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To be honest, the watch makes little sense. It's a scorn here in America besides fans, let us see how far it goes. Even fans can't wear it to work, unless they don't look at it.
So, a person thinking of buying one should listen to those who don't own one and "scorn" it, rather than those who do and love it? Because those who do love it are "fans" and they can't possibly know that it makes no sense? o_O First off, response to the watch has been good in the U.S., with buyers/reviewers more than satisfied. "Scorned" in America? That's a total crock. Second, everyone I know who owns a watch wears it to work and use them when needed at work. So, you're flat out wrong there, too.

Third, the watch makes a TON of sense. I was at a place yesterday where everyone had their phones out. Most were working on laptops and they were constantly stopping to text and/or answer calls on their phones. Me...I glanced at my watch and went back to work. There is something about the phone that makes people feel they must respond and check on other things while it's in their hands (twitter, Instagram, etc.). The watch is the opposite. It gives you the info, but you don't feel the need to respond, and so you don't lose work or focus. Unlike all those phone people, *I* got work done. I'd say that makes a lot of sense.

I pay with my watch--no digging out phone or wallet. This makes sense. People around me looking at their phones as they walk (and sometimes drive or even ride bicycles!) don't look up. They bump into people, they drop the phone. I can't keep my wrist lifted to stare for minutes at the watch--it's always a quick glance. So I don't bump into anyone. And my watch doesn't fly out of my hands. I have never had to say "Where did I leave my watch?" as people do with their phone. This makes sense.

You are, to be honest, totally and completely wrong. Not only is the watch well liked in America, but it makes sense. A great deal of sense.
 
So, a person thinking of buying one should listen to those who don't own one and "scorn" it, rather than those who do and love it? Because those who do love it are "fans" and they can't possibly know that it makes no sense? o_O First off, response to the watch has been good in the U.S., with buyers/reviewers more than satisfied. "Scorned" in America? That's a total crock. Second, everyone I know who owns a watch wears it to work and use them when needed at work. So, you're flat out wrong there, too.

Third, the watch makes a TON of sense. I was at a place yesterday where everyone had their phones out. Most were working on laptops and they were constantly stopping to text and/or answer calls on their phones. Me...I glanced at my watch and went back to work. There is something about the phone that makes people feel they must respond and check on other things while it's in their hands (twitter, Instagram, etc.). The watch is the opposite. It gives you the info, but you don't feel the need to respond, and so you don't lose work or focus. Unlike all those phone people, *I* got work done. I'd say that makes a lot of sense.

I pay with my watch--no digging out phone or wallet. This makes sense. People around me looking at their phones as they walk (and sometimes drive or even ride bicycles!) don't look up. They bump into people, they drop the phone. I can't keep my wrist lifted to stare for minutes at the watch--it's always a quick glance. So I don't bump into anyone. And my watch doesn't fly out of my hands. I have never had to say "Where did I leave my watch?" as people do with their phone. This makes sense.

You are, to be honest, totally and completely wrong. Not only is the watch well liked in America, but it makes sense. A great deal of sense.

I was one of the early doubters. I even bought a Garmin fenix 3 instead of getting an Apple Watch.

I still stick with my decision (but at over $500, wouldn't you?) and yet see where the Apple Watch does fill a need.

It's hard for me to admit, but in a crowded field with all kinds of 'smart watches', the majority, IMO, look pretty 'dumb' compared to the Apple Watch.

And we've had Pebbles and a few lessor varieties around...

I'd bet that a Garmin fenix 3 replacement for me will probably be whatever generation of Apple Watch is currently shipping...
 
Same here. Everyone I know that bought one either loves it or really likes it. Once I have the cash to drop on one, I will be buying.

Hesitated for a long time and finally made the plunge last weekend . . . am loving it more each day. I am pulling out my iPhone less and less (and recharging its battery much less often). An awesome device and this is from someone who has typically not used a watch. Will be getting my son one for the holidays as he needs a watch at work but can't use his phone.
 
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Third, the watch makes a TON of sense. I was at a place yesterday where everyone had their phones out. Most were working on laptops and they were constantly stopping to text and/or answer calls on their phones. Me...I glanced at my watch and went back to work.

People around me looking at their phones as they walk (and sometimes drive or even ride bicycles!) don't look up.

It's not so much as a statement about your watch than what it says about the way a lot of people are today as opposed to others who do not have to bury their face into their tech.

Yeah, lots are busy checking, texting, reading, what not. And there are those that I deplore who read the phone while taking chances walking across the busy street or who read the phone while slowly traipsing into a metro, where there are scant few available seats in view, but for the dolt right in front of me on his or her phone.
 
Apple will hardly sell any of these watch's in NZ we are not so pathetic we to need to wear this watch. The price is expensive as well.
Not to mention it appears to be online sales only from the Apple Store so we can't even go in and try it on.

I remember vividly New Zealand was the only country in the world that didn't sell out of the PS2 in their opening week.

I guess we just don't really care. That or the economy is in the toilet.
 
