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Yeah? You see the year? Do you know what year Apple Watch first launched?
The Apple Watch is an FDA cleared device for heart rate monitoring, just as I said. And if you want to be specific about it, yes I'm talking about Apple Watch 6 with the O2 sensor. That's what we were discussing after all.

The heart rate monitor and the ECG are both FDA cleared as Class II devices. The O2 sensor is not, and Apple has NEVER claimed it is a medical feature.
 
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The Apple Watch is an FDA cleared device for heart rate monitoring, just as I said. And if you want to be specific about it, I'm talking about Apple Watch 6 with the O2 sensor.
And I'm talking about heart rate monitor that's on Apple Watch since first launch.
 
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Are you that close to the legal limit on such a frequent basis?
I'm actually never close to the legal limit (.08). But I use an app to try to guess at where it might be, and keep it under .05. Because over that, you're just getting more "drunk" and less buzzy. Actually having the Watch be able to tell you fairly accurately what it is would be awesome.
 
I'm actually never close to the legal limit (.08). But I use an app to try to guess at where it might be, and keep it under .05. Because over that, you're just getting more "drunk" and less buzzy. Actually having the Watch be able to tell you fairly accurately what it is would be awesome.
LOL. Just limit it to a drink an hour. You need a device to tell you if you’re buzzed?
 
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Quick question: Anybody know if the ECG app on the Apple Watch has been updated since the Series 4 to be able to report on Atrial Fibrillation if heart rate is below 50 bpm? When I try to use it on my Series 4, it just reports "The app could not check for atrial fibrillation because your heart rate was under 50 bpm".
 
Even though the Apple Watch O2 sensor is inherently less accurate than cheap existing pulse oximeters, my guess is that any blood pressure reading provided by a near-future Apple Watch will be even less accurate, making it even less useful than the O2 sensor, which is already of limited usefulness. We shall see, but I'm not the least bit optimistic about any built-in blood pressure functionality. However, if it uses an external sensor not built into the Watch, then that's a different story.


Quick question: Anybody know if the ECG app on the Apple Watch has been updated since the Series 4 to be able to report on Atrial Fibrillation if heart rate is below 50 bpm? When I try to use it on my Series 4, it just reports "The app could not check for atrial fibrillation because your heart rate was under 50 bpm".
Not supported under 50 bpm.
 
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Bring a true standalone (no iPhone or other gadget required ever) Apple Watch and I am sold.
 
I hope the next step is not to prevent your car play enabled car to start if your alcohol level is too high… 😂😂😂
 
Vitality has a partnership I believe with Manulife

I get mine, Apple watch 6 44mm, free with the program, there's an activation fee for the 40 mm ($97) in the link you provided, the program is similar, points differ though, I need to get 2500 pp/m, manulife/vitality 500pp/m, I can't seem to find how much exercise one needs though to get to those points, must be similar to here, just get less points per exercise than here.
For instance, if my exercise is longer than 30 minutes and 70% Max. heart rate, I get 200 points, 60 minutes...300 points.(Maximum points one can get a day)
7.500 steps-50 points.
10.000 steps-100 points
15.000 steps-200 points (Max. a day)
 
Ok, so I've been pretty grumpy with Apple lately.

But these really are cool features. If they really do this, I'm buying an Apple watch.

(As a gift for a diabetic friend. I still can't stand wearing watches, so not for me.)
 
Would blood alcohol levels be protected by HIPA if law enforcement wanted access to that data?
 
I work in the industry.

Blood glucose with the watch is years away.

B/P. There’s a reason why most docs take it manually. More accurate.

BAC. Ehh. Gimmicky
Yeah that’s what I figured. I recall maybe 10 years ago reading about contact lenses in development that would be able to monitor blood glucose levels for diabetes. I don’t think anything came of them.
 
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Yeah that’s what I figured. I recall maybe 10 years ago reading about contact lenses in development that would be able to monitor blood glucose levels for diabetes. I don’t think anything came of them.

They seem to be related technology (both appear to use optical sensors). I'm guessing they technically work, but aren't accurate enough to be interesting for diabetics, and blood glucose generally isn't particularly interesting for those that aren't. (One use case for non-diabetics would be to detect diabetes early, but if the sensor isn't accurate enough, that isn't gonna work.)
 
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Just wondering how that’d work. Doesn’t blood glucose check require drawing blood and alcohol levels require breathing? Would they have a little needle or something?
 
Just wondering how that’d work. Doesn’t blood glucose check require drawing blood and alcohol levels require breathing? Would they have a little needle or something?
The blood glucose monitor is probably optical, not invasive, and therefore likely quite inaccurate.
 
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Just wondering how that’d work. Doesn’t blood glucose check require drawing blood and alcohol levels require breathing? Would they have a little needle or something?

The blood glucose monitor is probably optical, not invasive, and therefore likely quite inaccurate.

I can see the hi def Jony Ive style video now of slick graphics and voiceover saying - "Apple Watch 7 uses machine learning and its new M1 chip to precisely target where it will stick the needle once every twenty minutes such the pain and bleeding can be minimised" 😂
 
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They seem to be related technology (both appear to use optical sensors). I'm guessing they technically work, but aren't accurate enough to be interesting for diabetics, and blood glucose generally isn't particularly interesting for those that aren't. (One use case for non-diabetics would be to detect diabetes early, but if the sensor isn't accurate enough, that isn't gonna work.)

Yes, I get the impression from reading the article that this is all optical sensing technology. I wonder how much scope there is to improve accuracy in the coming years or is it destined to hit a wall as far as that is concerned simply because it is optical? The latest Apple Watch is not encouraging in that respect, I find the blood oxygen monitor to be quite inaccurate due I assume to being very sensitive to wrist position and when it is taking one of its periodic automatic measurements the user doesn't know it is taking a reading so can't follow the keep-still and rest-wrist-on-table instructions you get if manually initiating a measurement.

I'm excited to see these extra measurements at least being attempted but in my opinion unless they can get them to reasonable accuracy levels they aren't really of that much use. One of my big wishes for the 2021 Apple Watch is a version 2 blood-ox sensor that is a worthwhile improvement on the v1 sensor in terms of accuracy of the background readings. In fairness v1 blood-ox isn't catastrophic but there is definitely scope for improvement. Similarly I suspect that with these new sensors a future release of v2 versions with better accuracy (if that's possible) might be the point when I really get excited. Still, with so many "what new features are really left to add to the iPad/iPhone now?" types of posts it's nice to have Apple Watch where I think there are many ways in which the feature set can be evolved and sensors undergo worthwhile improvements for many years to come.
 
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