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Apple Watch Review Roundup: The 'World's Best Smartwatch', But 'Not For Everyone'
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I hate to say this, but it sounds like Apple is doing the "samsung" of the smartwatch industry.
at least they have some good designers (I don't like the design myself, but the thing at least doesn't look cheap)
its one case where I think Apple has gone for Function over form, but are trying to push it as Fashion. its so bipolar, and so not apple.
Things that make littel sense for example is the way NFC works for example. A few of the reviewers who have tried it are saying that yes, from a software side it works fantastic, but they have to twist their arm around at uncomfortable angles to get proper contact to work...
thats the type of ommission that doesn't make sense to me from Apple. They're usually the company that does things right, and thinks these things out much better. but this case... it doesn't make sense.
Here are some YouTube videos with the Milanese loop:
The Wall Street Journal's review, which features a Watch throughout with that band: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAXRJPbT-5M.
TechRadar discussion video, which shows a Watch a few times with the loop:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TWtzRze-3s
I understand the point completely. I just found her description either obvious or unimportant.
As if the comparison is warranted. It's not. One doesn't wear a fitness tracker to a "fancy" event. Or most wouldn't. Most people would or could wear a watch. It's therefor no "selling point" to me that she felt she could leave her watch on vs taking it off like the other devices.
That tells you all you need to know about The Verge and this product. Other than The Verge, I have yet to come across anyone who has seen the milanese loop in person or tried on that didn't have good things to say about it. Even if your personal preference is something else you can appreciate the quality of the band. Heck Gruber went into his review thinking he would hate the rubber Sport band and came away calling it "luxurious". I think Patel was predisposed to hate the watch before he used it and that colored his review to some extent.
It doesn't necessarily have to be only picking positive points.Might want to look up the definition of cherry picking. Though occasionally applied the other way, it is generally about picking out only the most positive points (cream or "cherry on top") while ignoring the negatives.
That review might be called "nit picking" by the "half full" crowd and/or "roasted" or similar by the "half empty."
...unless you detest cherries.
From Wikipedia:
I'll add to Re/code quote by saying "...and that's why the Apple watch will be limited, because not everyone will upgrade their iPhones to a 5 just so they can have the convenience on their wrist.."
Some day do,, but i bet if people really like their phones, why should they upgrade ?
Unless of course, as Apple usually does, there one 'key' feature no one can live without.. like sending your heart beat over to an your friends (provided they also have a Apple watch)........ ha.... like that will every change your life.
Whats in the eco-system, stays in the eco-system..
Some day do,, but i bet if people really like their phones, why should they upgrade ?
Unless of course, as Apple usually does, there one 'key' feature no one can live without.. like sending your heart beat over to an your friends (provided they also have a Apple watch)........ ha.... like that will every change your life.
Whats in the eco-system, stays in the eco-system..
This has--imo--a subtext of the whole apple watch notifications thing: shouldn't I just be managing my time/phone is a more rational way instead of responding instantly to everything. There are exceptions--like contractors, etc.
Reminds me of Steve Jobs' selling points on the first iPhone: It's a phone, an internet communication device, and an iPod -- in one device!
They will defiantly have to eat this watch unless they upgrade the watches ios.
Reviews are as I expected, its not an iPad, its not clearly an iPhone type of product.
iPad: I know I want one because I want an iPod touch, want games and want real state screen.
iPhone: everybody uses a cellphone, this is the best smartphone and accessible with 2 year contract.
Watch: not life changing, don't know what to do with it, I don't need or want sensors on me, yet. Its not for everyone, not accessible to everyone(expensive than an iPhone with 2 years contract) and it needs an iPhone.
I hope Apple focus more on: OSX and iOS rock solid stability, Native app for Windows, native app for iWork, new technology and I mean new and yaw dropping, better maps duality, open Siri API, faster response to market to avoid 3 years of work to make an earphone FCOL.
iPad: I know I want one because I want an iPod touch, want games and want real state screen.
iPhone: everybody uses a cellphone, this is the best smartphone and accessible with 2 year contract.
