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The "pop" you're referring to is probably over-saturation. To quote DisplayMate's S7 review:

Highly saturated colors seldom occur in nature so the colors that are outside of the Standard Gamut are seldom needed and are unlikely to be noticed or missed in the overwhelming majority of real images.

Note that current consumer content does not include colors outside of the Standard Gamut, so a display with a wider Color Gamut cannot show colors that are not in the original content, and will only produce inaccurate exaggerated on-screen colors.​

Apple, on the other hand, targets accuracy-- making sure that the image you're looking at will look the same on all displays. Quoting DisplayMate's iPad Pro 9.7" review:

Both of the measured Color Gamuts for the Pad Pro 9.7 are almost exactly on top of the standard sRGB / Rec.709 and DCI-P3 Gamuts, so they are mostly obscured in the figure.​
I can do selective quoting too: "
Basic Screen Mode with a Very Accurate Standard sRGB / Rec.709 Color Gamut

The Basic screen mode provides a very accurate Color and White Point calibration for the Standard sRGB / Rec.709 Color Gamut that is used to produce virtually all current consumer content for digital cameras, TVs, the internet, and computers, including photos, videos, and movies. The Color Gamut of the Basic screen mode is very accurate, with a nearly perfect 101 percent of the Standard sRGB / Rec.709 Color Gamut. Even better, the measured Absolute Color Accuracy for the Galaxy S7 Basic screen mode is an impressive 1.5 JNCD, tied with the Galaxy Note 5 and Galaxy S6 for the most color accurate displays that we have ever measured for a smartphone or tablet, which is visually indistinguishable from perfect, and is very likely considerably better than your living room TV.
As you know, there are 3 other screen modes on that S7 that customer can choose. Basic mode is an analog to the iPhone's LCD screen. Why would you quote info on the dynamic mode when it's intentionally saturated? If someone wants the most accurate color, according to the same DisplayMate you quoted, they should get an S7.

As I've said before, all of these screens are damn good and getting to the point where these arguments are completely irrelevant. When Apple switches to OLED/mOLED their customers will have the ability to choose modes as well (assuming Apple implements that feature)
 
12.9" iPad Pro not as good as 9.7" iPad Pro though. But good that they're moving in the right direction.

http://www.displaymate.com/iPad_2015_ShootOut_1.htm#Conclusion

iPad Pro

The iPad Pro is a large Tablet, with almost double the screen area of the iPad Air 2, and almost triple the area of the iPad mini 4. Many professional and imaging applications need or can benefit from a large display that you can easily carry around, lay flat on a table, just hold, or rest on your lap. But to qualify as a Professional grade display it needs to provide top image quality and accuracy.

The iPad Pro display performed very well in all of our tests and measurements, earning Very Good to Excellent in all test categories, but it came in or tied for second place in every test except True Contrast Ratio in 0 lux, where it is the definitive winner and marked Best with a record 1,631.

But in two test categories the Pro display was not quite stellar: first, since 2012 all of the iPad and iPhone displays have had near perfect Log-Straight Intensity Scales (something that no other manufacturer has yet been able to match), but on the iPad Pro there is a significant Intensity Scale bump and irregularity at and below 45 percent signal as shown in this Figure, a surprising calibration issue for an Apple display (but still better than most competing Tablets).

Second, in Absolute Color Accuracy the iPad Pro just barely qualified for a Very Good Green rating, just 6 percent from the cutoff, where it has Average/Maximum Color Errors of 2.6 and 6.6 JNCD, much better than the iPad Air 2, but no where near as good as the iPad mini 4, as shown in this Figure. If better Absolute Color Accuracy is important, then for this screen size consider the Microsoft Surface Pro 4 with Average/Maximum Color Errors of 1.9 and 4.1 JNCD – tied with the iPad mini 4 for the most Color Accurate Tablet that we have ever tested.

The displays on the competing iPad Pro and Surface Pro 4 are both Very Good to Excellent in all test categories. The most significant performance differences are the iPad Pro’s much lower Screen Reflectance (2.6 versus 5.6 percent) and the Surface Pro 4’s much better Absolute Color Accuracy (listed above).




http://www.displaymate.com/iPad_Pro9_ShootOut_1.htm

Comparison with the iPad Pro 12.9 Display

The display on the new iPad Pro 9.7 outperforms the iPad Pro 12.9 in every single display performance category except (obviously) size, and then just its Black Luminance, which results in a higher Contrast Ratio in the dark. The iPad Pro 12.9 is still a very good display, it’s just that the iPad Pro 9.7 is so much better than anything else.

Of course... That's because the 9.7" iPad Pro is a newer model with a much improved display over the older 12" iPad Pro. The latest iPad Air has a better display than the original iPad. As expected, display technology improves with time.
 
