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Great...you've identified a feature/benefit that a vast majority of the population will never use. That's not going to be the way to sell me the watch.
 
Great...you've identified a feature/benefit that a vast majority of the population will never use. That's not going to be the way to sell me the watch.

Agree that this doesn't apply to the majority of folks out there (thankfully) but it's not really a "feature" of the watch. It's basically just another app. Even if I don't buy an Apple Watch the integration with my iPhone is still very exciting news for CGM users.

If you had a dead pancreas you would understand :)
 
What about BoHB monitoring?

I fondly hope the company is looking for tech to monitor β-Hydroxybutyrate (ketone body) concentrations in the bloodstream. This is very similar to a glucose monitor, but simply monitoring the molarity of a different molecule. BoHB concentrations is the way to monitor ketogenic adaptation on a LCHF diet. :cool:
 
I fondly hope the company is looking for tech to monitor β-Hydroxybutyrate (ketone body) concentrations in the bloodstream. This is very similar to a glucose monitor, but simply monitoring the molarity of a different molecule. BoHB concentrations is the way to monitor ketogenic adaptation on a LCHF diet. :cool:

Not sure if Dexcom will ever integrate this into their sensor or not (my guess not, but you never know). I still test ketones (when necessary) the old fashioned way.
 
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Can you post a picture of how it looks in your arm? I am kind of curious myself.

Sure. It's in my thigh right now though. I put on the back of my arms, my thighs, back of my calves. Pic is of the sensor enclosure (clear plastic) and the transmitter (gray). The transmitter pops off and clips into the next sensor I insert. The new G5 transmitter will be the one that will have BT built in which will beam my numbers to the iPhone/Apple Watch.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the pic and info. I really hope that non invasive monitoring will be here soon.
 
This is fantastic news for T1's out there like myself. I will buy an Apple Watch just for this functionality.

Same here... I already use the Dexcom, and I think it'll have to use the $299 attachment for it.

The sensor uses the ANT+ protocol, and the iPhone doesn't communicate on that. There have already been hackers out there that have done it with some Android phones that do use ANT+ (used in bicycle telemetry systems too, akin to Bluetooth 4.0)

There is other good news that I have heard is that the G5 (the next generation of Dexcom transmitters) will use Bluetooth Low Power for the transmission of the data, making it available to go directly to the iPhone.

For diabetics out there, Dexcom rocks! I have used the Minimed one, and let's just say that Minimed is most interested in Minimed. The sensor is like a harpoon going into your stomach, and they come out without adding all kinds of tape to your abdomen. Dexcom looks to be interested in the customers, and it shows in their engineering.

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Not sure if Dexcom will ever integrate this into their sensor or not (my guess not, but you never know). I still test ketones (when necessary) the old fashioned way.
The Dexcom measures the subcutaneous tissue fluids, and not the bloodstream. I don't know if that changes things with the ketones, but it may provide some clarity as to the use of the Dexcom.
 
Same here... I already use the Dexcom, and I think it'll have to use the $299 attachment for it.

The sensor uses the ANT+ protocol, and the iPhone doesn't communicate on that. There have already been hackers out there that have done it with some Android phones that do use ANT+ (used in bicycle telemetry systems too, akin to Bluetooth 4.0)

There is other good news that I have heard is that the G5 (the next generation of Dexcom transmitters) will use Bluetooth Low Power for the transmission of the data, making it available to go directly to the iPhone.

For diabetics out there, Dexcom rocks! I have used the Minimed one, and let's just say that Minimed is most interested in Minimed. The sensor is like a harpoon going into your stomach, and they come out without adding all kinds of tape to your abdomen. Dexcom looks to be interested in the customers, and it shows in their engineering.

Dexcom is an excellent company and doing great things for diabetics. As mentioned in previous posts the G5 sensor has BT built in which will communicate with the iPhone App.

The $299 Share attachment you reference is a cloud based solution that pushes data to up to 5 devices (think parents remotely monitoring kids here). This will not be required for the iPhone/Watch integration once the G5 sensor is available.
 
