Rygaard
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The Feature with satelite.. not on EU - try and go to www.apple.dk .. the section is just missing, because the feature is missing in EU - same watch, higer price, less features.
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Apple Watch Ultra 3 Boasts Best Ever Battery Life
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You're doing exactly what the EU wants you to do. Don't buy Apple. The EU has gone after US companies ferociously to protect its own companies. Understandable that the EU wants to defend their own, but there are tremendous drawbacks to the onerous regulations and absolutely insane financial penalties associated with just doing business their own way by seeking a competitive advantage. The EU wants sameness for everything, so nobody has a reason to buy those American brands. They have companies like Nokia and Ericsson (err, Sony) to protect.
It's not Apple's fault. It's the EU's fault. For imaginary "anti-competitive" practices, they fine companies based on world-wide income, meaning a single fine represents more than all the profits they make from the EU for an entire year. You try to do business in the EU as a foreign company and see if it's an issue that needs "fixing". There's nothing Apple can do to fix anything except to be like everybody else, which means there's no reason to buy them anymore. The EU's demands are for Apple to give up everything that makes them Apple, and then they can do business. If they have to do that, why bother with making an effort in the EU? They keep those features out of the EU because they know they'd be sued and fined endlessly. So they leave all of those features out due to self-preservation.
Apple's iOS code is probably riddled with code (pseudo code) like:
if (EU) { Do nothing }
else { Do everything }
I'm not anything approaching an athlete, but I don't think that any serious or semi pro athlete would use the ultra.
Still one for weekend warriors and those who are not even that, but would like to be seen as one.
It's not damning the ultra 3 with faint praise - it's an amazing Apple Watch. It's just not for 'pros'.
Still one for weekend warriors and those who are not even that, but would like to be seen as one.
It's not damning the ultra 3 with faint praise - it's an amazing Apple Watch. It's just not for 'pros'.
Liquid Galaxy
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It's crazy that people don't get this...I always assume they're either not functioning on 100% brain power, or they don't even own an Apple Watch and are just trolling.
I have a digital watch that lasts for years on one battery so your Garmin's battery life is pathetic by comparison.
I understand. I checked with other EU countries, they seem to still have it. Very odd. It must be a specific thing for Denmark?
neptuna
macrumors member
Not everyone that wants an Ultra fits into the category of what the Garmin users want. And maybe that's a good thing. Competition is good for the consumers. It's great that your Garmin has 3 weeks of battery capacity and it meets your needs. But it's also great that the Watch Ultra got a battery boost and the users that will purchase one will definitely appreciate it.
wanha
macrumors 68030
your comment indicates that you view the two devices solely through your own use case rather than in any meaningful way comparing the different devices across use cases.
The difference between the two devices is essentially a smartphone philosophy vs dedicated device philosophy.
Apple has built a tiny computer you wear; Garmin has built an advanced fitness tracker that happens to be smart.
Each approach serves different user priorities - Apple for integrated digital life, Garmin for serious outdoor/fitness activities where battery life is critical.
It's great that the Garmin works for you.
That does not automatically make it a superior device to the AW.
Which Garmin watch do you have? How many 1 hour, Dual Band, GPS workouts do you do a day during your three weeks? Does it have an Always on Display, and if so, is it enabled? Do you stream music to it while you work out? Are you required to have your phone with you at all times to maintain that 3 week capacity?
I am pretty sure that Denmark is too far north for the satellites to cover.
The price in the EU is typically the same as it is in the U.S., except that in the EU they report the price with the taxes included where as in the U.S. they do not as taxes vary by location, at a more granular level than VAT in the EU.
I will ask you the same questions I asked the other Garmin user:
Which Garmin watch do you have? How many 1 hour, Dual Band, GPS workouts do you do a day during your three weeks? Does it have an Always on Display, and if so, is it enabled? Do you stream music to it while you work out? Are you required to have your phone with you at all times to maintain that 3 week capacity?
I initially thought it was 42 days battery life but then I saw it was 42 hours.
At 42 hours my Garmin is still close to 90%.
At 42 hours my Garmin is still close to 90%.
Which of those analytics are done on the watch or on Garmin’s website?
What 3rd party equipment does your watch support that you use?
Can you use your Garmin to run/jog/walk without your phone and still be accessible or be able to call for help in an emergency? I run/jog/walk without my iPhone a minimum of 2-3 hours a day. There is no Garmin product that allows that. Even their newest LTE (the Fenix 8 Pro) watch does not support real calling with the watch, but only voice to people with Garmin Messenger.
That watch with a “top line battery life of 15 days drops to less than two if one uses the Always on display, and does 2-3 hours of GPS tracked workouts.
Same questions as I have asked the other Garmin users:
Which Garmin watch do you have? How many 1 hour, Dual Band, GPS workouts do you do a day during your three weeks? Does it have an Always on Display, and if so, is it enabled? Do you stream music to it while you work out? Are you required to have your phone with you at all times to maintain that 3 week capacity?
mikebenton
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Still no compelling reason to upgrade my original AWU. The battery doesn’t last as long, but I only have to charge it once a day.
WarmWinterHat
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I wish Apple would offer a fitness focused watch, and less a smartwatch. Even when I had an Apple Watch, I kept notifications turned off, I didn't use HomeKit, didn't text or take calls from my watch, and I have never used Apple Pay from my wrist. I just want a fitness watch, but Apple doesn't offer it...which is bummer.
..and the Ultra is just too big for my tastes.
Here is the list of countries with Satellite SOS: Australia, Austria, Belgium, Canada, France, Germany, Ireland, Italy, Japan, Luxembourg, Netherlands, New Zealand, Portugal, Spain, Switzerland, the U.K., and the U.S., and I am pretty sure many of them are in Europe (and some are in the EU).
turbineseaplane
macrumors Penryn
And yet still completely inferior to many alternatives in this space.
turbineseaplane
macrumors Penryn
Maybe Apple should make a fitness focused model in that case?
There are a LOT of people who don't need or want an iPhone on their wrist ... if that's truly what's causing Apple to lag so badly in this key metric.
I know lots of us want to see a significant increase in battery but with this type of tech is not really doable. Even switching to silicone carbide wont provide anything comparable to garmin battery life, they are fundamentally designed for different things. However something that would have me switch back to Apple for a fitness watch would be an increase in battery life for gps activities with full gps and hr readings. I think that combined with better heath software would be a no brainer for 99% of athletes. To be fair though Apple Watch probably covers 90% of athletes needs anyway.
I have an AWU2 and a Garmin Epix Pro 2. The Garmin certainly has better battery life but no where near what you claim if you actually use it for anything. If you just strap it on your wrist and never touch it, you might get what you claim on the largest models that look stupid when you wear them. I would assume Garmin's software that looks like it was created by a high school kid in the 90's helps with battery life.
Really, the only time I wear the Garmin is when it's raining or a there's a heavy marine layer. The lack of being able to use buttons and almost complete reliance on touchscreen is my biggest problem with my AWU2.
They just trying to generating clicks, Ever notice the comically high percentage of obvious troll posts here?