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I think last years model line up was better. I prefer the stainless steel model to the aluminium which chips and marks too easily. That sapphire screen takes a lot of abuse too unlike the cheap one.
The SS has been removed from sale in my country (NZ) with only the S3, Nike & S1 (all alu) available.
If I switch to the US store I can get a SS "Hermès" model for a premium. I don't want the fancy leather strap. The black rubber one will do just fine.
Shame as I really wanted to upgrade my S1 SS...
 
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In other news Apple Watch sales soared after the release of their third generation.
 
I have a very split view on AW. When I first got my series 3, my first ever AW, I used it a lot with my 5S. Since I got my X I use it a lot less. I think if more standalone apps start coming out for the LTE version it will become more interesting but for now it's definitely not a necessity but a fun sometimes helpful gadget.

Also if Apple continues to focus on the health function (monitoring heart rhythm in the US is a nice start) but I'd like them to do there own sleeping app and whatever other useful health monitoring stuff it can do.

This is thing about the Watch that you appreciate more over time. It truly is a companion device. And that companionship is most into useful when it’s the little things, the notifications, the quick calendar glance from a complication, that time you quickly need to reply or take a call when you don’t have your phone. You shouldn’t be using your watch for more than a few seconds at a time. You definitely should be spending more time on your X. But the Watch, for me at least, becomes this background to your life that you really miss when you don’t have it always to hand (or wrist). Far more so than the lock screen of my phone is.

Also, if you’re fat and you do what it says, and pay attention to it, you will lose a lot of weight. I did. YMMV, I have no idea of your fitness or weight.
 
Most of you guys use these devices to stay distracted. How about using the watch to dominate yourself. Track energy burn. Track how you use your time to make adjustments. Turn off notifications. I now refuse to upgrade phone cause I want to use it less and don’t want to be another moron staring at a screen and scrolling like some impulsive brain dead zombie. If you give the watch to a guy who dominates as if he’s chasing air to breathe, that guy will outperform you no matter what junk you own
 
As smart watches go, the Apple Watch has the best ecosystem, and is the best offering at the moment. Also don't see anyone beating them .

Having used the Apple Watch and other offerings, I think its a really good offering, but I wouldn't call it best. I prefer the Gear S3. There are pros and cons with all of them. If you want a big library of apps, then AW wins for sure. But most of the apps to me are of limited value and the stuff that comes installed is 95% of what you use it for. Apple's success I think has more to do with Apple customers being "all in" on Apple and the closed ecosystem, and being OK spending to buy more of the ecosystem. I've been there and get it. I still have an Apple Watch, although I've not used it now for months.

Even if the Apple Watch market share declined over the summer as the article indicated, it's still the best selling smart watch in the world and With the release of Series 3 in September, its expanded with LTE and will continue to grow with more health advancements. Apple owns the wearable market currently.

This article doesn't support your statement that "Apple owns the wearable market currently." They only looked at "watches" vs. all wearables... which Apple has about 10% share in. That coincidentally matches about what Apple has for phones and computers too. So I'd say Apple is right where they want to be... but they don't own the market.

https://venturebeat.com/2017/11/30/...omi-and-fitbit-tied-for-first-ahead-of-apple/
 
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I'm not religious, but, for a second, my mind saw this

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as this

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This article doesn't support your statement that "Apple owns the wearable market currently." They only looked at "watches" vs. all wearables... which Apple has about 10% share in. That coincidentally matches about what Apple has for phones and computers too. So I'd say Apple is right where they want to be... but they don't own the market.

https://venturebeat.com/2017/11/30/...omi-and-fitbit-tied-for-first-ahead-of-apple/

There really is no one else even touching Apple right now in the sector of the wearable market, partially that's because of the iPhone being the number one selling smart phone in the world. . Given that the only other real competitor is Android and Fitbit, what else really is there to compare to the Apple Watch? Also, your article isn't exactly Indicative of numbers sold, Given Apple doesn't release numbers for the Apple Watch. Xiaomi isn't even relevant in this sector, being their Products are primarily Available in China. Which really leaves Fitbit being the next competitor.

Aside from logistics, overall popularity wise, I would say fitbit would probably win in that sector because of the more affordable price points and they have a larger lineup of products. But given the compatibility with the iPhone, the Apple Watch obviously is the most clear choice for the majority and has clearly grown since the first generation Watch. But regardless, I still believe Apple dominates the wearable market and it's continuing to grow with the Series 3 and LTE.
 
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Most of you guys use these devices to stay distracted. How about using the watch to dominate yourself. Track energy burn. Track how you use your time to make adjustments. Turn off notifications. I now refuse to upgrade phone cause I want to use it less and don’t want to be another moron staring at a screen and scrolling like some impulsive brain dead zombie. If you give the watch to a guy who dominates as if he’s chasing air to breathe, that guy will outperform you no matter what junk you own
What a relief! None of this applies to me because I’m not . . . a guy. :)
 
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News doesn't have to be unexpected or acyclical. When significant numbers change significantly, it's news regardless. When the temperature drops every winter, does the weather channel just ignore it and only talk about precipitation chance?

