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Apple Watch SE 3 and More Seemingly Confirmed by Last-Minute Leak
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This is kinda dumb, basically you saying that 2 years ago at the release of the AW9 it was not future proved, since 2 years later you say the AW9 and the current AW10 are not future proof....
Also what does it need to do any different from the AW1, its the same darn thing for the past 10 generations, its a wrist watch with a very limited amount of watch faces, basic health monitoring options and since the AW5 AOD.
Pickup a AW5 and you do the exact same things as a AW10.
heh, I got tired of waiting for a decent Ultra and just jumped to the Fenix 8 line. The battery life, my gawd...
Same here. Still rocking my stainless steel S6 and waiting for that new design or feature to really make me pull that trigger. But it’s been such a trickle of minor improvements.
When you run out of ideas, you collect and lock the few you have to look better when you show them every few years while you just ride the money train in-between.
So the Ultra 3 is now going to be using the same chip for the last 3 iterations... Lol. There is nothing Ultra about that.
If it did, it would cannibalise the market for the AW11 (and AW10) too much. - Given SE is half the price of the "standard" Apple Watch and both come with aluminum cases, Apple needs to distinguish the two and give incentives for people to pay more.
I imagine you're right. But it means Apple are going to withhold features from the SE3 so they can sell at least some AW11s. So probably no fast charging and no AOD.
Apple's dilemma is that if they make durable, long-living products, there is less motivation to upgrade, unless the product breaks or degrades ( the battery being the obvious obvious example). And then Apple has to rely on new customers to see any significant growth.
Watches a difficulty for Apple - once you have one at it works, for a hell of a lot of people it's not going to matter if it's an SE, a standard watch or an Ultra, and it's also not going to matter that much if it's say, a series 9, 10 or 11. Any of these will do what they are meant to do.
Once everyone who was ever going to buy an Apple Watch, and there's little motivation to upgrade, sales will fall off a cliff ( this has already partially happen to Apple Watches).
The Apple Watch is the closest thing Apple make that's like a Nokia, and Nokia were victims of their own success - they made a mobile (or range of mobiles) that were good enough and long-lasting enough so that people didn't need to upgrade, so they didn't.
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Yes, and this applies to a lot of consumer tech these days ( gaming and AI development being two big exceptions). The "spend more now to future proof" argument doesn't hold up anymore.
The "spend more now because I need more performance / storage etc. now" does hold up. But that's about "now", not the future, and it comes down to what the specific needs of that particular buyer are.
I realize not everyone has an appetite to buy a used product (especially a wearable), but I can find Series 10 cellular in mint condition on Swappa for about $330. So $30 more than a new SE2 with cellular right now.
If there's no AOD for the SE3, gonna be real hard for me to not get a used 10.
That's exactly the situation I'm in. A family member wants an Apple Watch - it's going to be a SE3 or AW10 (new at a discount or second hand), and after tomorrow, I'll know which I'm looking for.
I won't even consider the 11 unless there's something surprising. I've got a 10, I like it, but apart from fast charging and AOD, there's little essential functionality the 10 has over an SE to justify the extra price (for my family member's needs).
Yea if the SE3 doesn’t have fast charge and AOD I’m going Series 10.
I currently have an 8 and it’s fine but I want cellular to leave my phone behind at times.
But I bet the S11 comes in some really fancy new colors! If that's not worth the upgrade, I don't know what is.
The watches might come in fancy new colors, but the s11 will only come in one colour, this colour:
Not quite. In the case of the S series silicon that Apple markets for the Apple watches, it is actually a system in package (SiP) which is basically a compact motherboard which integrates all the various chips, circuits and sensors into a single compact package. The CPU/GPU/NPU chip used in the S9 & S10 (and likely the S11 as well) integrates 2 e-cores, a single GPU core and a 4 core NPU from the A16 design and are all built using TSMC's 4nm process and is exactly the same chip. What changes between generations is other chips and ICs on the SiP which could include newer Wi-Fi, Bluetooth and cellular modem chips as well as updated sensors. While the chip at the heart of the SiP remains the same changing out other components of the chip could allow them to make the SiP more compact (like with the S10), use more efficient baseband chips or introduce new standards or health features.
Thanks for such a good explanation! I really thought they were the same SiP, but the way you explained it, makes it clear that despite all three having A16 components, that’s just one part of the whole SiP, so the S9, S10 and S11 can differ in other smaller components.
I dont really wanna make a thread only for this, but would you all get the AW10 cheaper now after release or just get the AW11? I don't own a AW currently anymore, so I dont upgrade - just buying new. Planning to keep the Watch for several years.