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I bought an Apple Watch Series 7 for my girlfriend, and it constantly gets stuck during the pairing process, specifically the logging in to Apple account part.

I've already tried restarting both devices. Still have problems.

Any solutions?
 

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Are you setting up as new? Does the watch show up under Bluetooth devices on the phone? At which step exactly does it get stuck?
I was able to get it paired, but it took multiple restarts on both devices.
Another lousy experience from Apple.
 

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This happened to my daughter on her Series 4 yesterday. It always got stuck when signing into her iCloud account. She killed the pairing process like 4 or 5 times and it finally worked. It took her about 6 hours total to get it to work. I think it was a problem with Apple’s server side processes.
 

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This happened to my daughter on her Series 4 yesterday. It always got stuck when signing into her iCloud account. She killed the pairing process like 4 or 5 times and it finally worked. It took her about 6 hours total to get it to work. I think it was a problem with Apple’s server side processes.
Do you think this is an appropriate service quality for a $3 trillion company selling expensive gear?
 

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It seems like in your opinion, Apple and everything they ship and do suck. So why not sell all your Apple devices, never buy one again and be happy? ?‍♂️
I'm stuck with them for 1-3 years.
I'm just lucky that I'm no longer doing more intensive and advanced work on my computer. If all I'm doing is web-browsing and checking email, then Macs are tolerable despite the choppy performance.
I'm just stating that Windows is more optimized than MacOS. Shame how a 5nm processor gets beaten out by a 14 nm CPU and GPU.
 

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I'm stuck with them for 1-3 years.
I'm just lucky that I'm no longer doing more intensive and advanced work on my computer. If all I'm doing is web-browsing and checking email, then Macs are tolerable despite the choppy performance.
I'm just stating that Windows is more optimized than MacOS. Shame how a 5nm processor gets beaten out by a 14 nm CPU and GPU.
Why are you stuck with them for 1-3 years? Also, if every device you bought wqs slow and sucked, why didn't you return any of it? Or did you?
 

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Why are you stuck with them for 1-3 years? Also, if every device you bought wqs slow and sucked, why didn't you return any of it? Or did you?
I bought the iPhone 13 Pro Max for my mom and one of my girlfriends, and they're hardcore Apple fans.
As for me, I got the 13 Pro for free under certain stipulations (One of them being that I have to use the phone for 3 years).
I returned my M1 Mac mini, because the performance was trash and it didn't support hiDPI on sub-4K external monitors. I bought an iMac. Performance was better, but still not as smooth as Windows.

Let's say Apple was telling the truth and that the M1 is better than the i5-8400 with GTX 1050 ti. Then that would mean MacOS is completely inefficient compared to Windows. Windows 10 and 11 can web browse 4chan on its Christmas theme at 3440 x 1440p @ 144 hz without a single frame drop. The M1 Mac, on the other hand, is lag city.
 

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@AppleShareholder you clearly state in your posts and your signature that you dislike Apple products, specifically Apple Silicon. You also say that you have $10 million invested in TSLA - that should be more than enough for a decent Android and Windows computer.
I am not going to sell TSLA ever.

I only have $10,000 in emergency cash right now, so despite my $10 M net worth, I still have to budget when making large purchases. I have a $240K income, but I max out my 401K, pay my mortgage, any bills ensure that my emergency cash pile is at $10K, and then put any remaining cash into TSLA. Every dollar I spend buying discretionary goods and not invested into TSLA is a $20 loss in my eyes. I expect TSLA to 20X by end of this decade or middle of next decade.
 

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If you still need help with Apple Watch try this: On your Apple Watch, hold the Digital Crown and tap Reset. On your iPhone, head to Settings > General > iPhone Storage and check for the watchOS update. If you see it, delete it by swiping left. Then try pairing your watch again.
 

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I am not going to sell TSLA ever.

I only have $10,000 in emergency cash right now, so despite my $10 M net worth, I still have to budget when making large purchases. I have a $240K income, but I max out my 401K, pay my mortgage, any bills ensure that my emergency cash pile is at $10K, and then put any remaining cash into TSLA. Every dollar I spend buying discretionary goods and not invested into TSLA is a $20 loss in my eyes. I expect TSLA to 20X by end of this decade or middle of next decade.
Other than valuing TSLA at over the entire GDP of the USA, having your entire net worth in one stock, having 100% single stock exposure in your portfolio, and keeping an emergency fund that's a tenth of one percent of your net worth, you're doing great champ! Tell your multiple girlfriends that I say hello. We all have our own stuff to deal with, I hope you get the therapy you need
 

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So what are you trying to do here? Convert us to Windows or Android? Make us buy TSLA? Tell us how much you’re worth? Annoy everyone with your ranting?
I'm trying to talk about issues I've encountered in my Apple products.

so why did you buy your girlfriend an AW?
It has nothing to do with features or functionality and everything to do with fashion. Apple products are the "it" thing right now. It's like asking why girls buy $2000 Louis Vuitton bags when a $20 bag can do the same thing. Girls like to buy whatever is hot at the moment.

