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I don’t even know why Gruber reviews Apple Watch as he rarely wears one. He’s clearly not a fan, which is perfectly fine. Does he feel he has to review every product Apple releases?
That’s an odd conclusion to jump to. If you read Gruber’s post it’s abundantly clear that he has deep respect and admiration for the Apple Watch and that it shares time on his wrist with the analogue timepieces that he loved and owned before the AW came out. And based on his review I wouldn’t be surprised if the percentage of days he wears Apple Watch 5 doesn’t go up.
 
I never ever wanted an always on display but since my series 3 is broken I am going for the new watch on Fri. I hope you can turn the always-on off to save on battery..
 
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It doesn’t sound like it will give you a lot of additional battery and regarding the privacy it’s really not something that should hold you back. There’s even a privacy setting if you’re really worried people stare at your watch and see when your next appointment is



You should see how it actually works before commenting on it. Watch the Vector review of it. He walks thoroughly through the settings for it
I agree. I used to get upset by yahoos that complained about movies before they were even out, or bitched about new phones before they ever used them. But now, it no longer surprises me that there is a consistent segment of the population that insists on getting their noses bent out of shape by things they haven’t seen, touched, reviewed, or verified in any way. Haters gonna hate, bitchers gonna bitch, whiners gonna whine.
 
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IMO Apple is keeping out AOD from the series 4 on purpose. Take away AOD and there is nothing major about the series 5. I don’t get it, Samsung has had watches with AOD for a while now, Apple is just withholding features, and this is coming from an iPhone and AW series 4 owner.

That being said the raise to wake works pretty well even with subtle movements.
 
cool.

can your rolex track your heart rate? detect your EKG? tell you how many calories you burned? notify you of texts? MAKE phone calls?

you're comparing apples to oranges here. while they both are "watches," they couldn't be more different. there's a place in this world for both.

Yep, I put my 2 fingers on my wrist or my neck and count for 15 seconds, I don't need an EKG, if I do I will go to a hospital and rely on state of the art equipment and doctors which is what you will have to do anyways if your watch or body gives you a signal, so it is not significant. I watch (no pun intended) what I eat and get exercise so I have no need to see how many calories I've burned or consumed. It is not made for texting nor phone calls but hey I've managed to live a pretty fine life for 27 years without those capabilities affecting me in the least... you are correct, there is a place for both, my point was about Apple solving their biggest complaint.
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I have literally no interest in a Rolex because all it does it tell time, but I'm really happy for you!
Thanks, I needed your affirmation to feel better about my comment.... not sure what it has to do with always on display though??
 
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Awesome!

How is it as a running watch, providing heartrate, pace, and logging the GPS track of your run?

Does it also show your position on a map while you're out on the lake in your fishing kayak?

It works fine running, swimming, diving, racing, in fact it never has to come off my wrist for any activity.... I've never really been out on a lake that large that I am lost and need to know where I am but I guess that's just because I have mapping skills that were taught to me in school way, way back... still wondering how this relates to an always on mode and battery life, which your trusty Apple watch will be useless for when it runs out??????
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I love my Rolex's - Stainless Steel Submariner I bought myself and the other is a gold and stainless steel Date Just that my father gave to me before he passed - but I have to admit I rarely wear either one since the Apple Watch Series 4 purchase - I'll never sale them as my son will get them when he can appreciate what they are.

The same will follow here, my son will get mine down the line... nice to hear that and I am sure he will!!
 
I legitimately do not understand the people clamoring for 24 hour or multi-day battery life.

My watch is on the charger for about 45 minutes before I got to bed, and about 30 minutes in the morning (while I'm having breakfast/showering). I wear it at night for sleep tracking and during the day. It is generally at 100% charge when I put it on at night/in the morning after both of those charging sessions.
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What? You're saying that in five years people's opinions aren't allowed to change?
To me multi-day battery would only come handy on business trips. Otherwise ai charge it every bight.
 
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How this local emergency calling feature isn’t software based and not available to older models?

because different countries use different 'bands' and the cellular radio in the S4 doesn't support as many as the new radio they used in S5. So it is very much a hardware limitation of the S4.
 
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I don’t see a reason to upgrade every time anyway. I have a series 2. It’s fine. It does what it needs to do. Same with my Mac, iPad, iPhone. As long as they function, in most cases well over 3 or 4 years, I see absolutely no need to replace.
 