Here's your quandary.
You're diabetic. You have a blood glucose test unit for £10.00

You can continue using it like you always have done or spend £400 on a watch(!) to do the same thing.

Or.

You're not diabetic. But have a sudden interest in monitoring your blood sugar or other people's - now the Apple Watch has come out.

Either way. Go for the former option. Honestly. It'll save you much money. £390 more money. Sorted! Next problem?

Um, a regular blood glucose meter only tells you your blood sugar when you actually use it, perhaps a few times a day. It doesn't tell you what's going on in between those times. A continuous glucose monitor is, as the name suggests, continuous. That's easily worth a few hundred dollars.
 
Dexcom is an excellent company and doing great things for diabetics. As mentioned in previous posts the G5 sensor has BT built in which will communicate with the iPhone App.

The $299 Share attachment you reference is a cloud based solution that pushes data to up to 5 devices (think parents remotely monitoring kids here). This will not be required for the iPhone/Watch integration once the G5 sensor is available.
I was thinking that this would be for the G4, since the G5 isn't out yet, and using the Share to communicate with the watch/iPhone. I'm getting one of those for my wife, so she can track me remotely as well.

My engineering mind was thinking that the Share is simply an ANT+ to BT4 converter (as it were), so nearly all phones can use it.
 
I was thinking that this would be for the G4, since the G5 isn't out yet, and using the Share to communicate with the watch/iPhone. I'm getting one of those for my wife, so she can track me remotely as well.

My engineering mind was thinking that the Share is simply an ANT+ to BT4 converter (as it were), so nearly all phones can use it.

agree. G5 slated to be out very soon.
 
Here's your quandary.
You're diabetic. You have a blood glucose test unit for £10.00

You can continue using it like you always have done or spend £400 on a watch(!) to do the same thing.

Or.

You're not diabetic. But have a sudden interest in monitoring your blood sugar or other people's - now the Apple Watch has come out.

Either way. Go for the former option. Honestly. It'll save you much money. £390 more money. Sorted! Next problem?
Here's another quandary:

You're not a diabetic, so your pancreas works, and you have a closed loop system to control your blood sugar. You decide, tonight, to eat a piece of cake with 39g of carbohydrates, and then go to sleep. You wake up, and your blood sugar is 72 +/- 10 mg/dl.

or

You are a T1 diabetic, and so you have to do all of those calculations in your head, or your insulin pump, but in the interest of saving money, you use shots and regular/NPH insulin, instead of a pump ($7000, plus $40/week in supplies and insulin) and a CGM ($1400, plus $50/week), supplied by Dexcom, since Apple isn't making a CGM, just a watch to see the results of that CGM on the watch. You wake up (or not) with blood sugar between 30 and 400, because your carb:insulin ratio didn't take into account the stress you had remembering the foxtrot on the dance floor, the dawn effect, the syringe you used didn't have the resolution needed to give yourself 4.8 units, or that the NPH kicked in after the sugar wore off of that cake, or some reason you didn't take into account, like over/underestimating the carb/fat/protein ratios and the glycemic index of that cake and your body.

Oh yeah, that 10 quid was for the meter. The test strips are still $1/ea for the OneTouch Brand. The meter companies don't lose money, and the meter is a loss leader. Ever try to get the Bayer meter to read a OneTouch Strip?

Come over to my house. I'll let you walk a mile in my shoes.

NOTE: Bruce did apologize for his post. My apologies for this rant after his apology.
 
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WAIT WHAT??? you get 20+ days out of yours? I use a different brand of CGM, but I am supposed to change mine every three days. At best they last for 6 days.

People should understand that these CGMs are NOT accurate. They demonstrate trends fairly well, but it's not too uncommon for them to be off by 100%
I used the Dexcom with my Minimed Paradigm pump. Carried the pump in one pocket, and the CGM in the other.

Once you go Dexcom, you never look back.
 