Other than valuing TSLA at over the entire GDP of the USA, having your entire net worth in one stock, having 100% single stock exposure in your portfolio, and keeping an emergency fund that's a tenth of one percent of your net worth, you're doing great champ! Tell your multiple girlfriends that I say hello. We all have our own stuff to deal with, I hope you get the therapy you need

GDP and valuation are 2 separate things. The global GDP is $80 Trillion while total Net Worth is $510 Trillion.
It is obvious to me that Tesla will become the 21st century Standard Oil that will dominate the automotive, transportation, AI, energy and robotics sectors.
Concentrating your wealth into 1 asset isn't as stupid as you're implying. If you know what you're doing, then there is little reason to diversify. Warren Buffet and Charlie Munger are anti-diversification.
 
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GDP and valuation are 2 separate things. The global GDP is $80 Trillion while total Net Worth is $510 Trillion.
It is obvious to me that Tesla will become the 21st century Standard Oil that will dominate the automotive, transportation, AI, energy and robotics sectors.
Concentrating your wealth into 1 asset isn't as stupid as you're implying. If you know what you're doing, then there is little reason to diversify. Warren Buffet and Charlie Munger are anti-diversification.
If you haven't already, do yourself a huge favor and cash out 100 shares to actually buy a Tesla with FSD. Give it a couple tens of thousands of miles and then tell me that Tesla has any kind of sustainable lead in EVs, AI, battery tech. Don't get me wrong, I think the Model 3 Performance is the best value vehicle on the road right now (obviously this is totally subjective). But it and the company have some huge issues and market their competitive advantage as much greater than it exists in reality. I also think interpreting Buffett (or Buffet, as you call him) and Munger's value investing philosophy as supporting evidence for yoloing your entire net worth into one speculative stock is dubious at best. Making a value buy means you understand the company and industry (you seem to be valuing TSLA's marketing rather than researching their product first-hand which with $10 million you should have no issue doing), the company has a competitive moat (they have multiple, but none large and none sustainable), the company is managed responsibly (see Elon's yolo into and then un-yolo out of Bitcoin, and encyclopedia of broken promises), and is at an attractive price (read: not at a 350 PE ratio).

If that's too abstract, here's something more concrete. Tesla has been touting the Model 3 as "hardware complete" for FSD since, I want to say, 2016 (don't quote me on that - it's around there). If you buy a brand new Model 3 right now, in 2022, you’ll have a car whose only side camera visibility is from the pillar behind the driver. So even if we assume the driving AI is perfect, flawless in every way, the only way the car can physically see around a tight corner with poor visibility is pull several feet further forward so that the camera on the pillar behind you is where your eyeballs would be if you leaned forward in the driver's seat to see around that corner. This places the car squarely in the intersection and, predictably, squarely in the path of other vehicles that have the right of way and have a significant chance of hitting you given that your car is driving out of a poorly visible intersecting road. There is simply no way to deliver on FSD for such a vehicle - it's physically impossible. Tesla will never admit this, they'll likely just pay out a tiny class action settlement when the time comes, but does that sound like a leader in AI? I forget if Tesla packages this as part of FSD or not, but the car's driver assistance features such as lane centered cruise control (which almost all other brands offer now, including on much more affordable ICE cars) are incapable of recognizing and braking for a brightly lit up and flashing emergency vehicle on the highway. It just plows into it. Meanwhile, LIDAR has been developed (which Elon has already spoken out against) at a cost of $1k/car that can identify and successfully brake for a small child running in front of the car at night. Something that a car which can't identify a 25-ton firetruck stopped in the road with lights on certainly isn't able to do.
 

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If you haven't already, do yourself a huge favor and cash out 100 shares to actually buy a Tesla with FSD. Give it a couple tens of thousands of miles and then tell me that Tesla has any kind of sustainable lead in EVs, AI, battery tech. Don't get me wrong, I think the Model 3 Performance is the best value vehicle on the road right now (obviously this is totally subjective). But it and the company have some huge issues and market their competitive advantage as much greater than it exists in reality. I also think interpreting Buffett (or Buffet, as you call him) and Munger's value investing philosophy as supporting evidence for yoloing your entire net worth into one speculative stock is dubious at best. Making a value buy means you understand the company and industry (you seem to be valuing TSLA's marketing rather than researching their product first-hand which with $10 million you should have no issue doing), the company has a competitive moat (they have multiple, but none large and none sustainable), the company is managed responsibly (see Elon's yolo into and then un-yolo out of Bitcoin, and encyclopedia of broken promises), and is at an attractive price (read: not at a 350 PE ratio).

