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1) thinner
2) faster CPU - still takes a few secs to open apps
3) better raise to wake functionality - I'm still only at like a 70% success rate (but I've only had my S2 for a week)
 
1) thinner
2) faster CPU - still takes a few secs to open apps
3) better raise to wake functionality - I'm still only at like a 70% success rate (but I've only had my S2 for a week)

This isn't an excuse for apple, but you do get the hang of raise to wake and what does and doesn't actually wake it. Further, and more importantly, you will learn the "nose tap". Didn't wake up like you wanted it to and your other hand busy doing whatever (hopefully you're not alone with one busy hand hehe i kid) you just tap your nose to the screen and TADA! hehe I'm in a goofy mood sorry, but I do use this method at least 3-5 times a week usually when laying down haha
 
My point is, Seiko's energy-gathering mechanism is much bigger than what Apple could be expected to fit inside the Watch...
This isn't about how exactly a piece of technology is implemented but about the technology itself. The execution doesn't have to be exactly like Seiko's kinetic system nor the haptic engine. The entire point is to use kinetic energy to regain some of the energy that you use which is what regeneration is about.

Again, no, there's not a good way to add a kinetic charging mechanism to the AW without making it comically FAT. The existing induction coil is far smaller and capable of carrying much more power.
Again you are not understanding things. You are making the big mistake to only look at two current implementations of the technology instead of the technology itself. Also you are failing to understand that this isn't about fully recharging the watch but about regaining part of the energy lost hence the comparison with regenerative braking in electric cars. As things are right now, no system other than a li-ion battery is capable of powering the entire Apple Watch because they don't provide enough energy. What it does do is prolong the battery life in general just as turning off the display does. However, the technology could also be used to just power some basic stuff, perhaps the display so we have an always-on display.

As an example you could take the Fisker Karma. Fisker used solar panels on the roof of the car to power some of the onboard systems because the solar panels didn't provide enough energy to charge the battery.

Or as Apple puts it: think differently. It's about smart ways to regain/reduce energy. Before the haptic engine and force touch nobody here knew it was possible to mimic a physical button with the use of vibrations. They actually used a vibrator and turned it into a system that mimics button presses. They also innovated with the heart rate sensors. I think you are underestimating the capabilities of the engineers and the technology here.

Btw, do not underestimate these kinetic systems, they can provide quite a lot of energy in very little time. They can also take up very little space.
 
Why add the bigger battery if you still have to plop the watch on the charger?

No matter what you put in place of the word "tech", the answer is always going to be the same: to prolong battery life as much as possible. A prolonged battery life makes other things (functionality) possible. In case of the AW2 that would be the GPS and a brighter display. In my previous post I gave an always-on display as an example.
 
And yet they put it in the watch since the very first version ;)
Put "it"? You mean a kinetic charger? Where?

Oh, that tiny little spring-loaded mass that doesn't move freely? Is that what you mean?
 
much faster cpu (bring on the latest um nodes already Apple !)

more sensors. A lot more.

easy ones:

> body temp sensor : fever detector

> solar radiation (uv) sensor : sunburn warning


harder ones:

> skin conductivity / moisture (stress) sensor : breath app trigger --> breathing amplitude / lung sensor

> blood oxymeter (already included but not used) --> better workout tracking


god-tier level :

> non-invasive blood glucose sensor
 
much faster cpu (bring on the latest um nodes already Apple !)

more sensors. A lot more.

easy ones:

> body temp sensor : fever detector

> solar radiation (uv) sensor : sunburn warning


harder ones:

> skin conductivity / moisture (stress) sensor : breath app trigger --> breathing amplitude / lung sensor

> blood oxymeter (already included but not used) --> better workout tracking


god-tier level :

> non-invasive blood glucose sensor
These ideas are great. I'd possibly like it even better if they just opened this functionality up to bands from third parties. Don't know if that'll ever happen.
 
There's work going on in using Raman spectroscopy to non-invasively measure blood glucose levels. There were strong rumors that the first watch would do this but it sadly doesn't even a generation later.
I know Gen 0 HAS the sensors for glucose, but, they couldn't make it work consistently, and/or get FDA approval or something. Are the same sensors still available on Gen 2...or did they remove them?
 
Put "it"? You mean a kinetic charger? Where?

Oh, that tiny little spring-loaded mass that doesn't move freely? Is that what you mean?
We are talking about the Apple Watch, not an automatic watch. Do try to keep up and do keep things civil and on topic.

This is all about mixing realism with a bit of fantasising. I just feel sorry for you that you are incapable of doing that and simply can't see beyond the current design and internals of the Apple Watch. If Apple were to do that then there wouldn't even be an Apple Watch.
 
We are talking about the Apple Watch, not an automatic watch. Do try to keep up and do keep things civil and on topic.

This is all about mixing realism with a bit of fantasising. I just feel sorry for you that you are incapable of doing that and simply can't see beyond the current design and internals of the Apple Watch. If Apple were to do that then there wouldn't even be an Apple Watch.

The picture I posted was not of an automatic self-winding mechanical watch. It was of Seiko's Kinetic charging mechanism for their battery-powered quartz watches. It has a spinning weight which drives a tiny electric generator, and its output gets stored in a rechargeable cell.

Keeping in mind that the AW uses much more power than a simple quartz watch, you can figure that such a large mechanism won't have enough spunk to be worth cramming into the AW case.
 
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