And this is based on your scientific survey, no doubt. So here's my scientific survey: in two meetings I attended yesterday, everyone was wearing a watch (including one honking big Android watch that made my Apple Watch look dainty). According to my scientific survey, you probably need to get out more often.
98% of your quote is 87% accurate. 66% of that accuracy can be attributed to 100% of the meeting participants wearing watches. The other 34% of the accuracy can be attributed to fruit and pastry trays in said meetings. Therefore, I am 75% more likely to believe your percentages over the other guy. I'm giving him 25% on the believable meter simply because he chose the "go big or go home" number of 99%.
 
I can do selective quoting too: "
Basic Screen Mode with a Very Accurate Standard sRGB / Rec.709 Color Gamut

The Basic screen mode provides a very accurate Color and White Point calibration for the Standard sRGB / Rec.709 Color Gamut that is used to produce virtually all current consumer content for digital cameras, TVs, the internet, and computers, including photos, videos, and movies. The Color Gamut of the Basic screen mode is very accurate, with a nearly perfect 101 percent of the Standard sRGB / Rec.709 Color Gamut. Even better, the measured Absolute Color Accuracy for the Galaxy S7 Basic screen mode is an impressive 1.5 JNCD, tied with the Galaxy Note 5 and Galaxy S6 for the most color accurate displays that we have ever measured for a smartphone or tablet, which is visually indistinguishable from perfect, and is very likely considerably better than your living room TV.
As you know, there are 3 other screen modes on that S7 that customer can choose. Basic mode is an analog to the iPhone's LCD screen. Why would you quote info on the dynamic mode when it's intentionally saturated? If someone wants the most accurate color, according to the same DisplayMate you quoted, they should get an S7.

As I've said before, all of these screens are damn good and getting to the point where these arguments are completely irrelevant. When Apple switches to OLED/mOLED their customers will have the ability to choose modes as well (assuming Apple implements that feature)
Maybe look at the post I'm responding to before you judge my motives. I'm not selectively quoting, I'm explaining what causes the "pop" that people are talking so much about. The "pop" is over-saturation.

To your point, however, if someone wants the most accurate color, according to DisplayMate, they should get an iPad Pro 9.7" (I'll choose magenta!):

The Absolute Color Accuracy of the iPad Pro 9.7 is Truly Impressive as shown in these Figures. It has an Absolute Color Accuracy of 1.3 JNCD for the sRGB / Red.709 Color Gamut used for most current consumer content and 1.4 JNCD for the Wider DCI-P3 Color Gamut used for 4K UHD TVs and Digital Cinema. It is the most color accurate display that we have ever measured. It is visually indistinguishable from perfect, and is very likely considerably better than any mobile display, monitor, TV or UHD TV that you have.
(Lower JNCD is better...)
 
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Wow, those specs are impressive. I was already blown away by the quality of smartwatch displays nowadays. Can't wait to see what the future will bring us and how smartwatches will develop te next five years.
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They better make him thinner, it's too bulky right now.
Are you a tweaker or something?
 
Yes, Apple need to make a Sport watch that is a Sport watch, and a Chronograph style watch that is that, and a dress watch that resembles that. Just making the same watch in different materials with different bands and calling them unique names isn't enough. There needs to be functional difference and look to each line, not this cookie cutter crap.

I'm happy that you're not the Apple Watch product manager.

Apple managed to create a device that pretty dramatically can change it's appearance based on what bands you use. Between that and the changeable faces, you end up with something that feel personal without doing a ton of fragmentation.
 
Maybe look at the post I'm responding to before you judge my motives. I'm not selectively quoting, I'm explaining what causes the "pop" that people are talking so much about. The "pop" is over-saturation.

To your point, however, if someone wants the most accurate color, according to DisplayMate, they should get an iPad Pro 9.7" (I'll choose magenta!):

The Absolute Color Accuracy of the iPad Pro 9.7 is Truly Impressive as shown in these Figures. It has an Absolute Color Accuracy of 1.3 JNCD for the sRGB / Red.709 Color Gamut used for most current consumer content and 1.4 JNCD for the Wider DCI-P3 Color Gamut used for 4K UHD TVs and Digital Cinema. It is the most color accurate display that we have ever measured. It is visually indistinguishable from perfect, and is very likely considerably better than any mobile display, monitor, TV or UHD TV that you have.
I understand what you started out doing. But then you started going down that road with Apple targeting accuracy as if others don't. That's not exactly the case.

Most accurate? Looks like they're leapfrogging now.:) That's a good thing.
 
Nah. They'll probably go back to the screens that were on the gray Nokia phones with the snake game on them. Please someone know what I mean.

Didn't the snake game have a green snake with a pink eye?

Time for the Crossy Road people to copy that.

Snakie Long Long or

Longey Snakey

comes to mind.

While I can see Apple's efforts to make this better with each issue, until
it is a stand alone device it is of no interest for this cowboy.

