Apple Watch - Hard for me to wrap my head around.

Discussion in 'Apple Watch' started by Huliodude, Jun 9, 2016.

  1. Huliodude macrumors member

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    You know I try not to buy tons of Apple stuff. But this company's got a way of extracting money out of your pocket, you gotta admit.

    I have several watches in the $200-$800 range, and I've worn them in rotation for years, mostly Seiko and Citizen Divers. I remember thinking it would be cool to have a smart watch years before smart watches came out. When I was a kid I had a Casio Data Bank watch that had a calculator on it, and stored 50 phone numbers with names! This was awesome, and I didn't understand why everyone didn't have one of these watches.

    When I got my first cell phone in 1994, it was a Motorola flip phone, I think it was called a MicroTac. It stored 10 phone numbers without names. You had to remember what speed dial number was for which contact. My Casio watch allowed me to have 50 numbers on me, and I used the phone and watch together to be able to call anyone I wanted. So I guess you could say I was ready for smartwatches...

    I think the problem with the Apple watch and people in general is the disparity between what you expect, and what it actually is. I know that was the problem for me. Remember in the movie 40yr Old Virgin where the virgin's coworker is telling him his problem is that he's "putting the p*ssy on a pedestal"? That's what I did. I had put this watch on a pedestal, and it didn't deserve it. However, I don't think I'm entirely at fault here. Apple's marketing is incredible! They made this watch look like it could do anything! I guess that's what good marketing does, it makes you want to buy the product. Problem is, when it's not everything you expected, people tend to return them or sell them, and tell their friends about the experience. Perhaps if they downplayed some of the features and benefits of this watch, it could have done even better. Historically, that's what Apple does on some of their best selling products. When I walk into my local Apple Store, the place is packed with people looking at the iPhones, MacBooks, iMacs, etc, but nobody is at the watch table. Nobody. This is telling.

    Anyhow, I bought my first Apple Watch and tried it for a few days. At $470 Canadian plus tax, I could not justify the price for what it did. So it notifies me of texts, and emails. My phone is in my pocket! Do I really need a remote control for my phone that's right in my pocket? The whole smartwatch idea in my mind was crumbling. Yeah it's kinda cool, but seriously, is that it? I know it's got other features, but it's so easy to do without it, and I don't have to charge yet another device every day. So I returned it.

    You know, the darn thing stuck in my head. It was pretty cool having the weather on your watch. It was super incognito to receive notifications during times when it would be inappropriate to pull out your phone. And step tracking, and silent count down timers were great when BBQing, etc. It was nice to walk around the house and not have to carry my phone, and not miss any calls or notifications. Even though I had to find my phone to properly respond to someone, at least I knew what was going on even when my phone was somewhere else in the house, or office.

    Anyhow, I went through this process of trying to figure out if this watch is worth it for what I'll use it for. I bought and returned 1, bought a used one and sold that, and now I'm on my 3rd. I think it's a keeper this time.... I think.

    So if you're wondering if you should buy one, all I can say is this: Be prepared that it won't be everything you expected, and you probably won't use 80% of the features it has. However, it does do things no regular watch can do, and over time you will see subtle benefits that really grow on you. I now see the value, but I can also see why it's been a hard sell for Apple. I'm excited to see where smart watches go. I can see in 10yrs they will penetrate the market the way the smartphone has. They'll just be too useful to not own one.
     
  2. kilcher macrumors 65816

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    I have to admit I only skimmed over your post. I don't have an Apple Watch yet but I'm mildly intrigued. I'd say there's an 80% chance I'll buy the second gen. I already wear a Jawbone for step tracking. I like the idea of having an Apple Watch for similar features. With some fitness trackers already in the $100-150 range (granted mine was $40) it's not beyond the realm of possibility I'd pay $349 for an Apple Watch that does the same thing..

    Plus, this week my bank finally added Apple Pay. So the thought of paying by tapping the watch vs. getting my phone out seems pretty cool to me.

