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The main value for the Apple Watch if you like to run is that it has a cell phone function in it so you can leave yourself at home in case you get hurt and need to call for a ride

I usually trail run, and the places I run don't have cell service, from any provider...so not much use to me.
 
If it comes with the blood pressure monitoring, that would be a good reason to update. Otherwise, unless you really need the 12 extra pixels, stay with the Ultra 2.
The blood pressure monitoring is a gimic. Doctors complain about big amount of pointless checkups by people getting worried due to their ”smart” watches and rings. If you want to follow your blood pressure, you can buy bluetooth monitor and get the data to your Apple health. And that will cost a fraction of an Apple Watch.
 
I just want better battery life. The Garmin watches are able to last weeks to a month (in certain modes) but I'm lucky if my Apple Watch Ultra last 48 hours.
I so agree with you. I have my second Apple watch now getting to the end of the battery life, and I am seriously considering to downgrade the functionality and upgrade the battery life. A colleague of mine says he can easily play four rounds of golf without charging his Garmin Fenix. With Apple watch you get barely one round, and after three years I can just get 9 holes. Ultra would be better but just marginally.
 
Comparing Apples to Oranges.
Your analogy is off. That is a comparison of two smart watches that target people who are active in sports. Garmin set the benchmark in this and Apple does bare minimum that keeps people buying, as they have done in all their products in recent years. Not too different from Nokia at their prime, and we all know what happened to them.
 
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Your analogy is off. That is a comparison of two smart watches that target people who are active in sports. Garmin set the benchmark in this and Apple does bare minimum that keeps people buying, as they have done in all their products in recent years. Not too different from Nokia at their prime, and we all know what happened to them.
See, you want to twist the situation to try to make it fit your argument. AWU, is basically a smartphone/computer on your wrist with much more capabilities than anything Garmin puts out.

BTW, your analogy is off. Comparing Nokia to Apple.
 
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AWU, is basically a smartphone/computer on your wrist with much more capabilities than anything Garmin puts out.
I don't know about "much more capabilities" but they definitely have very different capabilities. Garmin's fitness watches have "much more capabilities" in the realm of athletics and fitness. Apple's watches have a clear advantage for smart watch and application usage. Apple's feature choices demand more resources than Garmin's, leading to far less battery life as a result.
 
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I don't know about "much more capabilities" but they definitely have very different capabilities. Garmin's fitness watches have "much more capabilities" in the realm of athletics and fitness. Apple's watches have a clear advantage for smart watch and application usage. Apple's feature choices demand more resources than Garmin's, leading to far less battery life as a result.
Agreed, the capabilities of each watch are different.
 
See, you want to twist the situation to try to make it fit your argument. AWU, is basically a smartphone/computer on your wrist with much more capabilities than anything Garmin puts out.

BTW, your analogy is off. Comparing Nokia to Apple.
We can agree to disagree, but comparing basic Apple Watch to Garmin is apples and oranges. AWU is promoted as 24/7 health and fitness tracker, and that is what Garmin does.

What comes to Nokia and Apple, both rose to the position of market leaders with great products. Then they turned to operational excellence optimizing cost and maximising profits. Nokia sestroyed their business, but Apple has still time to fix things.
 
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We can agree to disagree, but comparing basic Apple Watch to Garmin is apples and oranges. AWU is promoted as 24/7 health and fitness tracker, and that is what Garmin does.

What comes to Nokia and Apple, both rose to the position of market leaders with great products. Then they turned to operational excellence optimizing cost and maximising profits. Nokia sestroyed their business, but Apple has still time to fix things.
Many, many, many reasons why Nokia failed and unfortunately what you have outlined as reasons are just not accurate. Ironically the largest reason for their failure was Apple/iPhone and Android reinventing the smartphone.

Hate to break it to you, Apple is a publicly traded company and they don't make decisions in a vacuum. Any well run business is going to optimize costs, which in turn should increase profits. They don't just spend to spend. "Time to fix things" Apple isn't going anywhere; they have created a deep, diversified business model that doesn't depend on one thing.

BTW, did you happen to see the cost of Garmin's newest watches? $1300 and $2000.

Have a good one, I have spent too much time on this already.
 
How do you have an Apple Watch with 5G if one hasn’t been released yet? The article appears to state that the upcoming one will be the first.
I just meant to say it has cellular. I thought 5G was already the standard nowadays so that’s why I wrote 5G. I can’t see it in AW settings, just the carrier.
 
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