An antique one. I inherited an old railroad pocket watch from my father. I doubt it's worth a lot of money, but it's pretty cool.lol. What kind of $350 watch is worth passing down a generation?
An antique one. I inherited an old railroad pocket watch from my father. I doubt it's worth a lot of money, but it's pretty cool.lol. What kind of $350 watch is worth passing down a generation?
You can't compare this to cars though.
Example I have an old Benz at home. It has built in Motorola phone. Car is still runs but the Phone tech is no longer usable. The resale value of my car on the used market isn't brought down by the tech because the main point is whether the car runs and how well. Plus the tech in the car can be upgraded. Also the engine, interior and exterior can be upgraded to increase usability and value for resale.
The usability of the apple watch is the tech and value is based on the casing & band material. Value and usibility are split.
Once the tech becomes obsolete and functionality is margiinalized by newer watches the only value in the Apple watch is in the casing and band unless it is for a collectors item.
We need to know how long Apple will support old apple watches on newer phones.
I think a better comparison would be to the Nokia 8850.
I have loads of unusable tech at my house that cost me a ton of money. None of it can be upgraded and none of it is usable which drags down resale. Now just imagine if my Nokia 8850 was solid gold?
Ok let me compare it to this: one way tickets international flights can cost $7000-10,000. Yes there are people who buy flights like this all the time. Think they will think twice about a 10k watch? Probably not.
At least then it would have good battery life.
This rumor may have been leaked by Apple to attempt to gain more interest for the watch. I've read countless articles outside of the Apple bubble. It's a mixed bag of reactions and many are ho-hum we aren't impressed types of comments.
I'm sure Apple has closely analyzed everything written to date and decided to open the rumor mill for its own benefit as is often the case.
However I must say I thought J. Ive would put a little style into it. As plain and bland as the case is, there's nothing about it that sets it apart from garden variety run of the mill watches that are no longer worn.
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You're absolutely right.
But instead they'll take the ten grand, add another few thousand and buy a sexy looking luxury timepiece made by a company with heritage, reputation and cache.
Apple Watch is cold, and soulless.
An antique one. I inherited an old railroad pocket watch from my father. I doubt it's worth a lot of money, but it's pretty cool.
Be careful who you judge. You're in with a very diverse crowd here, many of which have very deep pockets.Or would it be battery afterlife, since you'd be dead....
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You think people who gold plate their sink care about soul.... Money has no soul. But, it is still money. Apple will take it.
I'm optimistic on the Apple Watch. Here's why...
I really like the preview of the app interfaces: Image. Surely I'm not the only one tired of constantly pulling my phone out of my pocket all day to check the time, email, weather, directions, reminders, calendar, etc.
The price for the Apple Watch Sport models ($349-399) seem fairly reasonable for what you're getting.
I will say the dressier (Apple Watch) options seem excessive ... for example the two I like are $649-699 depending on the size.
There's a lot of room for growth and improvement in the product and on the website ...
First, the online shopping experience is too complicated. I have to both pick a model (apple watch, apple watch sport, or apple watch edition), then a size (38mm or 42mm) then a band.
Why not just pick a size, then configure a band? It's not immediately clear what the difference is between the sport and watch models (different glass?). Things will be better when they simplify and standardize a bit. For example, why is there a 1mm and 2mm charger?
Also, everything is a bit too big and crowded on the website interface. Feels like they're trying to jam too much in now.
Most importantly, the product ... In the future when this thing becomes a fully functioning phone or can measure your blood sugar, it's going to be huge.
One final comment. Apple has always charged more for their products but delivered a high value in my opinion. Now with the high end ($10k-17k) watch products it's offering itself as a status symbol. I certainly understand why ... that's the nature of the beast when it comes to watches. I've never liked or related to that about watches. If they do in fact develop an Apple car, I'm sure it will be a similar case.
What you have on your hands is a priceless heirloom.
Filled with character, sentimental value and fond memories. An intrinsic value that cannot be measured.
Railroad pocket watches are uniquely American, they have a very important place in timekeeping history.
For knowledgeable horology enthusiasts like myself that have a fondness and true appreciation for Pocket Watches and that period in US History, the Railroad Watch is highly coveted.
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Be careful who you judge. You're in with a very diverse crowd here, many of which have very deep pockets.
The assumption you've made is very revealing...
This rumor may have been leaked by Apple to attempt to gain more interest for the watch. I've read countless articles outside of the Apple bubble. It's a mixed bag of reactions and many are ho-hum we aren't impressed types of comments.
I'm sure Apple has closely analyzed everything written to date and decided to open the rumor mill for its own benefit as is often the case.
However I must say I thought J. Ive would put a little style into it. As plain and bland as the case is, there's nothing about it that sets it apart from garden variety run of the mill watches that are no longer worn.
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You're absolutely right.
But instead they'll take the ten grand, add another few thousand and buy a sexy looking luxury timepiece made by a company with heritage, reputation and cache.