If that's too abstract, here's something more concrete. Tesla has been touting the Model 3 as "hardware complete" for FSD since, I want to say, 2016 (don't quote me on that - it's around there). If you buy a brand new Model 3 right now, in 2022, you’ll have a car whose only side camera visibility is from the pillar behind the driver. So even if we assume the driving AI is perfect, flawless in every way, the only way the car can physically see around a tight corner with poor visibility is pull several feet further forward so that the camera on the pillar behind you is where your eyeballs would be if you leaned forward in the driver's seat to see around that corner. This places the car squarely in the intersection and, predictably, squarely in the path of other vehicles that have the right of way and have a significant chance of hitting you given that your car is driving out of a poorly visible intersecting road. There is simply no way to deliver on FSD for such a vehicle - it's physically impossible. Tesla will never admit this, they'll likely just pay out a tiny class action settlement when the time comes, but does that sound like a leader in AI? I forget if Tesla packages this as part of FSD or not, but the car's driver assistance features such as lane centered cruise control (which almost all other brands offer now, including on much more affordable ICE cars) are incapable of recognizing and braking for a brightly lit up and flashing emergency vehicle on the highway. It just plows into it. Meanwhile, LIDAR has been developed (which Elon has already spoken out against) at a cost of $1k/car that can identify and successfully brake for a small child running in front of the car at night. Something that a car which can't identify a 25-ton firetruck stopped in the road with lights on certainly isn't able to do.
lol... Are you upset you missed out on TSLA?
What do you think Tesla's Q4 2021 earnings will be and what will their PE ratio be post-earnings?
Why do you think a company who's growing 50+% YoY with profit increasing even faster due to operating leverage should have a lower PE ratio ($700 Million Net Income in 2020 and $5-6 Billion Net Income in 2021 on a 50-60% revenue growth)?
Do you think Tesla's Operating Margin of 14.6% is unimpressive considering that they're still in the beginning stages of ramp-up and Toyota's Op Margin is only at 9-10%?
What do you suppose Q4 2021's operating margins will be? Several respected members in the Tesla investment community such as The Accountant believe Operating Margins will be ~18%, putting them at almost double Toyota's.
If you actually do the calculations and extrapolate out into the 2030s, you'll find that Tesla is still unbelievably cheap at its current valuations.
Even if you discount the entire FSD product, Tesla would have profits that dwarf Apple's 10 years down the line. Do the calculations. Don't just repeat what TSLA bears are saying. Actually do them.

You're going to be in for a rude awakening this decade as FSD continues to improve. I suggest you watch Chuck Chock's videos on unprotected left turns and how it's been improving over the past year. The rate of progress has been phenomenal. And I'm saying this as someone who was originally skeptical about the feasibility of FSD. I actually believe it's a solvable problem now with vision only. Other companies that use LIDAR have a piece of garbage pre-mapped solution that will never scale. My way of thinking is like this: If FSD is truly possible, then Tesla's vision-only approach is the only way it can work, so why bank on other companies solving it?
 
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lol... Are you upset you missed out on TSLA?
What do you think Tesla's Q4 2021 earnings will be and what will their PE ratio be post-earnings?
Why do you think a company who's growing 50+% YoY with profit increasing even faster due to operating leverage should have a lower PE ratio ($700 Million Net Income in 2020 and $5-6 Billion Net Income in 2021 on a 50-60% revenue growth)?
Do you think Tesla's Operating Margin of 14.6% is unimpressive considering that they're still in the beginning stages of ramp-up and Toyota's Op Margin is only at 9-10%?
What do you suppose Q4 2021's operating margins will be? Several respected members in the Tesla investment community such as The Accountant believe Operating Margins will be ~18%, putting them at almost double Toyota's.
If you actually do the calculations and extrapolate out into the 2030s, you'll find that Tesla is still unbelievably cheap at its current valuations.
Even if you discount the entire FSD product, Tesla would have profits that dwarf Apple's 10 years down the line. Do the calculations. Don't just repeat what TSLA bears are saying. Actually do them.

You're going to be in for a rude awakening this decade as FSD continues to improve. I suggest you watch Chuck Chock's videos on unprotected left turns and how it's been improving over the past year. The rate of progress has been phenomenal. And I'm saying this as someone who was originally skeptical about the feasibility of FSD. I actually believe it's a solvable problem now with vision only. Other companies that use LIDAR have a piece of garbage pre-mapped solution that will never scale. My way of thinking is like this: If FSD is truly possible, then Tesla's vision-only approach is the only way it can work, so why bank on other companies solving it?
clearly you did not come here to look for help but just to rant, and I guess that is your right, but then going off on tangents and making comments like you do clearly shows that posts #16 and 17 were spot on ... I learned my lesson and you won't see any responses on any of your posts in the future
 
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