Here's another quandary:

You're not a diabetic, so your pancreas works, and you have a closed loop system to control your blood sugar. You decide, tonight, to eat a piece of cake with 39g of carbohydrates, and then go to sleep. You wake up, and your blood sugar is 72 +/- 10 mg/dl.

or

You are a T1 diabetic, and so you have to do all of those calculations in your head, or your insulin pump, but in the interest of saving money to appease Bruce, you use shots and regular/NPH insulin, instead of a pump ($7000, plus $40/week in supplies and insulin) and a CGM ($1400, plus $50/week), supplied by Dexcom, since Apple isn't making a CGM, just a watch to see the results of that CGM on the watch. You wake up (or not) with blood sugar between 30 and 400, because your carb:insulin ratio didn't take into account the stress you had remembering the foxtrot on the dance floor, the dawn effect, the syringe you used didn't have the resolution needed to give yourself 4.8 units, or that the NPH kicked in after the sugar wore off of that cake, or some reason you didn't take into account, like over/underestimating the carb/fat/protein ratios and the glycemic index of that cake and your body.

Oh yeah, that 10 quid was for the meter. The test strips are still $1/ea for the OneTouch Brand. The meter companies don't lose money, and the meter is a loss leader. Ever try to get the Bayer meter to read a OneTouch Strip?

Come over to my house. I'll let you walk a mile in my shoes.

In Bruce's defense he did admit earlier that he was wrong in his comments :)
 
Clickbait unfortunately. Was really hoping they were going down the monitoring through the skin method. This is just an app. Meh.
 
Clickbait unfortunately. Was really hoping they were going down the monitoring through the skin method. This is just an app. Meh.

Hardly call it clickbait and Apple is good but not THAT good. Lol. As mentioned previous a transcutaneous glucose monitor does not exist.

Not "meh" to me and others using Dexcom, but admittedly it will only apply to a very small population of users.
 
In Bruce's defense he did admit earlier that he was wrong in his comments :)
I didn't make the connection.

To Bruce, sorry for ranting off on you; I'll put an apology in one of your posts to the same effect, so when you log in, you see the notification.

Mike,

One thing I was worried about was having the Dexcom in the arms/legs/somewhere there isn't a lot of fat. When I used shots, they really didn't hurt, even when I walked around with the needle coming out of the back of my arm. (I thought it was a great party trick...) So, my question for you is this: Do you feel the sensor on your arm/leg/wherever, and how is the accuracy? (I know that it's only approved for abdomen use, but I'm not worried about that).

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Curses! Looks like we were both wrong, Sara :)
Bruce,

I'm sorry about posting my rant after your apology. I will edit it to reflect that you did apologize.
 
I didn't make the connection.

To Bruce, sorry for ranting off on you; I'll put an apology in one of your posts to the same effect, so when you log in, you see the notification.

Mike,

One thing I was worried about was having the Dexcom in the arms/legs/somewhere there isn't a lot of fat. When I used shots, they really didn't hurt, even when I walked around with the needle coming out of the back of my arm. (I thought it was a great party trick...) So, my question for you is this: Do you feel the sensor on your arm/leg/wherever, and how is the accuracy? (I know that it's only approved for abdomen use, but I'm not worried about that).

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Bruce,

I'm sorry about posting my rant after your apology. I will edit it to reflect that you did apologize.

Jeff - I've messed with putting the sensor most places. I never use my abdomen. I find that upper thigh, back of arms (real estate there is a bit less since that's where I pretty much exclusively wear my Omnipod) and back of calves are the best spots for me. Numbers are pretty good in each of those spots.
 
So will this app negate the need for a receiver? My daughter was recently diagnosed with T1 DM, and we are currently researching pumps and CGM's. She has an iPhone 5 that she is allowed to use while in school to be in touch with us (our principal is also Type 1 and he is the one who suggested this). It would be nice to be able to use an iPhone app, once available with the next Dexcom CGM, instead of also carrying around a receiver.
 
The diabetes solution ready for tomorrow... (I´m really excited)

The Abbott company distributes a continuously measuring sensor (search for "flash" "glucose" "monitoring").
Their ugly handheld monitor device is NFC based and technically could be replaced by Apple Watch.

That would be THE breakthrough in diabetes therapy, that many patients have been waiting for decades!
 
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