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Is there still any doubts that this thing will be a huge success? I still don't see a point, but it will for sure.
 
Again I ask you... What exactly would Pharrell have to do in order to earn your respect, and what is it that you don't respect about him in the first place?



Oh, really? You're making a judgement call because you have such a sense of hostility towards a person that you wouldn't want to be associated with something they'd wear? Let me guess... Was it Seal that you disliked "with a passion" from Australia's Voice?



So, someone "classy" and "over 50"? Careful... Your racism is showing.

Hasn't earned respect. HA HA HA. You don't even know who he is. He is BEHIND THE SCENES of some of the biggest songs of the last twenty years. He's been around literally DECADES.

Just because you're ignorant doesn't mean others aren't. Pharrell is HUGE.
 
Or a move of desperation? Kind of embarassing that Apple feels they need all of these celebrity endorsers of this kitchy gadget. (Being an Apple product alone should be enough to sell millions of these things as it is.)

I swear there are an awful lot of 'experts' on this forum who apparently can spot every single mistake Apple make so easily.

If you have all the answers, why are you not consulting for Apple and getting paid millions?

I mean seriously don't you think that a company as rich as Apple have hired some talented people and thought through their strategy?

We're talking about a famously rich and influential company that has gone from strength to strength in the last couple of decades. Yet apparently the Internet is full of people ready to tell them they don't know what they are doing.

I happen to disagree with the naysayers. I think Apple are doing a great job at building buzz about their new product. I say good for them.

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Lol. Completely off topic, but the idea of Bond with Omega is blasphemy, if you follow the Bond story regarding watches. The original Bond watch is a Rolex, and Ian Fleming actually wrote that in the books (Rolex Oyster Perpetual). Bond was modeled after Fleming himself, and he wore a Rolex Explorer. Bond's first movie watch was a Rolex Submariner. Omega only came into the picture when they offered up silly amounts of money to be Bond's watch back around 1995.

Well Rolex didn't want to pay for product placement. So that's why he wears an Omega.

For a few movies Bond wore a Seiko!

It's not like Omega is a slouch in the watch department. Like Rolex they are COSC certified, and frankly they have a less stuffy image. I'd take my Planet Ocean over a Submariner any day.
 
Apple is basically giving the watch to any celebrity with 5 seconds of media time. Apple don't really care how respectable the celebrity is or how much fashion sense they have. it's just "get as many eyeballs seeing the product as possible".
This article proves this correct. If you're only giving the product to respectable celebrities with a fashion sense, this Williams guy would never get an Apple watch to advertise.

When I see him with an Apple watch, I don't see "cool guy with a cool product I also want to own". What I do see is "Apple becoming desperate and allowing any zero-rate celebrity with zero respectability to wear the product just so it has some media air time"

That hurts Apple as a brand in my eyes. It's not showing Apple products as something classy that the respectable people of this would want and we should want also. It's showing Apple as putting out overpriced junk that any overpaid zero-rate celebrity just buys because they have too much money.

Some harsh words there.

Pharrell Williams has been collaborating and producing music since 1992. He was nominated for an Academy Award in 2014. In fact on his Wikipedia page he has been nominated for EIGHTY major awards in his career and won ELEVEN Grammys. Pretty amazing for this 'zero-rate celebrity.'

He's earned good money too, having an estimated net worth of $80m.

As if his music career wasn't good enough for you, he just won the 2015 Fashion Icon Award last week.

So you have a hugely influential and award winning musician and producer, and fashion icon with 6.1 million Twitter followers, and you think Apple are wrong to use him to help popularize their product? Please walk me through that gramps.

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Looks as stupid as the rest of the clothes he has on. So yay?

How many fashion icon awards have you won?
 
Hasn't earned respect. HA HA HA. You don't even know who he is. He is BEHIND THE SCENES of some of the biggest songs of the last twenty years. He's been around literally DECADES.

Just because you're ignorant doesn't mean others aren't. Pharrell is HUGE.

I think you quoted the wrong person... I was defending Pharrell :)
 
Apple is basically giving the watch to any celebrity with 5 seconds of media time. Apple don't really care how respectable the celebrity is or how much fashion sense they have. it's just "get as many eyeballs seeing the product as possible".
This article proves this correct. If you're only giving the product to respectable celebrities with a fashion sense, this Williams guy would never get an Apple watch to advertise.

When I see him with an Apple watch, I don't see "cool guy with a cool product I also want to own". What I do see is "Apple becoming desperate and allowing any zero-rate celebrity with zero respectability to wear the product just so it has some media air time"

That hurts Apple as a brand in my eyes. It's not showing Apple products as something classy that the respectable people of this would want and we should want also. It's showing Apple as putting out overpriced junk that any overpaid zero-rate celebrity just buys because they have too much money.