I rarely use my apple watch as a watch.. I look at my phone for the time usually. the apple watch is useful for things like notifications, quick replies and the like. Oh and its great for contactless payments.. particularly in places like the beach where you don't want to be fishing out your wallet from deep within your beach bag.

honestly I don't know why everyone is clamoring for an AOD..

Then don’t upgrade, if you are happy with your present watch. Enjoy ;)
 
LOL!

Except that’s not true.

Notifications are hidden and you can disable sensitive complications so they don’t show in the always on mode.
Do you know more about notifications being hidden? this is actually my primary concern- how notifications work with the always on display. I love turning the sound off and only having a subtle tap on my wrist when I get a notification. I do not want the notification to show up until I raise my wrist to look at it, particularly in always on display mode. Any comments about how notifications are interacted with with the new AOD would be super helpful!
 
I find amazing people saying "I NEED the always on display". Really? You NEED that?? I seriously just need to tilt my arm to see the display of the Series 4. Thus, AOD is a nice to have but not a NEED in my view. Not a NEED that would cost me $449 plus tax since Apple only pays $100 for my in perfect condition Series 4.
Needing frequently two free hands to see your watch is somewhat of a downside. I do frequently need a second hand to tap on my watch for the display to light up. Whereas I almost never need two hands to view something on my phone. And since I wear way more than half of the time long sleeves, needing to push up the sleeve with the other hand comes on top of that.
 
A lot of people very happy about Always-On display, their first question...are you able to turn it off! Lol
There is always Theater Mode.

I have mapping skills that were taught to me in school way, way back.
I've always wondered what those 'mapping skills' are that one needs to learn. That the top of the map is North (and that the sun rises in the East and sets in the West)? That the continuous lines indicate elevation? That the scale indicates how many (milli)metres in real life are represented by one millimetre on the map?

I'm not trying to be snarky with that. It is just that when I hear reports like "young people today don't know anymore how to read a map", I don't understand what that means. How is it possible not to be able to read a map?

Even more complex tasks like using landmarks and a compass to determine your location on a map via triangulation should be something everybody should be able to figure out by themselves without any prior knowledge.
 
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It works fine running, swimming, diving, racing, in fact it never has to come off my wrist for any activity.... I've never really been out on a lake that large that I am lost and need to know where I am but I guess that's just because I have mapping skills that were taught to me in school way, way back...

So in other words, no it doesn't fulfill any of those objectives - it just sits there and tells you the time of day. Which frankly isn't something I'd need either on a run or while out on the kayak.

Just like any $10 Walmart watch.

Kinda seems like a waste of money if you ask me. :)

still wondering how this relates to an always on mode and battery life,
You're the one bringing up a simple mechanical watch in an Apple Watch thread. 🤷‍♂️
 
very interesting because i always hear how the apple watch is a fantastic device and see it everywhere!

must not be talking to much people i guess ;)

Hahaha ah yes the classic “if you don’t have the same experience I do you must be doing it wrong” line of thinking.

Seriously though: What feature(s) are people raving about? I was honestly curious — not being snarky — I’m about 60% on the “buy this model” side of the fence, but am still figuring out what features will be life changing and which sound neat but will never get used.
 
Hahaha ah yes the classic “if you don’t have the same experience I do you must be doing it wrong” line of thinking.

Seriously though: What feature(s) are people raving about? I was honestly curious — not being snarky — I’m about 60% on the “buy this model” side of the fence, but am still figuring out what features will be life changing and which sound neat but will never get used.

I posted the following in another thread. Some of my thoughts as to how the Apple Watch has enabled a paradigm shift in respect to my phone. Perhaps it will be helpful to you.

I'll start by saying each to their own. The following is just food for thought.

I became introduced to smart watch functions when they started adding them to Garmin running watches. I ended up migrating over to an Apple Watch beginning with the S2. Being able to leave my phone behind and go for a run, playing music from the watch to my bluetooth headphones, as well as having cellular connectivity in case needed, was an incentive to give it a go.

Over time I've found having the watch created a paradigm shift in how I use my phone.

I can glance at my watch to see my next meeting / appointment, or tap it to see the day's lineup. My phone stays in my pocket.

