I have had zero issues using faceid with sunglasses either on or off.With rumours of iPhone SE models dropping TouchID, options for immunosuppressed people to make in-store purchases, while remaining masked, and wearing (sun)glasses are seemingly constrained. What was previously a case of:
NFC authentication is not like a debit card and does not expose your bank account.
I have had zero issues using faceid with sunglasses either on or off.
If Face ID can't validate when you're trying to pay, a little button appears that says, "Pay with passcode", so there's that option.
You seem to have an issue with absolutely everything. Use Apple Pay on your iPhone or don't. Get an Apple Watch or don't. Use a physical card or don't.so you take your phone out, futz around with trying to get faceid to work, then get prompted to enter a PIN on your phone...
Why would you not just use a physical card that you know will work?
You seem to have an issue with absolutely everything. Use Apple Pay on your iPhone or don't. Get an Apple Watch or don't. Use a physical card or don't.
We're just here trying to help, but if you just rail against every suggestion and bit of information we give then we're gonna stop helping you.
*and* a mask?
While I understand your frustration with some of the unhelpful suggestions being offered in this thread, you haven't been completely clear on what your situation is, either. Like, why doesn't entering pin on the iPhone work for you? Is it just that you find that extra step inconvenient, or is there some more serious problem associated with that?In other words, no.
While I understand your frustration with some of the unhelpful suggestions being offered in this thread, you haven't been completely clear on what your situation is, either. Like, why doesn't entering pin on the iPhone work for you? Is it just that you find that extra step inconvenient, or is there some more serious problem associated with that?
On my previous iPhone, I think it was an iPhone X, the FaceID kept failing on me -- it only worked about half the time. I kept having to enter the passcode to unlock the phone, but I didn't find it that inconvenient.
I'm thinking the people suggesting to just use iPhone passcode also find it not that big a deal.
I don't believe that's accurate. Banking apps that use face ID only know if the face ID attempt succeeded or failed. They don't know if you've enabled the setting for Face ID with a mask.Not with sunglasses, and a hat. At least, my iPad Pro can't, and if you have to drop the security level down, there's a real risk your financial providers will refuse to allow account access.
The good news is that it will work in some scenarios. My prescription sunglasses have worked well with Face ID (not all do) and I have the setting on to recognize me with a mask. I just put them on with a baseball cap and a KN95 and Face ID worked flawlessly multiple times in a row.Well, Apple are clear that it's not designed to work with Sunglasses while wearing a mask, which is my use case, so it's a no for me. 🤷♂️
What I got from your post is that you *preferred* the convenience of Touch ID and not having to enter the passcode. I didn't get the sense that having to enter the passcode is a deal-breaker.I was very clear about how simple the process is with TouchID in the first post. If I say I don't want to have to mess around with entering PINs on the phone, when I've made a specific point about my thumb falling naturally on the home button while taking the phone out of a pocket, that should be enough.
It was a hand-me-down from a friend. Plus, my mobility issues make it hard for me to get a good scan of my face for the FaceID. I assumed the scan wasn't good enough, and since I didn't really mind having to enter the passcode, I never bothered trying to scan my face again.I would have returned that iPhone for a refund. Only working half the time? That's laughably bad for any technology.
Many people just don't have direct experience with disabilities or people with disabilities. They can't help but be ignorant of different life experiences. Holding that against them won't get you anywhere. Jumping to accusations of ablism just causes more friction, and I've found life goes smoother if I keep such accusations as a last resort, after other more gentle means of explaining and persuasion have failed.For THEM. For them it's not a big deal, and here we see the problem of ablism and privilege in a perfect moment of clarity - people refusing to accept that their life experience is not universally applicable to other people.