I refuse to believe you are a real person.

Man Apple must be really dumb to let the most famous person, most desired producer, and judge on the highest rated singing show, just in 2014, wear the Apple Watch. What idiots.

Where is Candice Bergen? There's a lady who could move product. GET HER ON THE PHONE!
 
I do know the history of the Bond watches. "Heavy Rolex OP... metal bracelet... middle of the night." - Fleming. First one on the screen was a Submariner 6348, or colloquially the JB Sub. True, the first watches were Rolexes. But the Rolexes are mostly associated with Sean Connery. Roger Moore favored Seiko watches. :eek: Tim Dalton wore Tag Heuer. Pierce Brosnan started with the Omega's. His famous Seamaster; also called the JB Seamaster. Daniel Craig has worn a few Omega's but seems to prefer the Planet Ocean. So for the past 3 decades it's been Omega. Whether Omega is a paid sponsor or not, it is the watch of Bond, and has been for a generation. Rolex was the watch of Bond for a previous generation.


One thing I've always found ironic about Daniel Craig playing Bond, but wearing Omega as Bond is that in real life he is a pretty avid Rolex collector, and wears a Submariner, same reference number as Connery wore when playing Bond. Has even worn it to interviews regarding his Bond movies. Lol. Again, totally off topic. But interesting to those of us who like watches and Bond.
 
Or a move of desperation? Kind of embarassing that Apple feels they need all of these celebrity endorsers of this kitchy gadget. (Being an Apple product alone should be enough to sell millions of these things as it is.)
When the Apple Watch was first previewed last year, many people suggested that Apple couldn't sell the watch the way it has always sold phones (ever since the company opened its doors in 2007).

Now, here is Apple promoting the Apple Watch in ways very different than it promoted its first product, the iPhone. It's as though Apple agreed with the naysayers.

My guess is that Apple isn't satisfied with the prospect of selling mere millions (to the people who would buy it without promotion). They want to sell tens of millions or more, and be the undisputed leader in smart watches.
 
I see the Apple Watch like the first iPod, it was bulky even if we didn't think so at the time, had very limited storage and not many features, and no Music Store to support it.

The Apple Watch does have a place in the Apple eco system and will get better in the future versions.
 
So, other than the fact that Apple's PR department has distributed this to a bunch of minor celebrities, I still don't understand what is the clear advantage of the Apple Watch over Android Wear?
 
But it's A-OK for Samsung to have Lebron James and Jay-Z endorse their products but somehow it's wrong for Apple to have celebrities as endorsers.

Bunch of nitpickin hypocrites...

And why does Samsung stoop to those levels...because it's Samsung and they need to pull out all the stops. (Not too difficult to figure out.) Apple is much more dignified and shouldn't need to resort to similar tricks to sell their watch.

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Since when are the popularity of Apple products and the way the rich and famous also embrace them mutually exclusive? Sure they slipped an Apple Watch to him a week before me but something tells me that a guy that wears a giant, stupid hat everywhere doesn't need to be paid to be interested in fashion.

It's called product positioning. Apple provides him the watch which he wears on the show to create buzz in advance of the preorder date. It's a marketing tactic that Apple PR felt the need to pursue with celebrity product placement. The watch will sell itself, Apple doesn't need celebrity endorsers.
 
I refuse to believe you are a real person.

Man Apple must be really dumb to let the most famous person, most desired producer, and judge on the highest rated singing show, just in 2014, wear the Apple Watch. What idiots.

Your sarcasm noted. But Apple still did it. It's not showing a classy product on a classy wrist. it's that simple. Apple have it there just to have the product placement on the show. Apple in this instances is caring more about the number of eyes seeing the product and less about who is actually wearing the product.

Some harsh words there.
Harsh but true. He has a lot of awards but that doesn't say anything about how respectable he is. I'll give an Australian example to help you understand this. Shane Warne is the most famous and best Spin Bowler ever. I don't think anyone could argue with that. He has a load of awards "including ball on the century". He is a national icon. But would anyone in their right minds take fashion advice from him? No way. People would actually not wear a watch he has worn simply because Warnie has warn it. That doesn't make Warnie uncool, it just makes him a man with zero fashion sense.

Williams is the same. He can get all the awards under the sun and the fashion committees out there can proclaim him as the best. But he's just has no fashion sense. The fact of the matter is Apple put the watch on his wrist just to get more eyes on the watch as it's a highly rated show. It's certainly not a classy wrist. And we shall see if this style of putting the watch anywhere it'll get eyes on it will pay off or not.

