Apple Watch Sales Estimated at 5.1 Million in Holiday Quarter, Swiss Watch Sales in Trouble

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  1. MacRumors macrumors bot


    Apr 12, 2001

    The latest data from Strategy Analytics reveals that the Apple Watch remained the most popular smartwatch through the fourth quarter of 2015, capturing 63 percent global market share based on an estimated 5.1 million sales in the three-month period.

    Samsung trailed in second place with 16 percent market share and an estimated 1.3 million sales. Apple and Samsung together accounted for 8 in 10 of all smartwatches shipped worldwide during last year's holiday shopping season, based on the data.

    Global smartwatch sales rose to an estimated 8.1 million units in the fourth quarter of 2015, an increase of 316 percent from 1.9 million in the year-ago quarter. The growth was led by North America, Western Europe, and Asia.

    The record-breaking smartwatch growth contrasted the troubled Swiss watch market, which declined 4.8 percent in Q4 2015 over the year-ago quarter. Swiss watch sales totaled 7.9 million units in Q4 2015, down from 8.3 million in Q4 2014.
    Apple does not break out Apple Watch sales in its financial earnings results, but rather groups the wrist-worn device under its "Other Products" category with iPod, Apple TV, Beats, and accessories revenue.

    Strategy Analytics previously estimated Apple Watch sales at 4 million in the second quarter, and 4.5 million in the third quarter, meaning that Apple sold an estimated 13.6 million Apple Watch units overall in 2015.

    Early rumors suggested an "Apple Watch 2" would launch this spring, but it now appears that Apple's much-rumored March 15 event will focus on smaller Watch updates, including new bands and perhaps another fashion partner like Hermès.

    Article Link: Apple Watch Sales Estimated at 5.1 Million in Holiday Quarter, Swiss Watch Sales in Trouble
  2. predation macrumors 6502a

    Apr 3, 2013
  3. farewelwilliams macrumors 65816

    Jun 18, 2014
  4. garirry macrumors 68000


    Apr 27, 2013
    Canada is my city
  5. xnu macrumors 6502


    Jul 15, 2004
  6. techwhiz macrumors 6502a

    Feb 22, 2010
    Northern Ca.
    Smart watches are a novelty.
    Mechanical and quartz watches do go obsolete.
  7. 1Zach1 macrumors 65816


    Feb 8, 2008
    Northern Va
    Correlation does not imply causation. I have both smart watches and mechanical watches, they each have their use but my 60 year old Rolex still keeps 3 seconds a day.
  8. djcerla macrumors 65816


    Apr 23, 2015
    I've counted 6 Watches yesterday night in a club in Italy, and I wasn't snooping wrists, it was mostly people checking notifications.

    Satisfaction among my Watch-wearing friends is unbelievable. None of them is a nerd, just normal people.
  9. JPLC macrumors 6502

    Dec 20, 2011
    That Tag Heuer Connected presentation was hilarious! Most crazy thing I have seen in times!
  10. wikiverse macrumors 6502a

    Sep 13, 2012
    People might purchase an Apple watch instead of a Swiss watch for now, but the Apple watch is essentially a disposable. After 2 years, the battery won't work, a new version will be released with new features, and the overall design will change as fashion trends usually do.

    But after dabbling in the 'smart watch' arena, many (not all) people will go back to just wanting a classic timepiece that looks good with casual and formal attire, and isn't the same watch as a 16 year old high school student's.

    There is room in the world for both of these types of products and they're not really in competition.
  11. joe-h2o macrumors 6502a

    Jun 24, 2012
    This comparison seems a bit off. I mean, should Rolls Royce and Aston Martin be worried that their market share is small compared to BMW and Mercedes because they sold a lot of 5 Series and CLKs (who in turn should worry about Ford selling a lot of F-150s and Fiestas)?

    I know that smartwatches (and apple in particular) are trying to position themselves as luxury purchases, but they're not the same market as Swiss watches.

