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I ordered the 42mm Space Gray and the 38mm Silver at 12:05 and my delivery for the 42mm was already 4-6 weeks. Strange, could 5 minutes really make that big of a difference?

Ordered the Space Grey Sport at 8:02am/8:03am (UK) and was showing 24th April - 8th May, had the confirmation by 8:04am and delivery was 4-6 weeks (now showing through order tracking as 12th - 26th May). :(
 
Scarcity is a great trick to play on the consumers before the pre-order date, but once the curtain rises you're supposed to have some actual product there to sell.

Scarcity implies that you have at least some availability on the market, therefore you can"t play that "trick" before the pre-order starts. The whole point of artificial scarcity is to increase the desire for the product by making you desire it even more because you were not part of the "lucky few" who where able to get their hands on it upon its first day launch. Note that in the case of Apple, the "lucky few" can be measured in millions of individuals :)

The unlucky ones who couldn't get their unit on launch date won't stop thinking about it until it becomes available again , maybe a couple of months later. They will desire it even more than ever during the wait, and may even change a "I think I want one" ( Still not sure if I'm going to buy one) to a "I absolutely need one" (Please Take my money NOW !!!), wich is the whole point of this marketing technique.
 
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We can add a more recent date of April 2008...

Nokia CEO Disses iPhone, Doesn't Seem Worried That U.S. Market Share Slipped Again - calling it a "niche product"

Lol, because Nokia know everything about staying relevant... :D
 
I didn't say "make everyone wait". Don't put words in my mouth. I said that I think Apple could de better. That doesn't require EVERYONE to wait. Apple picks the launch date; it's not rigidly forced upon them. If the launch date was next friday instead of today, they would have provided 1 more week to make enough extra to delight more customers than could be delighted by launching today. Nobody waits because the expectations of when anyone could order one at the earliest would simply be next Friday instead of today.

And, last I checked, Apple had some money on hand such that they could probably afford to build up enough inventory to be able to fulfill orders on day 1 for longer than a minute or 20 minutes into the launch. I believe they could swing it. They're not 1997 Apple anymore.

It probably more complicated then that. As someone said holdups in the supply chain could clog the system and cost more money. Which in turn gets them less profits. Possible storage costs of all those watches. Finding places to store them, which could slow down making them in the factories. Shipping to stores before hand. I remember Apple even booked all flights leaving China to get the iPhone6/S6 out in time. Then getting the Sapphire crystals made fast enough ect. and so on.
 
Take that haters!

I had no doubt that the watch would “sell out” during pre-orders. There is no physical inventory to see outside of Apple warehouses so what is stopping Apple from saying that their sold out when they have plenty of stock? The ultimate test is a month or two from today to see if people actually like the watch; if the watch is still “hot”.
I would like to see actual numbers; not some IT guy changing “shipping on 4/24” to “shipping June” on an Apple controlled website.
 
.......what a joke. Steve is rolling in his grave. :apple:

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When it's by design, absolutely. :apple:

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I find this version so pointless.

That's what Unther said about version 1 of the wheel... stupid square wheel...:mad:
 
The "up vote" button is to blame for eliciting many of the of the comments posted on MR.

IMO - Many people intentionally try to be divisive, humorous, ultra-sarcastic, etc... simply because getting a lot of "up votes" makes them feel good about themselves.

It really diminishes the quality of the MR forum area. Instead of intelligent posts, we see many posts that are clearly meant to grab up votes.

Ever since the iPhone's release (which brought in millions of new Apple users), I've noticed that the MR forum area has been hit with all sorts of people.

The forums are not what they used to be.

In the past I came to the forums to get information from people who knew A LOT about Macs. Now, it is packed with a bunch of people seeking attention.

Well said. Ironically, this got you quite a few up votes.:D :p
 
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I actually placed an order like most folks at 3 am EST using the Apple Store App and I had a May delivery date. However 2 hours later logic set in and I cancelled my order. Just like the original iPhone, I'm going to wait this out till the version I like comes out. In the case of the iPhone it was the iPhone 4. I had a flip phone that was on pay as you go for a few years until the iPhone 4 came out and I never regretted waiting. The same goes for this watch. After the Applecare and taxes this little piece of tech was going to cost me close to $700 CDN! (and that was just for the aluminum sport edition). I will save my "ducats" and wait for maybe version 2 and possibly get the steel version.
 
It probably more complicated then that. As someone said holdups in the supply chain could clog the system and cost more money. Which in turn gets them less profits. Possible storage costs of all those watches. Finding places to store them, which could slow down making them in the factories. Shipping to stores before hand. I remember Apple even booked all flights leaving China to get the iPhone6/S6 out in time. Then getting the Sapphire crystals made fast enough ect. and so on.

Who's proposing they hold up a supply chain or clog the system? When they're made, they go somewhere, either direct to customers, to stores or to storage.

"Possible storage costs"?
"finding places to store them"?

Do we actually believe cash is so tight at Apple that another day or week of storage of relatively small watch boxes might come with HUGE expenses? Do we actually believe finding somewhere there or here to store extra lots of relatively small watch boxes would be hard to do?

