just the 32GB changed to 64GB.

iPhones can't be compared.

So no. There will be no price drop with 2. gen.

 

[VirtualRain]

iPad has the same price from 2010 until today. Just the 32GB changed to 64GB.

iPhones can't be compared.

So no. There will be no price drop with 2. gen.

I wouldn't count on a price drop either. Although there are plenty of examples of Apple reducing prices in subsequent years, this is not a product where price sensitivity is even a consideration. Value will go up over time.

 

[amirite]

Do you know why Apple Watch doesn't have cellular?

Because no one is going to give up their phone for a Watch. Not with the technological constraints we have right now.

Why design a Watch that doesn't rely on a phone? It would result in a vastly inferior product, and all to appease a vocal minority of people who think the entire functionality and ease of use of an iPhone can be put into a tiny watch in 2015.

No one wants to replace their phone with a watch beside a select few "geeks".

 

[/dev/toaster]

I want to see if the 2nd gen uses the same band as the 1st gen. That would be awesome and easier to spend a lot on a band.

 

[VirtualRain]

I want to see if the 2nd gen uses the same band as the 1st gen. That would be awesome and easier to spend a lot on a band.

Like the lightening connector replaced the 30-pin, a new band connection will be required around the 4th or 5th generation because the watch will be too thin to support the current mechanism

It begs the question... Will you be able to buy a new watch next year without a band?

And when the watch is half the thickness it is now in a few years, with half the gold in it, will it still cost $10K+ (Answer: Yes!)

 

[/dev/toaster]

Like the lightening connector replaced the 30-pin, a new band connection will be required around the 4th or 5th generation because the watch will be too thin to support the current mechanism

It begs the question... Will you be able to buy a new watch next year without a band?

To clarify I don't expect every version to use the same band. But look at the iPhone 5 vs 5s model. The cases generally worked on both.

I would be ok with the band changing every other release.

 

[Noble Actual]

iPad has the same price from 2010 until today. Just the 32GB changed to 64GB.

iPhones can't be compared.

So no. There will be no price drop with 2. gen.

iPad started at $499 for a 16GB / $599 for a 32GB / $699 for 64GB.

Now iPads start at $299 for old gens and like you said, you get more for less.

And why can't iPhones be compared? Its the exact set up as the iPad. New generation introduced, price drop for older gen, more storage for new gen, you still save money.

 

[KauaiBruce]

I am sure the second generation watch will come with a sports band option like this one. After two years of use you are going to want a new one anyway.

 

[slvrscoobie]

Do you know why Apple Watch doesn't have cellular?

Because no one is going to give up their phone for a Watch. Not with the technological constraints we have right now.

Why design a Watch that doesn't rely on a phone? It would result in a vastly inferior product, and all to appease a vocal minority of people who think the entire functionality and ease of use of an iPhone can be put into a tiny watch in 2015.

No one wants to replace their phone with a watch beside a select few "geeks".

and one moronic editor at Engadet. lol

 

[franzkfk]

iPad started at $499 for a 16GB / $599 for a 32GB / $699 for 64GB.

Now iPads start at $299 for old gens and like you said, you get more for less.

And why can't iPhones be compared? Its the exact set up as the iPad. New generation introduced, price drop for older gen, more storage for new gen, you still save money.

Do you know what demagogy means? iPad is only one. No mini, no older iPads. There is only one generation which is current and that you have to count. So now it is iPad Air 2 and it starts at $499, $599 and end with $699. Price is the same since 2010. End of story

You can't copmpare iPhones because they belong to significantly different line of products and different price politic with many contracts and carriers.

We don't know anything about Apple Watch life cycle, price changes and upgradability. We can only guess. Probably they will discount older Apple Watch next year but they will probably change chasis of the Apple Watch to more thinner design like the 1st and 2nd iPads. Than why buy older gen with at least 17% (they usualy go with more) bulkier design.