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I'm currently paying a grand total of 0,99€ per MONTH for my unlimited (100 GB fair use) 4G/LTE Free(TM), unlimited voice international/EU roaming subscription in France. 10$ for a second SIM card on the same plan is lauphably expensive.

In case anyone wondered, yes, these figures are real. 100 GB LTE, unlimited everything, 0,99€/month for a year. This is the kind of prices we get here nowadays. It's a promotion, sure, but it's been going of for a couple of years now.

How does Apple expect to attract people with its partnership with Orange is beyond me. Orange are thieves. Orange is for old people who let themselves be robbed because "it's the phone company" from the time there was only one phone company.

Orange gets the worst user experience, with special settings on its modems that flood YouTube videos and websites with ads, whereas Free blocks them by default for instance. Or so it was, last time I had the opportunity to laugh incredulously at someone who had an Orange landline (their daddy was a surgeon).

Orange stealth charges you ******** services like "SMS news flashes" and doesn't ask permission, they just help themselves on you money.

This is the company Apple has chosen to work with exclusively to provide LTE service on their Watch 3...

My Free (bear with me, Free is a provider) plan would set me back some 100€ a month with Orange instead of the 0,99€ I'm paying now. (I'm neither joking NOR exagerating, you can check the prices for yourselves.)

So...

Will I spike the price of my perfectly good LTE plan a ****ING INSANE 12000% just to have a stupid watch that I can't use throughout Europe, or 10 kms from home over the border, say if I cross over the Rhein to go running in Kehl from Strasbourg, and have it poop out on me once its run out its 1h battery ?

I was sold instantly on the concept of a LTE Watch. It was exactly what was missing from the original design of the Apple Watch. But I pay Apple products full price, so as not to deal with foolishness.

This is foolish.
 
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At issue is T-Mobile's ONE plan, which limits both tethering and all wearable devices to 512kb/s. While most users are unlikely to be streaming video or doing other tasks that require high connectivity speeds on the Apple Watch, the Apple Watch is also unlikely to be a data hog, so it's unclear why T-Mobile has this limitation in place.

Unlikely does not mean will not ever be. T-Mobile is putting the limitation in place because they want to ensure they're covered in the event someone find a way to consume large amounts of data with their watch.

No other major carrier in the United States, including Sprint, Verizon, or AT&T appears to be throttling Apple Watch speeds with their standard unlimited plans.
They will once the Apple Watch starts to negatively impact their networks. Then people will cry foul.
 
This makes no sense... First, the series 0-2 used your phone's plan. 3 uses your phone line, so it should just be an expansion of your phone service at nothing more than (at most) an activation fee.

No one is streaming 4k videos to their watch, and if they are playing audio, it's seriously doubtful that that data would be coming from BOTH their watch and phone at the same time. The data is only going to roughly one device, and any overlap isn't a big deal.

They're just afraid of the overuse of data.

Foolish.

I can't comment anymore, I have a call from my watch to my iPhone.
 
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I have that same promotion. Is there a way to switch that paired data on the second phone to the apple watch 3 and still keep it free? I have the apple watch pre-ordered on Bestbuy and not on tmobile cause it was asking me to add a wearable line for $10.
Just put the sim in the apple watch? I dont even know if the watch comes with a sip card slot, but that's what i'd do.
 
Whelp, that just made the decision not to get the Apple Watch easier. Better luck next time, Apple. Make some better deals with the carriers.
 
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Not very happy with T-Mobile right now. Got their Jump on Demand that is supposed to let me upgrade my phone every 30 days if I want to. What they don't tell you is that it should be called Jump on Down Payment. In order to get the new 256GB 8+, its a $279 down payment! Worse yet, my intent was to take advantage of their Jump on Demand and get the 8+ now and then trade it in for the X, once demand caught up. Not only would I have to pay the $279 down payment on the 8+, I'd have to pay the even higher down payment on the X when I get it a few months later. Thats a brand new stainless Apple Watch in down payment fees! A brand new watch that would cost me $10 a month for 3G speeds! Come on T Mobile, get your heads out of your a$$. This is ATT,/Verizon type treatment. Very "un un-carrier". I'm really upset because I've spent the last year singing their praises to everyone, and now I'm the idiot. I guess I'll just hang on to my 7+ till demand settles down on the X and then buy it with Apple installments. Its more per month, but it includes Apple Care, and its cut and dry. Retail divided by 24 months, eligible to turn it in every 12 months. No down payments, or BS. You had a happy customer TMo, but you fixed that.
 
What?!?! You are upset because it's limited to just 512Kb? What in the whole world do you think a smart watch is going to need more than 512kb? You don't need much data for a watch!
 
Unlikely does not mean will not ever be. T-Mobile is putting the limitation in place because they want to ensure they're covered in the event someone find a way to consume large amounts of data with their watch.


They will once the Apple Watch starts to negatively impact their networks. Then people will cry foul.
I can understand your thoughts, but answer me this. The only time you'd use LTE on your watch is when your phone isn't around, right? So what is the difference with finding a way to use a lot of data on your watch, when you could do the same thing with your phone if you had it with you and were forced to because of the 512Kbps limitation?
 
Apple Music use 250Kbps - so it's plenty fast. Spotify uses about 320. For talk, text, etc... plenty enough. No issue.
 
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This should cost 5 bucks a month and no throttling they have enough money to payback their customers’ loyalty in fair pricing.
 
This is why I love T-Mobile. They SAY they listen to their customers.. and it seems like they make a damned good honest-to-goodness effort to do exactly that....
 
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I'm not sure what the other carriers are doing, but T-Mobile is using their Data with Paired Digits plan. This plan has always been limited to 512kb/s. Can this be mitigated by opting for their "High Speed Data with Paired Digits" plan? It is $25/month or $20 with Autopay. It also qualifies for Kickback so if you use less than 2GB/month then it ends up being $10/month for high speed LTE.
Yes you can do that, but $25 per month to access the full speed capability of a watch (which as everyone else said, isn’t going to use that much data) is absolutely absurd.
Should’ve been $5 as an LTE add-on, IMO.
 
What were they thinking? Glad to see they came around. I mean...how much data can a person use on a Watch?! If they included it with your phone plan at no extra charge, that would be one thing. But, at $10 extra per month....?:eek:
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This is why I love T-Mobile. They SAY they listen to their customers.. and it seems like they make a damned good honest-to-goodness effort to do exactly that....
Exactly. Anyone can talk the talk. But, walk the walk....T-Mobile does.
 
I was talking to a t mobile rep on Twitter. They said the $10 fee is if you want your watch to have a different phone number than your phone. To use the watch to make calls using your phones number is free. It’s part of their digits program.


https://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-34411
To add the new LTE Apple Watch, which can make calls, text and use LTE data without being connected to an iPhone, costs $10. As far as I know it must use the DIGITS feature, and does share a phone number. I don't think it's possible to give the watch a phone number different from your iPhone.

T Mobile has dropped the 512kbps throttling, however, so they are on par with At&T, Verizon and Sprint in offering full speed 4G LTE service now.
 
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