Apple Watch is cold, and soulless.
Platinum. Great. Something even more expensive than the $17,000 smart watch.
Jony Ive has gone off his rocker.
You don't need to be here on macrumors.... you don't need to own any apple product, you don't need to have a house/apt/condo/car/clothes/ ect ect..... let's move on now.Let's focus on making this a need versus a want and then worry about what colors it comes in.
Introducing the Fisher Price Appple Watch...
Titanium would reduce the weight of a 42mm, 50g watch with sapphire crystal to that of the 38mm, 25g sport watch, or less.
Also put me down for waterproof to 3M.
I would upgrade for either.
Who's willing to pay, rich or not, $7000 for a watch band.
I demand a plutonium Apple Watch.
Here: http://www.apple.com/watch/apple-watch-edition/I'm hoping for an unobtanium case...
An antique one. I inherited an old railroad pocket watch from my father. I doubt it's worth a lot of money, but it's pretty cool.
I'd rather a round watch than new material. Just my aesthetic preference.
Your complaint appears to be against the gini coefficient of the modern world, not against Apple. If someone makes 50x more money than you, and you are happy spending $350 every two or three years on an aWatch, why they not be equally happy spending $17,000 every two or three years on an aWatch? Hell $17,000 is about the price of a trans-pacific First class ticket, and their are people who buy plenty of those.
If you're unhappy at the increasing returns to the 1% of the world, vote for better politicians, but don't blame Apple for providing high-gini prices to the high gini world we live in.
Aside from the fact that I cringe everytime I see the name Ming-Chi Kuo, I think from other reports we've seen published that Platinum won't be coming to the Apple Watch this year. We know they looked at it as a possibility, but backed off.
Now, next year... who knows!
Sorry Ming Chi, not this time.![]()
I didn't even think about this, but it is probably going to happen at some point. Multiple Watch colors (in plastic) would definitely appeal to children.
while still requiring an expensive phone?
Okay... No one needs an iPhone, iPod, iTunes, Apple TV, MacBook, iPad, or apple watch. They are just nice things to have.
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Well, it could be said that we don't really "NEED" anything except food, water, and shelter.
Speaking a bit above those basic survival needs, I do "NEED" my iPhone, as much as I need reliable transportation. I use it daily. It has become ingrained in my business and personal day. So forget need vs. want then, make thewatch as integrated into my work/personal/social life as the iPhone has become.
I want a device that I can glance at in meetings with clients. Something that I can look at quickly in class instead of pulling out my phone. A lightweight music storage device for my work outs. Something to change my music while I am in the shower. Not having to open my iPhone up just to change the channel on Apple TV or skip an episode. Don't worry, if you can't use it many others can. It's not a big deal, just don't buy one.
I want a device that I can glance at in meetings with clients. Something that I can look at quickly in class instead of pulling out my phone. A lightweight music storage device for my work outs. Something to change my music while I am in the shower. Not having to open my iPhone up just to change the channel on Apple TV or skip an episode. Don't worry, if you can't use it many others can. It's not a big deal, just don't buy one.
Hopefully it'll be able to do all of the above and do it flawlessly. Don't get me wrong, I understand the overall gist of it and what they're trying to sell it on... I just don't think it's going to be as earth-shattering as they (apple and shareholders) would like it to be.
Everything you mentioned is more a CONVENIENCE than a necessity. You can glance at your phone in a meeting. People do it all the time. Not having to pull your phone out of your pocket in a meeting or in class is a convenience -- but doing so is a social norm. I and many other people use our lightweight phones when exercising. If you exercise stationary, you don't even need your phone on you (bluetooth). Sure it'd be nice to run my music off of something smaller/lighter... but again, convenience, not necessity. And for apple TV, don't those come with an external remote so you already aren't dependent on your phone?... I don't have one but I think they do.
Anyway, point being, I see the intended purpose and I don't refute anything you've mentioned as being a convenience over the current method of doing things. But that just further illustrates my point. Everything you listed can be done without an apple watch. It's a *want* versus a *need*.
Now where it gets interesting to me is the health-tracking aspects. You didn't mention those things, but those are the things that I think are MOST important about the apple watch. Those are things that my phone *can't* do... that I can see having far more benefits than just me being able to see how many steps I've taken today. Sure there are other health bands so the apple watch isn't really inventing something new... but the tie-in is what's key. I can envision wearing one because if I allow that data to be sent to my health insurance, it could lower my premiums. Or it can detect early signs of an impending medical emergency. THOSE are the kinds of features I think can (and probably will) propel the apple watch into many more lives like mine.
So in conclusion, thank you for mentioning all of the points you mentioned that exemplify my "need vs. want" point or the point that (at this time) it's more of a convenience than a must-have. All the while, missing the one component that really could make the apple watch a NEED (health-related functions). I did not say I could not use one (ever), but until the "more-than-convenience" features are further refined and put to use, I will sit on the sidelines and watch. (pun intended)