We keep trying to rationalize the question like Apple is being attacked. They're not. As good as they've been able to fulfill orders on launch day, is it impossible to think they can do any better? Because as we keep spinning possible excuses why lots of people were seeing shipping delays of weeks as soon as 1 minute after they could order, that's basically what we're saying: Apple cannot do better than this.

EVERY SINGLE TIME there is a big product launch, it is this very same scenario. Apple has tons of cash and the biggest brains known to be logistical geniuses. And yet, here we are once again, seeing our fellow consumers writing that they tried to place an order as little as 1 minute after they possibly could and delivery was already delayed 4 weeks. ONE MINUTE.
 
Nah

Well said. Ironically, this got you quite a few up votes. :D :p

Nah, it's when iTunes went Windows. Opened us up to a whole new type of tech consumer.

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Who's proposing they hold up a supply chain or clog the system? When they're made, they go somewhere, either direct to customers, to stores or to storage.

"Possible storage costs"?
"finding places to store them"?

Do we actually believe cash is so tight at Apple that another day or week of storage of relatively small watch boxes might come with HUGE expenses? Do we actually believe finding somewhere there or here to store extra lots of relatively small watch boxes would be hard to do?

We keep trying to rationalize the question like Apple is being attacked. They're not. As good as they've been able to fulfill orders on launch day, is it impossible to think they can do any better? Because as we keep spinning possibly excuses why lots of people were seeing shipping delays of weeks as soon as 1 minute after they could order, that's basically what we're saying: Apple cannot do better than this.

EVERY SINGLE TIME there is a big product launch, it is this very same scenario. Apple has tons of cash and the biggest brains known to be logistical geniuses. And yet, here we are once again, seeing our fellow consumers writing that they tried to place an order as little as 1 minute after they possibly could and deliver was already delayed 4 weeks. ONE MINUTE.

Well, when you have thousands of people ordering at once, ONE MINUTE can be a lot.

Has no one considered Apple may start pre-orders before the product is completely finished, or that shipments may take extra time to clear customs, or that travel IRL isn't quite as simple as our digitally-inclined brains hope it to be?
 
Glitch in the Matrix?

I have all sorts of memories of that sort too. The internet doesn't have a record of everything. :confused:

Let me explain.
It seems I've met a lot of folks (usually born in the 80's) who refuse to believe any of this stuff. They think I'm making it up ... naturally I look for historical documentation to back up my claims ... but it's notoriously sparse. I could have used someone like you when I was making my case.

When Bill Gates became Time Magazine's Man of the Year I couldn't believe the article I read - you'd think he was a guru instead of a robber baron.

(BTW Bill has been the devil to me for many years ... but his philanthropy today is making up for a lot of that)
 
I make all my purchases based on worldwide demand. That's why my music collection is all Taylor Swift, One Direction, and Justin Beiber. I mean, with all those sales they're clearly better than bands who sell fewer albums right? :rolleyes:
 
Well, yeah

Well... when you put it that way... I'll just have to concede: the mighty Apple with the best logistical brains in the world and a huge cash hoard on hand just can't possibly do better.

Time and space, man. They still apply to ordering.
 
I make all my purchases based on worldwide demand. That's why my music collection is all Taylor Swift, One Direction, and Justin Beiber. I mean, with all those sales they're clearly better than bands who sell fewer albums right? :rolleyes:
Believe it or not, that's (unfortunately) how the majority of people decides what music to buy, what movies to go see and what books to read (or even what apps to buy for their iOs device) : by looking at what's already popular. "If a lot of other people are buying X, X must be good"

Most people are unsure of their own tastes. Sometimes even in their tastes about partners ( "Oh, if he is going out with that gorgeous blonde model, he must be hotter than I thought. I didn't think much of him but now I want him !" )

Sometimes the stars line up and popular things happen to be excellent on their own right. Many Apple products are lucky to be that ( they are both popular and actually really great )
 
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Geez!!!! Couldn't you have told me that Y E S T E R D A Y TallMan?

I would've sat up all night in my underwear, with the meh-dot-com website up on my iPhone, iPad and iMac too just in case. Finger poised on the BUY button at midnight.

:)

Actually I thought it was a bit funny that they sold this smartwatch on the same day that Apple launched its Smartwatch sales. It is the kind of cleverness I expect from Meh. And the watch is the kind of tech crap that I expect from Meh as well.

It was perfect synergy.
 
If it is any consolation, the black Sport was at 4-6 weeks within 5-10 minutes. The Stainless with Milanese Loop was still at 4/24-5/7 when I ordered both.

Good to know :) I feel slightly better I guess. Still, I was aiming to be within that 5 minute group. Ugh!
 
I ordered mine an hour after it opened up, and my ship date is showing as June... 42mm Space Grey Sport went quickly it seems!
 
I make all my purchases based on worldwide demand. That's why my music collection is all Taylor Swift, One Direction, and Justin Beiber. I mean, with all those sales they're clearly better than bands who sell fewer albums right? :rolleyes:

Not sure if I should be embarassed to admit that I don't watch a lot of movies, but when I do I will go to rottentomatoes to see what is most popular in theatres and/or DVD rentals, and pick one from there. :eek:

I don't do this for music though. You won't find me looking at a billboard top whatever, but that's just because music is more to me than movies and I have a different level of interest in it.

It seems that I may be onto something, and might have a point. But, I've lost it.
 
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