Again I ask you... What exactly would Pharrell have to do in order to earn your respect, and what is it that you don't respect about him in the first place?
You never asked my this question before so you can't ask me again. But I'll answer you. He needs to be down to earth more approachable and not so stuck up I guess. But this question really avoids the main point here. He is not a classy wrist for the watch. He never will be. Not just fault, that's just who he is. Lots of people will never be a classy wrist to advertise the Apple Watch. This includes famous and non famous people alike. I know a few people (famous and non famous) who would be perfect for the Watch. Of cause I'm not one of them. If Apple wanted the Watch advertised only on classy wrists, Williams would never have gotten one. But Apple are advertising differently, just choosing anyone with large media time so more eyes see the watch.

Oh, really? You're making a judgement call because you have such a sense of hostility towards a person that you wouldn't want to be associated with something they'd wear? Let me guess... Was it Seal that you disliked "with a passion" from Australia's Voice?
No. I disliked Delta. I like her music a lot. But as a person she is stuck up, totally up herself and only cares for herself. The new Jessie J to replace Redfoo is just as bad. It's not a race thing.
I like Seal, he's pretty cool actually. Seal? Hmmmm now that's a classy wrist for the Apple Watch.

So, someone "classy" and "over 50"? Careful... Your racism is showing.
How is that racist?
 
Harsh but true. He has a lot of awards but that doesn't say anything about how respectable he is. I'll give an Australian example to help you understand this. Shane Warne is the most famous and best Spin Bowler ever. I don't think anyone could argue with that. He has a load of awards "including ball on the century". He is a national icon. But would anyone in their right minds take fashion advice from him? No way. People would actually not wear a watch he has worn simply because Warnie has warn it. That doesn't make Warnie uncool, it just makes him a man with zero fashion sense.

Your Australian example is irrelevant. Apple did not tap him to wear their watch on national TV in America.

Pharrell is however highly respected by millions of people in the younger demographics for his contributions to music. He has appeared in magazines and won fashion awards. No matter which way you cut it, and I really don't consider myself a fan, but the guy is cool.

You may spend the next week posting on here that he isn't cool. But it doesn't matter. He has his fame, his fortune, the respect of his peers, and legions of fans. Six million Twitter followers and 4.8m Instagram followers. He has 196 music credits in TV and Movies, and 139 personal appearance credits.

You're just some guy who likes to post mean spirited things on the Internet, and apparently lack the vision to see why Apple would tap someone like Pharrell to promote their product.

Williams is the same. He can get all the awards under the sun and the fashion committees out there can proclaim him as the best. But he's just has no fashion sense. The fact of the matter is Apple put the watch on his wrist just to get more eyes on the watch as it's a highly rated show. It's certainly not a classy wrist. And we shall see if this style of putting the watch anywhere it'll get eyes on it will pay off or not.

Sorry, just more drivel here. A guy like that is not just 'any' wrist. This is a highly influential popular celebrity who is considered cool by the kinds of people Apple are looking to sell their watch to. One of their challenges is going to be getting young people to come back to the watch, after so many reject the notion of wearing a watch.

You think young people would be swayed by a silver haired Clint Eastwood or Jeremy Clarkson wearing it?

I think Pharrell was an exceptionally good choice for Apple. They caught some harsh words for pushing U2 a little much since they are getting older now. It's hard to think of many artists with such mass appeal in that younger demo that would have been a better choice.

Fact is, you posted a bunch of ignorant things about a guy you clearly know nothing about, now you're digging your heels in stubbornly and rejecting reality and trying to create your own.

But why not put your money where your mouth is? Suddenly we are in an alternative universe a week ago. Tim Cook just called and offered you a part time job that pays $1m a week with free health care. Your first assignment is to name five celebrities to wear the Apple Watch on TV in the next week, and your goal is to make it appeal to the under forty crowd.

Who do you name? And why? Oh and Tim Cook tells you he'd been thinking of using Pharrell, how do you explain to Tim that he would be a bad pick?
 
So again you're simply speculating that Apple gave him the watch??? Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh Gooottttt It! You're a freaking genius.

You made a statement and tried to back it up with old speculation.
I asked for source and you can't provide.
That's OK. That's how the truth gets out.
 
Not sure if trolling or...

You have no idea if Apple gave Pharrell a watch, if Apple gave him an option to buy one early, or if it's a loaner watch for marketing reasons. Stop being so overly dramatic, breathe, calm down, and at least attempt to give rational thinking a shot... because "to be honest", Apple doesn't care if you buy a watch or not since millions of other customer are already planning on doing so.

Actually, millions of customers are NOT planning on doing so.

Hate to bust your portfolio, but it's not going to be the big seller you think it will be.
 
Surprise, surprise (to me). I posted something about Apple giving watches to Celebrities before the release (in the Apple Watch Forum) and the "mod" closed the discussion and directed me here. I wanted to talk about the Apple Watch (not Pharrell) and I was directed here. I'm confused :eek:

The mods here are sometimes a little sketchy... Don't let it bother you. :D
 
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