Watch: not life changing, don't know what to do with it, I don't need or want sensors on me, yet. Its not for everyone, not accessible to everyone(expensive than an iPhone with 2 years contract) and it needs an iPhone.
I hope Apple focus more on: OSX and iOS rock solid stability, Native app for Windows, native app for iWork, new technology and I mean new and yaw dropping, better maps duality, open Siri API, faster response to market to avoid 3 years of work to make an earphone FCOL.
The review mentioned doesn't do real time heart monitoring why is it on mens fitness?
Honestly it's not as bad as some early iPad reviews. "No camera, no flash, no multitasking, etc..."
Just out of interest, are you over say 50?
I find the younger generation obsesses about having to be available 24/7 for every non important thing.
When I listen to their conversations:
What's up, not much
and they say nothing to each other, I just wonder.
To be left alone to ones own time management is so calming.
I feel terrorized by the expectations that every text or every e-mail has to be answered immediately.
This watch will add more terror and stress to many peoples lives.
As I posted before I am not against it, but I have to see where it can help me better than my phone.
You say your understand the point completely and then proceed to demonstrate that you don't at all understand the point in the following paragraph.
The point of modern fitness trackers is to stay on your body throughout the day and evening to continuously collect data and give you a full picture of your daily activity. Switching from a fitness band to a traditional watch for a "fancy" event, therefore, is a poor solution that Apple Watch obviates.
I think we define the word positive differently. For me the reviews all echo the same point: this thing doesn't seem to have a reason to exist, and the reasons Apple put forward aren't coming through in usage. They go on to say things like "It's an ambitious idea, and someday could be great, and compared to what's out there, it's much better than it's competition" but those aren't compelling sell points on anything I need in my life.
Which would explain the video review.
"I'm Nilay Patel on a treadmill, the Watch has fitness features but doesn't count the reps I do on bench press. Not good."
"I'm Nilay Patel at an important meeting, I received a notification that someone liked a photo on instagram, why is Apple telling me that? I hate notifications"
Yeah - I get it - I'm just not into fitness activity trackers. Nor would I wear one to gather data during a time when I'm clearly not in need of tracking my fitness level.
I wouldn't be using my Apple watch for activity tracking either. So I (personally) find her comment obvious.
I bet that there will be a flood of updates within a month or so after the product gets out into mass distribution. Just like after every new version of OS X or IOS.
I thought I was the only one, and I'm well under 50.
I don't mind having the alerts queue up on a wearable so that when I am ready to read them i can quickly cycle through them.
is this possible on the A-Watch? or is it real time, once they're gone they're gone? Also, no 3rd party alerts for now is a big letdown. Not everyone is invested in iMessage.
I never take my phone off priority mode. The phone is a tool for me. I am not a slave to it. I choose when to react and respond. Unless of course it's an emergency (and hence priority mode).
this "OMG ALERT I MUST READ RIGHT NOW" mentality always escapes me
"Need" is a very subjective word, especially on this forum.
Unless you have a job that specifically requires you to use an Apple iPad, I daresay no one "needs" an iPad. It's cool and nice to have, but it's also somewhat of a luxury.
Mine has been in my laptop bag for 3 months and i haven't taken it out once. I didn't even realize that until I thought the other day "hey, where the heck is my iPad that I just HAD to have 3 months ago?"
You are exactly right... I have an UP24 and take it off when needing to be professional. You don't have to with this well designed and beautiful looking watch, fitness tracker, etc. It still comes down to personal taste.
We usually see eye to eye - but there are practical reasons for a smart watch that I have found in my personal use case. I've posted them before. In short - as someone who typically leaves their phone on mute both at home and at work - and often steps away from their phone - it's been handy to have alerts sent to my wrist (pebble and now lg g watch) such as a new work email, reminder of an appointment or a call coming in. Can I and did I survive without these - absolutely. Are they "game changers" in my life - no. But quite handy.
But this is also the reason why I feel that less is more for a smart watch. Simple notifications and not dozens of bells and whistles are just fine for me - and I'm guessing many people.
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Assuming that the Apple Watch, does indeed, replicate everything you get from your fitness tracker.