    People who want an analogue timepiece with a mechanical movement are always going to be out there. They might even also buy a smartwatch!
  12. Deuce on the Clock macrumors regular

    Deuce on the Clock

    Jan 9, 2016
    My own universe
    iPad did well at first as a niche product and we see where thats headed now............
  13. PinkyMacGodess macrumors 68040


    Mar 7, 2007
    Midwest America.
    I'd love a less expensive leather cuff style band. And one with dog collar type studs. WOOF!!!
    --- Post Merged, Feb 18, 2016 ---
    But I use my iPad Mini more than my full size one.
  14. ghost187 macrumors 6502a


    Mar 18, 2010
    The link bracelet on my Apple Watch is more innovative than any of these luxury Swiss watches out there, and it's crazy that some of them charge over $10,000 for stainless steel watches. With solid effort from Apple, I can see YOY sales double for the next few years. Some of these companies need to wake up and take the Hermes approach before it's too late, because they can't compete in terms of software or tech hardware.
  15. dmylrea macrumors 68020


    Sep 27, 2005
    Apples and oranges. A manufactured in China, robot assembled, Apple watch is nothing compared to a beautiful Swiss watch. I love my Tag's and would never wear a chintzy Apple watch to an event worthy of a Tag.
  16. DTphonehome macrumors 68000

    Apr 4, 2003
    Not bad. But I don't see this becoming a major product category for Apple. No wonder they are working on a car. With iPad sales trailing off, watch sales being mediocre, and the AppleTV a very small part of their business, they desperately need another multibillion dollar product line in order to substantially grow.
  17. 1Zach1 macrumors 65816


    Feb 8, 2008
    Northern Va
    Any watch maker that is selling a SS watch for $10k doesn't have Apple (or any smart watch maker) on its radar, completely different market segment.
  18. dogslobber macrumors 68020


    Oct 19, 2014
    Apple Campus, Cupertino CA
    Three issues with iWatch:
    1) 1.2 days battery life needs massive improvement. 1 week minimum.
    2) Display must be always on.
    3) It is chunky. Needs to be THIN.

    Apart from that, the iWatch is second to none.
  19. djcerla macrumors 65816


    Apr 23, 2015
    Care to elaborate how?

    Mechanical watches suck even at their only function: telling the time.

    I'm a collector since 1993 (my first Rolex was a Pepsi Rolex GMT Master), but the Apple Watch is now on my wrist Every. Day. I'm actually enjoying it more and more (bought it on release, imported from Germany).

    My Rolex (et al.) collection sleeps in a bank safe, and I'm going to actually start to sell it, as prices will tank.
  20. Kobayagi macrumors 6502a


    Dec 18, 2012
    Hahaha, then lets not hope smartwatch screen sizes start increasing like phone's did. :D
  21. samcraig macrumors P6

    Jun 22, 2009
    Sorry - Swiss WATCH sales are in trouble or Swiss SMART watches are in trouble?

    Also I love how when Apple is in the lead, Samsung is "trailing" with the smaller marketshare. But in an article earlier today no such language is used for global smartphones. Just amusing. I don't care much other than to point out the amusement.
  22. djcerla macrumors 65816


    Apr 23, 2015
    1) battery life WILL improve as Apple moves to 14nm chips; however, not a single time in one year I felt having a 7 days battery life would change anything of the experience.

    2) Hell no. I see (very rare) always-on Android watches and they look like those LED tshirts you wear in a disco in 1998. A double layer technology would be the solution (eInk + AMOLED)

    3) it's actually SLIMMER than a square Tag Heuer Monaco, a very stilish, classic timepiece. Apple will not slim it further.
  23. gugy, Feb 18, 2016
    Last edited: Feb 18, 2016

    gugy macrumors 68030

    Jan 31, 2005
    La Jolla, CA
    IMO the Apple Watch is a toy, sure a nice one. I am looking into getting one to track swimming when a future version is waterproof.
    That said I love my Omega Seamaster. It is a classic watch and I can use it at all times.
    Like me, I think a lot of people will keep or buy analog timepieces. I don't think the Swiss will be worried. Same was said years ago when cheap digital watches came to the market.
    They are just distinct markets. They for sure can coexist.
  24. nooaah macrumors 68000


    Sep 3, 2009
    Philadelphia, PA
    Good for youuu, Jack!

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