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Really, really interested to see how they roll it out here in New Zealand having no official Apple Stores. There's a lot of pressure on the official re-seller to facilitate the try-on appointments etc up to Apple's standards, and I can't imagine it being lumped in with all the other electronic retail chains.
 
Just order it from Germany. You'll pay only ~16€ extra (at least for Sports model) to have it shipped to Finland if you use Mailboxde.com.
Ha. Funny story, I actually had that set to go and it was an adventure to get my order through. I still had to face a 3-5 week shipping time so eventually I decided to cancel and wait for my local launch. Been regretting that decision but now I'm too committed.
Countries with Siri supported languages first I suppose. Without Siri, the watch make little sense.
I'm not disputting it, but fun fact is I do have Siri set to english on my iPhone. Not my native language but I have to speak it daily.
 
It's been 85 years since they chanced its name to Istanbul because of linguistic reasons. After founding Republic of Turkey from the ashes of Ottoman Empire they had done a series of reforms including language. Changing Constantinople to Istanbul was a part of it. Reasonable people call it Istanbul just like they call China's capital Beijing not Peking.

Although it's been 85 years you still keep bringing Constantinople up because you have political concerns. Please keep your political arguments to political platforms.

Correct, although why they changed it, I can't say.
 
Really, really interested to see how they roll it out here in New Zealand having no official Apple Stores. There's a lot of pressure on the official re-seller to facilitate the try-on appointments etc up to Apple's standards, and I can't imagine it being lumped in with all the other electronic retail chains.

NO APPLE STORE?

I thought there was one in Auckland? Interesting...
 
No, New Zealand has no physical Apple stores. We have some authorised resellers (like Cyclone or YooBee, the latter of which annoyingly shut down all their stores in the South Island) but no 'temples of glass'. :)

This place and Denmark have been screaming for an Apple store for years.
 
No, New Zealand has no physical Apple stores. We have some authorised resellers (like Cyclone or YooBee, the latter of which annoyingly shut down all their stores in the South Island) but no 'temples of glass'. :)

Oh. Odd...

Must have been a reseller that I saw. We only had the afternoon in Auckland, as we had to catch the insanely early flight to Sydney. We cruised Queen and Albert Streets, and spent way too much money, but had a blast. Saw my first Lambo, and a Maybach, Bentley, etc... A lot of money there, and no Apple Store? WTH! Is it an Australian plot? (Doubt that)
 
It's been 85 years since they chanced its name to Istanbul because of linguistic reasons. After founding Republic of Turkey from the ashes of Ottoman Empire they had done a series of reforms including language. Changing Constantinople to Istanbul was a part of it. Reasonable people call it Istanbul just like they call China's capital Beijing not Peking.

Although it's been 85 years you still keep bringing Constantinople up because you have political concerns. Please keep your political arguments to political platforms.
It's a song, donkey kong. Get off your pretentious high horse.
 
Of course if you actually want to BUY an Apple Watch in New Zealand, they are only available in three stores, IN THE ENTIRE COUNTRY. Not only that, all of these are in the North Island of the country (New Zealand has two main islands). To make it even worse, you can't just go into one of these stores and even look at the watch, you have to visit the store first and make an appointment, and then go back to the store to try them on and make your purchase -- too bad if you have to travel 6 hours to get to the store in the first place, they will still refuse to make the appointment unless you actually go in.

Oh, and of course, the watch (like almost everything in New Zealand) is much more expensive than in the US.

So, the only real way is to buy one online. I guess Apple isn't planning on selling many there.
 
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Of course if you actually want to BUY an Apple Watch in New Zealand, they are only available in three stores, IN THE ENTIRE COUNTRY. Not only that, all of these are in the North Island of the country (New Zealand has two main islands). To make it even worse, you can't just go into one of these stores and even look at the watch, you have to visit the store first and make an appointment, and then go back to the store to try them on and make your purchase -- too bad if you have to travel 6 hours to get to the store in the first place, they will still refuse to make the appointment unless you actually go in.

Oh, and of course, the watch (like almost everything in New Zealand) is much more expensive than in the US.

So, the only real way is to buy one online. I guess Apple isn't planning on selling many there.

And yet, when I was there, I saw quite a few Lamborghinis, Ferraris, and Maseratis being driven about. North Island, mind you, but I think that, given that, there won't be a huge problem for people wanting to pay for the Apple Watch...
 
And yet, when I was there, I saw quite a few Lamborghinis, Ferraris, and Maseratis being driven about. North Island, mind you, but I think that, given that, there won't be a huge problem for people wanting to pay for the Apple Watch...

With an average income a little over half of what it is in the US, and prices which are on average 30% to over 300% higher, New Zealand is not exactly known as a country where people have either decent incomes or spending power (half the population earns less than $16,500 USD a year). I guess Apple is counting on this, and doesn't see why they should put much effort into making the watch more readily available. For those of us who are actually interested in the watch, the local retailers are being shown to have horrendous customer service (pretty standard in New Zealand), leaving an online purchase, or trip overseas to buy as the only realistic options.
 
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