Apple Watch backup without unpair

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  1. Leo90 macrumors 6502

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    Hello guys! Is there anyway I can backup my Apple Watch without having to unpair it from my phone? The thing is that I want to return my iPhone and wait for a 7Plus to show up at my local Apple Store. I think I can be without a phone for a day or two but I would like to have a functional watch though. If I unpair it from my phone, the watch won't be set up anymore.
     
  2. Night Spring macrumors G5

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    The watch is backed up periodically even without unpairing, but there isn't a way to tell when it was last backed up. That's why you are advised to unpair, because that assures that you have an up to date backup.

    You do realize that if you use your watch without your phone for a few days, then any data it accumulates during those days will be lost when you get a new phone, load it with the saved backup from a few days before, and pair your watch to the new phone.
     
  3. Leo90 thread starter macrumors 6502

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    I know, but I won't be getting a new iPhone in 2 days. So in those 2 days I would like to use it as a regular watch and alarm at least.
     
  4. Night Spring macrumors G5

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    Well, in that case, just keep an backup of your phone. You might lose three days of data, instead of two, but you'll have some kind of backup of your watch. Does that make sense?
     
  5. Leo90 thread starter macrumors 6502

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    But is it assured that whenever I backup my phone on the iCloud service, the current state of my watch is backed up?
     
  6. Night Spring macrumors G5

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    No, which is why you might lose an extra day of data by doing it this way.

    Your iPhone backup will contain a backup of your watch at some recent-ish point in time, probably from the last 24 or so hours, but no asssurance how old that backup will be.
     
  7. Mlrollin91 macrumors G4

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    Actually, there is something that I have discovered over the last year.

    If you do not unpair your Apple Watch with your old phone, but then enter the Watch App on the new phone, it will pop up saying 'Your watch is paired with another phone, reset your watch to repair" (Something like that). Well once you get that pop-up it immediately makes a backup of your watch.

    Now you go to Settings-General-Reset-Erase All Content and Settings on your watch. Once that is finished you go back to the Watch App on your iPhone and pair like usually. It will prompt you to restore from the backup it just created moments ago.

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    I should note. That any health/activity data is not included in that backup, but the iCloud/Encrypted iTunes backup only. So you will lose that data. But you will retain app data, settings, app layout and so on.
     
  8. Leo90 thread starter macrumors 6502

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    If I have no idea how old the backup will be, then you can't guarantee I wont lose all the data I collected before those 2 days.
     
  9. Night Spring macrumors G5

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    No, you won't lose ALL data, because the watch data is periodically backed up to the iPhone. It's just that there's no way to tell exactly when the last backup was made. It should backup around once a day, but once a day could be now, or 24 hours before now.
     
  10. Leo90 thread starter macrumors 6502

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    No, it is not backed up daily at all. I remember I paired my AW once to a new iPhone and the latest back up was the one I had done 3 weeks ago
     
  11. Mlrollin91 macrumors G4

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    The Apple Watch is backed up daily with an iCloud backup and every time you do an encrypted iTunes backup. And again, it will create an immediate backup on a new device if it is paired with an old iPhone as I outlined above. I gave thorough and detailed instructions.
     
  12. Leo90 thread starter macrumors 6502

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    If it is paired to an old iPhone, but I want to pair on a new one
     
  13. Mlrollin91 macrumors G4

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    Did you not read what I posted earlier?

    "If you do not unpair your Apple Watch with your old phone, but then enter the Watch App on the new phone, it will pop up saying 'Your watch is paired with another phone, reset your watch to repair" (Something like that). Well once you get that pop-up it immediately makes a backup of your watch.

    Now you go to Settings-General-Reset-Erase All Content and Settings on your watch. Once that is finished you go back to the Watch App on your iPhone and pair like usually. It will prompt you to restore from the backup it just created moments ago.

    Edit:
    I should note. That any health/activity data is not included in that backup, but the iCloud/Encrypted iTunes backup only. So you will lose that data. But you will retain app data, settings, app layout and so on."
     
  14. Leo90 thread starter macrumors 6502

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    Ok sir! Thanks
     
  15. Leo90 thread starter macrumors 6502

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    Just to let you know I did what you said and of course that couldnt happen for privacy/security reasons. I had to re-pair and use the backup I did the day before. You probably dreamed about this function.
     
  16. Mlrollin91 macrumors G4

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    Nope. I've used it MANY times. I did this with 4 devices last week when my family all upgraded their phones. It's very well possible you did it incorrectly. But it does work. If you set your new phone up as new. That's the problem.

    If you read my instructions I did clearly state you will need to repair it with the new phone but it will create a backup before doing so.
     
  17. Leo90 thread starter macrumors 6502

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    Nope, I restaured all from a backup
     
  18. Mlrollin91 macrumors G4

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    Something else must have gone wrong, but my method works 100%. I've used it a dozen times over the last year.
     
  19. Leo90 thread starter macrumors 6502

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    Was it yours an iTunes backup or iCloud one?
     
  20. Mlrollin91 macrumors G4

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    I've done it with both, but iTunes must be encrypted.
     

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