    Anything more it does on top of that I'd see as a bonus. But I agree, some people probably have unrealistic expectations for a first gen product. I would have been one of them. And let's face it, there's really only so much you can do, and do well, on a screen that size. Will be interesting to see what the next gen holds.
     
  3. naasrd macrumors 6502

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    Can you edit this post? It's way too long to read and has the danger of appearing as a rant.
     
  4. BlueMoon63 macrumors 68000

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    You both hit on certain keys that made me get the Apple Watch. That and I am a sucker for Apple products and probably have $25,000 in products in the house with a wife and three kids all with Mac laptops and iPhones and more.

    I wore a watch every day and had 6 that I used in a rotation based on what I would wear for color or function. Had a UP24 and liked that for silent alarm and sleep tracking and for exercise. Just felt like I still just wanted a watch and not another device.

    Since I am into fitness and silent alarm and sleep tracking the AW made sense. Having the weather complication and To Do's on the main screen was more than enough for me. Adding the heart rate tracking which is perfect at night and almost spot on for me was a bonus. Not having to carry my phone when going for runs or walks or yard work and still listen to music makes me love the Apple Watch.
     
  5. Armen macrumors 604

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    I wonder if someone said the same thing about wrist watches when they debuted.

    "A watch on my wrist? I have one in my pocket why do I need that".
     
  6. Volusia macrumors regular

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    This is exactly the place I am in right now. I use a FitBit Surge so I can see my text messages and can see caller ID, but can't address either, I have a lot of the other features provided by the Watch, but not all. Right now I am tempted by the lower price currently being offered by Best Buy, but am waiting to see what the next generation might offer, and, at what price! I love Apple products and how they work together and genuinely want the Watch, but try not to expect too much.
     
  7. bodonnell202 macrumors 6502a

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    I tend to think that less is more with a smart watch. It needs to do a few things well and leave it at that. Date and time, fitness tracking, weather, notifications and music controls.
     
  8. zhenya macrumors 603

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    Other than working faster and more reliably, the only things I really want from the next generation AW are GPS and possibly an always-on display. I don't use most of the features as it is. Getting key notifications on my wrist, weather, calendar, and all-day HR is more than worth it for me. Almost everything else I thought I might have wanted turns out to be really cumbersome with a device on your wrist. As it is though it un-tethers me from my phone, without me worrying I'm missing anything important, and allows my phone to be permanently silenced. It's very freeing and when I hear other people's call and notification alerts now I'm reminded how obtrusive they are.
     
  9. njchris macrumors regular

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    I've only had mine a few weeks, and I wasn't going to get one until the 2nd gen.. But $100 off I couldn't resist $249.

    I'm enjoying it a lot. I like that it tells me to stand up when im sitting too long. Seeing my steps on my watch face and temp or some other info from a complication.

    Getting a text on there is just convenient. And you can scroll, reply with a stock answer or use siri on the watch to dictate a response. I can even look at a pic, animated gif or video someone messages to me.

    Seeing notifications in general is nice to glance at the watch to see and look at later on my phone.

    A quick swipe on the watch to see my bank balance, or subway line status, pick a destination for maps (love the blinker sound on the watch for upcoming turns).

    I didn't think I'd like it but I'm glad I got it. :) Maybe because my expectations were low or realistic. :)
     
  10. Goatllama macrumors 6502a

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    The way I think of it, the point of the Watch is to make it so you don't have to take the phone out as much, maybe less a functional thing and more a social thing. It's supposed to reduce the time spent staring at the phone. Other than that, your opinions seem pretty accurate to me. I do think the Watch has a lot under the hood that is underutilized and perhaps not as accessible / intuitive as it could be, but those are the sort of things that should come to the user after having used it for a while.
     
  11. BarracksSi Suspended

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    I wasn't aware of how much the AW had weaseled its way into my daily routine until I tried wearing one of my other watches.

    I'll be doggoned if I didn't glance at my Seiko diver, expecting to see the weather (do I bring a jacket or not?) or hoping to send a text to my wife, and then mutter, "Aw dang it, my Apple Watch is at home..."
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    Eh, it took a while. Wrist watches were mostly "women's jewelry" and had been around for years.