I get a text from someone, I can open it on my watch and even make a brief acknowledgment or reply. My phone stays in my pocket.

When I'm cooking up something in the kitchen and up to my elbows and get a phone call, I can see who's calling and answer it if I wish - even having a brief convo Dick Tracy style if I'm alone. If my hands were dirty I just wash off the watch as I wash my hands. My phone stays on the Qi charger on the counter on the other side of the kitchen.

Sitting in my comfy chair in the living room watching tv or reading a book, when I get a phone call I can see who it is and decide whether or not to take the call. My phone stays on the Qi charger on the counter in the kitchen.

When I'm out walking the dogs and think of something I need to do later or something that needs to go on the grocery list, a quick raise of my wrist and a Hey Siri and the reminder is set or the item is added to the grocery list. My phone stays on the Qi charger on the counter in the kitchen.

Walking through the grocery store, I bring up the grocery list in the Reminders app on my watch. I can check off items as I put them in my buggy. My phone stays in my pocket.

These are just a few examples of how my phone usage is different from "before" when my phone already did everything for me. :)
 
Well guess what, LTE is still only available in 26 countries. I see little point in buying one if I still have to carry my phone with me all the time. I asked my local carrier about it, they said it's definitely not gonna happen this year. And they've already been supporting eSIM since the iPhone XR launch last year. I just don't understand what's blocking this from happening. Most likely politics.

In any case, Apple needs to up their game with LTE rollout, until then, I refuse to buy a Watch.
 
Strange! I have not been tempted by an Apple Watch thus far but this one was the first one to make me sit up and take notice. Most of my feelings about it are stated within this video, looked at from the perspective of a high-end watch specialist.
 
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What part of 'notifications are not shown in always-on mode' do you need to know more on?
Have you used the watch yet? Or read a review where it covers the user interface for this? It’s a shift in the way you interact with the watch and there are about three or four different implementations that Apple could have gone with for how to implement it. Does the watch tap you, then when you raise the wrist the notification is present as if the screen is coming on in the original series, or do you need to check notifications from swiping from the top? Or does it present as long as the screen is tapped? I’m asking how they implemented it, and until someone has worn the watch, or a reviewer has talked about this specific question, I think the topic is a legitimate area to ask about wrt how the S5 works.

You’re super cheery on here this morning! Sniping at every single person you respond to. Hope you have a good day!
 
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The s3 still has near identical battery life for me. The only reason I’d want to upgrade is for the s4 watch faces which could totally be tweaked for the s3 models if they wanted to.
 
Well guess what, LTE is still only available in 26 countries. I see little point in buying one if I still have to carry my phone with me all the time.
What features of the Watch that you might consider useful require internet access in situations where you might want to go without the phone?
I asked my local carrier about it, they said it's definitely not gonna happen this year. And they've already been supporting eSIM since the iPhone XR launch last year. I just don't understand what's blocking this from happening. Most likely politics.

In any case, Apple needs to up their game with LTE rollout, until then, I refuse to buy a Watch.
It also depends on which LTE bands the Watch supports:
  • The Series 3 and 4 support a total of 18 LTE bands
    A1860: _, 2, _, 4, 5, _, _, 12, 13, 17, 18, 19, __, 25, 26, __, __, 41
    A1889: 1, _, 3, _, 5, 7, 8, __, __, __, 18, 19, 20, __, 26, __, __, __
    A1890: 1, _, 3, _, _, _, _, __, __, __, __, __, __, __, __, 39, 40, 41

  • The Series 5 supports a total of 19 LTE bands
    A2094: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, _, 12, 13, 17, 18, 19, __, 25, 26, 39, 40, 41, 66
    A2156: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, __, __, __, 18, 19, 20, 25, 26, 39, 40, 41, 66
The Series 3/4 split that into an American, a European and a Chinese model. The Series 5 not only added the bands unique to the Chinese model (39, 40) to both the American and European models (removing the need for a Chinese model).

It also added two of the four bands unique to the European model (3, 7) to the American model and three of the six bands unique the American model (2, 4, 25) to the European model. And finally it added a new band (66) to both remaining models.

In terms of total number of bands it adds only a little bit but it makes the two remaining models noticeably more compatible globally.
 
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