That analogy doesn't work. A better analogy would be the news (and not the Weather Channel) reporting every single time that it's winter.

This article isn't merely a press release from IDC or otherwise a statement of fact; it adds slight commentary and analysis — it implies that the decline is relevant, and speculates that it's in part because of Series 3 rumors.
 
Imagine people waiting for the next model year with new features...
Hopefully they have hashed out some connectivity issues with LTE. It's not the best but good enough to go jogging with and not have your phone dancing around in your pocket. I still get spotty signal in an otherwise great reception area with my phone. I still can't imagine myself without it, though.
 
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I think it’s safe to say now the AW was a flop. Tim Cook has yet to create a new “category” that can rival the iPhone or iPad. I miss Steve.

Was indicates past tense, don't you mean is a flop, being the Apple Watch is still available. Either way, that's not true and I know you know that, you're just disparaging against it because you don't like the Apple Watch personally. However, aside from that, the "I miss Steve Jobs homage" is Over used. Steve is gone. For all we know, the Apple Watch could have launched under Steve Jobs as well and still have been just as successful as it is today.
 
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I have two with two different issues sitting in a drawer ready to be recycled. Far from the best. I switched to Fitbit. bye $1300 Apple watch. (2 x stainless)



Even if the Apple Watch market share declined over the summer as the article indicated, it's still the best selling smart watch in the world and With the release of Series 3 in September, its expanded with LTE and will continue to grow with more health advancements. Apple owns the wearable market currently.
 
I have two with two different issues sitting in a drawer ready to be recycled. Far from the best. I switched to Fitbit. bye $1300 Apple watch. (2 x stainless)

So you bought an Apple Watch, twice, and in both cases not a cheap configuration either, only to let it wither in a drawer?

Have you heard of… selling?
 
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He hasn’t matched the single most successful consumer product in human history? What a loser.

Haha, you know it.

If when Tim Cook had taken over, you had said "he will make Apple so valuable that the stock price will double in 5 years" you'd have said that was a big ask. Impossible. Unfair. But Tim Cook has done it.
 
I had a Series 0 and loved it. I can't point to one single thing that makes it killer, but it's just a great accessory. It's my favorite way to activate Siri (which I use A LOT) and really cuts down on phone noise.

The Series 3 is such a nice upgrade. I didn't realize how slow the S0 was until I had an S3. The S0 was certainly usable, but the S3 is so fast. Having Siri talk back is an oddly welcome feature.

I get that people don't like/want these. I don't think they're really must have, but I sure enjoy mine. I do not understand the griping about daily charging either. Nightstand mode is pretty awesome actually, but if MUST sleep in your watch, charge it while in the shower or something. Whatever.

And, frankly, I like the way this thing looks—especially the stainless models. I have a bunch of bands. Yes, I understand this is purely fashion.
 
I have two with two different issues sitting in a drawer ready to be recycled. Far from the best. I switched to Fitbit. bye $1300 Apple watch. (2 x stainless)

You can get AppleCare after you purchased the product (within one year of the purchase date, I think)... Watch was only released two years ago, so you might still be able to get it.
 
My wife and I just got AW3 GPS models. We didn’t even think for a second about the LTE models (an extra monthly charge x2 and $50/watch more?).

Admittedly when Apple Watches first came out, I thought they were insane, stupid, pointless devices. Having owned one for a week, it is one of the coolest things I’ve had in awhile.

Most of you guys use these devices to stay distracted. How about using the watch to dominate yourself. Track energy burn. Track how you use your time to make adjustments. Turn off notifications. I now refuse to upgrade phone cause I want to use it less and don’t want to be another moron staring at a screen and scrolling like some impulsive brain dead zombie. If you give the watch to a guy who dominates as if he’s chasing air to breathe, that guy will outperform you no matter what junk you own

First thing I do is turn off all notifications. I may be rare, but my phone is on silent (no vibrate) 24/7. I’ll give my attention to what I want to give my attention to because my time is limited and valuable. Also, I can’t relax with notifications. If it is important, a voicemail will be left and I’ll respond. If not, it can wait.

So the first thing I did with my Apple Watch 3 was to turn off ALL notifications. I got AutoSleep and HeartWatch - my wife and I teamed up on Activities. We’ve run almost every day since we’ve purchased these watches. Tracking runs is awesome. Seeing heart data is amazing. I’m really enjoying this and I see it only getting better with time.

A previous skeptic, I’m really happy with this purchase - so is my wife.
 
The lack of killer features on the Watch is hindering its adoption.

Until battery life, health monitoring sensors, and flexible display technology improves, the Watch is a sidekick, not a must-have.

Battery life is probably the biggest problem. Most users don't want to charge a watch frequently just so they can have notifications on their wrist.
 
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