I can still manage to take out my phone with a bigger screen.
 
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Shame Apple takes such a slow approach to adopting new technology. Apple watch is in desperate need of an upgrade, and it would be good if it made it in for Apple watch 2.


I really think Musk was right in his prediction t=that Apple watch 3 will be a good product. The way Tim manages though, might be Apple watch 4.

One day Apple will get it right..
 
So basically you want fragmentation of the products, as well as people having a far less versatile use case than they have currently.
An actual sport watch would be lovely. We can call this fragmentation (for the most part I imagine the innards of the watch would be the same with the exception of possibly more battery, screen size, perhaps better sensors, etc) but some might prefer to call it choice. A watch is much more an extension of fashion and lifestyle than even a smartphone, I would say.

Regardless, one of the major things that has kept me from an Apple Watch is the lack of an actual sport watch. Apple uses the terms sport to mean "entry level". I suppose therenisnnothibgbnwrongnwith that, but it's really not a sport oriented watch in any way other than that it ships with a sweat resistant band.
 
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At WWDC apple said about watchOS 3 'it's like a whole new watch'
so they wont have two new watches in the Fall '16.
Gen 2 release - 2017 probably Summer with iPhone '10' year edition.
This is their 'most personal product yet' and they don't want to upset folk.
 
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98% of your quote is 87% accurate. 66% of that accuracy can be attributed to 100% of the meeting participants wearing watches. The other 34% of the accuracy can be attributed to fruit and pastry trays in said meetings. Therefore, I am 75% more likely to believe your percentages over the other guy. I'm giving him 25% on the believable meter simply because he chose the "go big or go home" number of 99%.

Well, I'm not convinced. Your analysis fails to identify the standard deviation or p-value.
 
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Micro-LED displays can be thinner and lighter and allow for improved color gamut, increased brightness, and higher resolutions. The panels do not require backlighting like traditional LCD displays, but they can be difficult and expensive to mass produce. Micro LEDs range in size from 1-micron to 100-micron.

Not completely true.

Quantum dot displays have the best color gamut.

OLED can be manufactured at high resolutions. Simply look at Samsung's OLED displays.

LED displays do tend to have better brightness, but OLED displays are being quickly improved to support higher brightness.
 
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Goodbye infinite contrasts.

Also, I own an Apple Watch, and the fact that it's OLED is one of the most enjoyable parts about its hardware.

The only benefit I see from Apple adopting this "micro-LED" mumbo jumbo is brightness will be increased, but it doesn't outweigh the disadvantages (worse color gamut, worse contrasts, worse efficiency).

But it's cheaper for them, so I guess they'll go along with it anyway.

Nice step backwards, Apple.
What are you talking about? Every report on microLED says that the manufacturing costs are one of the main reasons it hasn't been implemented at scale yet.

As for color accuracy and calibration, you realize that the baseline technology doesn't prevent a manufacturer from tweaking for their desired specs right? By which I mean, my friend just got a goPro knockoff who's top screen is a monochromatic OLED. By your logic all OLED should be able to have great color accuracy. Well, this one IS OLED, just a specific implementation that isn't even in color. Wide brushes on a class of technology is foolish.
 
I'm happy that you're not the Apple Watch product manager.

Apple managed to create a device that pretty dramatically can change it's appearance based on what bands you use. Between that and the changeable faces, you end up with something that feel personal without doing a ton of fragmentation.

I'm happy you are not the product manager of anything. With your thinking there would just be one model for every product made with choice of trim, and charge accordingly. But products do cater to specific desires and needs and should be built with those design considerations, not a big catch-all, jack-of-all-trades, master of none, as the AW is.

Let's take watches since that is the subject matter here. A sport watch, esp for running, biking, hiking, needs built-in GPS, a dress watch maybe not. A sport watch and a casual chronograph watch is usually big and exudes power. A formal dress watch should be thin and elegant. Merely changing bands does not convert a sport watch to a dress watch or vice versa. They are as different as a hammer and a mallet.

I really don't think you even understand what fragmentation is. It's creating two or more models so close to each other the consumer can't decide which to buy so buys nothing. Honestly that describes the current state of AW more than what I'm suggesting. Just look at the options one has to make when buying an AW. That is fragmentation. Fact is no other Apple product has more SKUs than AW. And the reality is whether you pay $250 or $2500, at the heart of it, it's the same watch, same basic look, same exact functionality.

So yes, offering unique Sport line, upscale line, racing line, each with their own unique look just as, say, a Rolex DateJust, a Rolex Daytona, and a Rolex Cellini would actually decrease fragmentation.

So basically you want fragmentation of the products, as well as people having a far less versatile use case than they have currently.

No. See above.
 
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So basically you want fragmentation of the products, as well as people having a far less versatile use case than they have currently.

Well it's not like anyone on this forum thinks Apple's current product line is too complicated / not simplified. :p
 
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