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Apple Watch Bands Are Safe to Wear, Says Apple, After Lawsuit Filed

Hello1111111111 said:
You didn't read (or didn't comprehend) the article. Apple's position as given in the white paper is that Apple bands containing PFAS are safe to wear for users, but that producing and distributing products containing PFAS has harmful effects. This can be, for example, to the environment near production sites. If I'm not mistaken, PFAS are common in things like nonstick pans, where they are extremely stable and unlikely to cause harm under ideal conditions. But in that case, extended or repeated exposure to high heat can denature the pan or scratches can result in PFAS leaching into food. My point is just that it seems reasonable that PFAS in, say, the Sport Band, are exceptionally unlikely to be exposed to the conditions that would make it harmful to users. Although environmentally safer alternatives should of course be used if they exist or can be engineered.
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You clearly didn’t read the original article where it stated that large amounts of PFAS are being absorbed through the skin with these bands. Stop making comparisons to pots and pans, it’s not being released in the same way.
 
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Where are the "You are not Tim Cook! Do you run a trillion dollar company? You are not an Apple engineer! Do you think you know better?" people?
 
Apple will of course say it is safe to use. But I think in this case it may be meeting the required standard. Hopefully the straps are safe. Would like to get more information.
 
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AndiG said:
Got a leather wristband recently. No toxic waste or plastic, pure cow 🐮
Sadly Apple became a woke company that fears to sell leather products, so it sells PFAS. Toxic not only for humans but for our whole planet.
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yea stay organic.
 
Few with over exaggerate the severity of an issue in this case the toxicity of the band. Drawing out with a Bible size entry writing explanation. No, the sky isn’t falling. This is why more times than not these fan sites have the worst commentary from input from users. Or more times than not it’s wrong Exacerbated to extend. As believe it was safe to wear. I wore mine for 5+ years I should’ve been dead by now. I’m not:rolleyes:
 
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julesme said:
Apple’s statement is also contradictory because 1) Spokesperson says the bands are safe to wear, but 2) Apple is working on a multi-year process to phase out PFAS. If there is no safety issue with PFAS, then why are they phasing them out?
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There can be other reasons for phasing them out, things like cost, manufacturing difficulty, exposure during the manufacturing process, etc. You're jumping to a conclusion by asserting those two points are contradictory.
 
The only ones that did not have PFAS was FineWoven...yeah you know the story. Mother Nature got fired for it. So how committed is Apple??
 
Considering many toothpastes contain this junk and you are far more likely to ingest the chemicals this way, a wrist band would be the least of your problems, this is just a cynical cash grab, I mean many many other products contain it, so why just sue Apple is it just because they are perceived as being cash rich
 
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ilikewhey said:
i knew switching to the milanese loop was a good choice but now its also a healthy choice
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When I bought my watch, I had already bought a knock-off Milanese. Whilst it is easy to see the differences, it functions very well.

The strap that came with the watch is sitting in its original never-opened box. Awaiting sale of watch if ever I upgrade - with perfect, untouched strap!

Reasons:
Silicone polymer straps on other products have proved to be horrible. However hard I scrub my wrist and the straps, and with whatever agents, they smell unpleasant. And my skin just doesn't like being covered up like that. So I already knew I didn't want one even if a real Apple strap is better than other products I have used.

But the best price offer came with silicone polymer strap.

Having been so pleased with my current strap, I might actually splash out on a real Milanese strap if I buy a new watch.
 
This stuff is in so many things, including the drinking water we consume where there is no statutory standard apparently. Not sure how a class action lawsuit could stick for a rubber watch band tbh. Interesting though.
 
I wish Apple decided to find and use a sustainable (also read: that doesn’t use oil) watch bands and iPhone covers.
 
iBreatheApple said:
On this note, doesn’t the fine print in iPhone say that the device needs to be held at least 5 mm away from your head? What does that mean for Apple Watch cellular? Is this long-term exposure safe? It’s fastened directly to our skin around the clock.
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You are exposured to cellular radiation all the time, and do you wear your watch on your head?
 
julesme said:
With all due respect, Apple’s statement is from a public relations spokesperson and does not really address the issue raised in the lawsuit.

Apple’s statement is also contradictory because 1) Spokesperson says the bands are safe to wear, but 2) Apple is working on a multi-year process to phase out PFAS. If there is no safety issue with PFAS, then why are they phasing them out?
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Because they're "forever chemicals" -- meaning they aren't broken down by typical natural processes -- and they probably ARE unsafe under certain conditions, like if they accumulate and become of a high enough concentration when dissolved.
 
They should clearly state which bands specifically are implicated and let consumers decide. But we can guess based on the last sentence. Fitness, Nike, Ocean. I guess Ocean is only for Ultra. But most people use tooth floss etc covered in the stuff. They chemicals are everywhere
 
julesme said:
With all due respect, Apple’s statement is from a public relations spokesperson and does not really address the issue raised in the lawsuit.

Apple’s statement is also contradictory because 1) Spokesperson says the bands are safe to wear, but 2) Apple is working on a multi-year process to phase out PFAS. If there is no safety issue with PFAS, then why are they phasing them out?
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They don’t make it very clear, but their argument was that while it’s safe for people to wear, it’s toxic to manufacture.
 
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julesme said:
With all due respect, Apple’s statement is from a public relations spokesperson and does not really address the issue raised in the lawsuit.

Apple’s statement is also contradictory because 1) Spokesperson says the bands are safe to wear, but 2) Apple is working on a multi-year process to phase out PFAS. If there is no safety issue with PFAS, then why are they phasing them out?
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Because using these materials is a lawsuit risk for Apple whether there is any actual health risk for the users or not.
 
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Love all my Gore jackets with pfas and don't plan on replacing them anytime soon. Keeping all my  watch bands as well!
 
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