    Then World War I happened, and soldiers had taken to wearing smaller pocket watches, often modified for protection, on their wrists where it was more convenient to read the time. They were able to coordinate movements and attacks thanks to their wrist-borne timepieces. They wanted the same convenience at home, so watch manufacturers obliged.

    But yeah, the phone-in-my-pocket is a similar argument against not only smartwatches, but wristwatches in general.
     
  12. Armen macrumors 604

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    The goofy part is some people stopped wearing wrist watches because the cellphone in their pocket displayed the time. Now we're taking the technology of the pocket back to the wrist.
     
  13. sean000 macrumors 6502a

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    I think part of the problem is that our phones keep getting bigger, so they have moved from the pocket (which was fine when I had a Motorola Razr) to our bags, purses and backpacks. I remember that the iPhone 3G seemed big compared to my Razr, but it replaced both my Razr and my Palmpilot. And the 3G was still quite pocketable compared to the 6 and 6+. Sometimes I carry my iPhone 6 in my pant or jacket pocket, but it's usually in a messenger bag, backpack or in the handlebar bag of my commuter bike. It's usually not hard to get to... Just not convenient when all I want is to glance at the time, weather, calendar or a notification.



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  14. rockyromero macrumors 6502

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    I remember a story about airplane pilots requiring a watch and it was more convenient to put it on the wrist.

    I find the AW extremely important to me when I'm riding my bike.

    Before the AW, I would have an iPhone strapped to the bike and, of course, it dropped one time and cracked the screen.

    Now, my iPhone is in my pocket & my AW is easily accessible whenever I need it.

     
  15. Huliodude thread starter macrumors member

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    Sean makes an excellent point. Carrying your iPhone 3G was small and light, and you'd take anywhere with you in a place that was easy to reach. I won't often take my 6+ on a bike ride or motorcycle ride unless it's in my backpack, or tucked away somewhere safe. Larger phones make them less pocketable and versatile, which increases the benefit of having some phone functions on your wrist.
     
  16. maflynn Moderator

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    This is why I opted for an iPhone SE, and have not looked back ;)

    I agree the trend has been for larger phones, but I think the pendulum has started to swing the other way.
     
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    It happened a long time ago when many realized the 6 Plus was too unwielding and cumbersome to use and settled on the 6, but some people were slow to come to grips with this and put up with the Plus for the whole year (or longer).
     
  18. MartyCan macrumors 65816

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    If you're wrapping your head around it you are wearing it wrong...just saying! ;)

    I had one Apple Watch and bought a second. Now I wear them 24/7. Sleep tracking, activity tracking. Reading and replying to some text messages. Discarding junk email without takikng my phone out. Checking weather. Timer for cooking and barbecueing and anything else I want to time. I use it for a lot of stuff. Could I do without? Yes. Do I enjoy having it? Definitely.
     
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    And I went just the opposite. I had stuck with the 5s for years, and then jumped to a 6s+. I bought my Apple Watch at the same time, knowing I'd want to keep it in pocket more. And I also stopped carrying around an iPad when I went to the 6s+. So I effectively when from iPhone 5s + iPad to iPhone 6s+ + Apple Watch. I am quite happy with where I landed.
     
  20. sean000 macrumors 6502a

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    I think Apple really made a good move with the SE. There is something really nice about that size. Easy to pocket and easy to operate with one hand. I could also see opting for the larger 6+ now that I have an Apple Watch and don't need to get the iPhone out as frequently anymore, but even my skinnier iPhone 6 is a bit awkward for me to hold and operate with one hand.

    Sean
     
  21. rockyromero macrumors 6502

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    First, the Watch does not wrap around the head.

    Second, there is no second.

     
  22. Skylitfly macrumors 6502a

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    This, and the fitness capabilities are the whole point behind the Apple Watch. I wonder why it's so hard for some people to understand.

    It's a convinience device. It's handy but not necessary. You buy it if you want it, there is no need to justify the purchase for yourself. As simple as that.
     

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