Apple Pay works on ALL models of Watch going back to the Sport. You don’t need the internet to use it, just double tap the side button to bring up the wallet.With rumours of iPhone SE models dropping TouchID, options for immunosuppressed people to make in-store purchases, while remaining masked, and wearing (sun)glasses are seemingly constrained. What was previously a case of:
...as easy as using an NFC Debit / Credit card, but without spending limits, and biometrically secure, is now less simple, and less secure.
- reach into pocket and grab phone, where your thumb naturally falls on the home button.
- move phone directly to the reader, and wait for the beep / haptic vibration.
- put phone back in pocket.
I have a vague understanding that an Apple watch can be used to do purchases, but I've never had an interest in owning one, so have no real understanding of the user-experience.
Does it need to have its own cellular connection, or does it require you to have your iPhone on your person to ride its internet connection, if you have a GPS(and wifi?)-only model.
Yeah, I get that a lot of Apple Watch owners have that experience. Having to wear an apple watch tightly around my wrist would be net negative for me compared to the current TouchID situation, which is why I'm looking at this as a least-worst option.I use my Apple Watch for many things, but I would have an Apple Watch just for the convenience of Apple Pay alone.
I don't believe that's accurate. Banking apps that use face ID only know if the face ID attempt succeeded or failed. They don't know if you've enabled the setting for Face ID with a mask.
The good news is that it will work in some scenarios. My prescription sunglasses have worked well with Face ID (not all do) and I have the setting on to recognize me with a mask. I just put them on with a baseball cap and a KN95 and Face ID worked flawlessly multiple times in a row.
What I got from your post is that you *preferred* the convenience of Touch ID and not having to enter the passcode. I didn't get the sense that having to enter the passcode is a deal-breaker.
It was a hand-me-down from a friend. Plus, my mobility issues make it hard for me to get a good scan of my face for the FaceID. I assumed the scan wasn't good enough, and since I didn't really mind having to enter the passcode, I never bothered trying to scan my face again.
And that’s exactly why you are getting nowhere on this thread.planning for the worst case scenario is what I'm doing.
The latest iPhones have a newer Face ID sensor than the fourth GEN iPad Pro, and either way they really aren’t comparable.I have a 4th Gen iPad Pro, and even on my unmasked face at home, it's slower, less reliable, and less usable than TouchID
No, it doesn’t need to have its own cellular connection, nor is it required to have the iphone nearby when paying for purchases. The only time it needs internet is when you’re setting up for the first time, adding your cards to it.Does it need to have its own cellular connection, or does it require you to have your iPhone on your person to ride its internet connection, if you have a GPS(and wifi?)-only model.
The only 2FA is the device passcode. You have to enter it when you put on the watch, then you don’t worry about it until you take it off again.Thanks folks, potentially thats a lifeboat for folks who are being left behind by losing TouchID.
Is the biometrics tagged to your wrist itself, or does it need to do a kind of 2FA with FaceID/ TouchID via another iOS device for each time you put it on to authorise that wear session?
correct. or just unlock the paired iphone if it’s nearby and it will unlock the watch too.Is that entering the passcode on the watch itself? And then it stays authenticated for that wear session?
The ipad doesn’t support unlocking with apple watch, though.But you can take off the sunglasses and hat right?
At some point you need to expect that you have to make your own accommodations too. If FaceID uses your face it needs to be able to see significant parts of it.
It does "double-team" with the watch though, so if you use the watch and the phone it's more tolerant:
Unlock your iPhone with Apple Watch when you're wearing a face mask or sunglasses - Apple Support (CA)
When you're wearing a mask or sunglasses and your Apple Watch, you can simply raise and glance at your iPhone to unlock it. Learn how to set up and use the feature.support.apple.com
Or just pay with the watch, obviously![]()
In most countries tapping with a physical card is only allowed up to a certain amount of money, whereas tapping with a phone (apple pay or google pay) has no limit other than your bank account balance or credit limit.so you take your phone out, futz around with trying to get faceid to work, then get prompted to enter a PIN on your phone...
Why would you not just use a physical card that you know will work?