I agree, it should be a much more seamless experience. I just think it's not overlooking as a potential competitor since many people are unhappy about apples price point
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I agree, it should be a much more seamless experience. I just think it's not overlooking as a potential competitor since many people are unhappy about apples price point
For me, the big difference is that if you have an iOS device, it will communicate seamlessly with your other Apple devices (this includes Mac). Calls, notifications, documents etc.. That's something you can't get on an Android device whether you have a PC or a Mac, deep integration.. Google only has Chrome OS as a desktop OS.
Agreed, one of the reasons I'm finally ditching the pebble steel. For some people they won't want to pay the apple premium though so inevitably they will go other directions
I've had a Pebble (plastic) for a month now. Although I can appreciate the notifications I can't interact with them other than dismiss them and pick up my phone. The Apple watch not only lets me interact with notifications but the screen and watch faces are soooo much nicer looking.
I think we will have to see what apps the developers are gonna put on the Watch. I believe it is the key success factor. The reason why Android is behind Apple is because of the apps. I own several Android devices and iOS devices and I can clearly see how unconsistent the apps are (especially the UI). When comparing even similar apps from the same developers I always found the iOS version superior. Let's wait and see
Yeah definitely. My friends would always bust on me when I wore the pebble it since it looked so geeky lol. Having the option to answer a call or use dictation for texts alone is worth the price tag for me
Remembering that through the use of Siri, Apple records everything we say.
That's a reason Apple has built some of the world's largest data centers. It takes a lot of room to store all the voice and data they collect from us.
Knowing this, I made a deliberate decision a few years ago to never use Siri. Besides I think it's odd and it can be rude to talk to your phone. Yet young kids and the easily amused adults think they look cool. Or narcissistic people like Steve Jobs love Siri.
That's a reason Apple has built some of the world's largest data centers. It takes a lot of room to store all the voice and data they collect from us.
Knowing this, I made a deliberate decision a few years ago to never use Siri. Besides I think it's odd and it can be rude to talk to your phone. Yet young kids and the easily amused adults think they look cool. Or narcissistic people like Steve Jobs love Siri.
Not sure that's entirely accurate. To the extent anything is actually recorded (as in, for long-term storage), it would only be after you specifically engaged Siri, and - or so I would speculate - only if you gave Siri a request it had difficulty processing.
I could be wrong, but it seems to me there would be little point in storing mundane requests which the system readily handles*. Only the things where it gets stumped or the user makes multiple attempts to get an answer would be worthy of saving, for research and development purposes.
*You'd want to register for purposes of statistics say, how often people asks about the weather, or want to dictate a text reply and so on, but that doesn't mean the actual user's speech would get recorded every time. Or even at all. You'd categorize the request, and increase a counter(s) in your database, and that'd be it. Completely anonymized. Apple has stated more than once that they don't consider their customers their product, and that they take privacy seriously. (Although they're not exactly always on top of the ball when it comes to fixing security flaws in their software, heh.)
You talk about narcissistic people, and I love how you unilaterally award yourself the ability to instantly judge and categorize people, and deem Siri as lacking all reason to exist...
Here's a story that might warm even the cockles of your blackened heart:
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/19/fashion/how-apples-siri-became-one-autistic-boys-bff.html?_r=0
Let's look at the Apple Watch in action and compare, shall we?
Beginning of the video at 10 seconds, missed input on the digital crown requiring multiple taps, then severe input lag as he drags his finger around the screen at 20 seconds and again, more lag at 50 seconds, missed input taps at 1:20, and so on.
The App launcher is horribly inefficient with having to use the spinning crown. Overall the UI is cartoonish in nature (and talk about a pathetic gimmick with sending little cartoons you draw with your finger on a 1.3"screen?), slow and completely lacking without an iPhone right next to it.
Additionally, the toy-like and very feminine look of the Apple Watch is just ugly.
You see, we can balance out criticism from one UI to the other, all day long. But here's the difference. Lots of people own the various circular Android Wear watches and actually like how it works. How many have an Apple Watch and can confirm the smoothness, how well it actually functions, how good software updates are, etc? Oh yeah, none. You might want to wait until the Apple Watch is actually on people's wrists before comparing to a 'real' consumer product.
Let's look at the Apple Watch in action and compare, shall we?
Beginning of the video at 10 seconds, missed input on the digital crown requiring multiple taps, then severe input lag as he drags his finger around the screen at 20 seconds and again, more lag at 50 seconds, missed input taps at 1:20, and so on.
The App launcher is horribly inefficient with having to use the spinning crown. Overall the UI is cartoonish in nature (and talk about a pathetic gimmick with sending little cartoons you draw with your finger on a 1.3"screen?), slow and completely lacking without an iPhone right next to it.
Additionally, the toy-like and very feminine look of the Apple Watch is just ugly.
You see, we can balance out criticism from one UI to the other, all day long. But here's the difference. Lots of people own the various circular Android Wear watches and actually like how it works. How many have an Apple Watch and can confirm the smoothness, how well it actually functions, how good software updates are, etc? Oh yeah, none. You might want to wait until the Apple Watch is actually on people's wrists before comparing to a 'real' consumer product.
Stop yourself. This is a 6 month old video from the original keynote, where the software was still in alpha. Not even beta. Not even the journalists was allowed to use the software. The demo units were playing a video loop on the watch.
So it's not even comparable. Check the latest videos from the keynote last week, where the software is much more mature. That's a whole other thing. And the one that ships with the watch is probably even better.
At least the competition can last up 10 days, rather than 3/4 of a day. My G Watch, with the screen off can easily make 4-5 days and 2 with the screen always on.
I don't think you got the point of my post. I was simply doing what you did in your posts, but reversed the point of view. Do you see how it sounds when you say stuff like the UI is bad, it is inconsistent, you don't like how it uses the UI, etc. Many people can say the same about thing about the Apple Watch. And although I really think the Apple Watch looks like a toy and won't be buying one, I'm sure the Apple Watch will be very smooth and the UI hardware will function well.
Not sure that's entirely accurate. To the extent anything is actually recorded (as in, for long-term storage), it would only be after you specifically engaged Siri, and - or so I would speculate - only if you gave Siri a request it had difficulty processing.
I could be wrong, but it seems to me there would be little point in storing mundane requests which the system readily handles*. Only the things where it gets stumped or the user makes multiple attempts to get an answer would be worthy of saving, for research and development purposes.
*You'd want to register for purposes of statistics say, how often people asks about the weather, or want to dictate a text reply and so on, but that doesn't mean the actual user's speech would get recorded every time. Or even at all. You'd categorize the request, and increase a counter(s) in your database, and that'd be it. Completely anonymized. Apple has stated more than once that they don't consider their customers their product, and that they take privacy seriously. (Although they're not exactly always on top of the ball when it comes to fixing security flaws in their software, heh.)
You talk about narcissistic people, and I love how you unilaterally award yourself the ability to instantly judge and categorize people, and deem Siri as lacking all reason to exist...
Here's a story that might warm even the cockles of your blackened heart:
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/19/fashion/how-apples-siri-became-one-autistic-boys-bff.html?_r=0
Apple often says things that are designed solely for the purposes of growing the brand and it's user base. A popular technique of most successful brands. I most certainly don't have any objection to that.
Yet specifically unique to Apple is it's nurturing and success in developing a cult like user base so Pro-Apple they'll go to extreme lengths to advocate, make excuses for, and employ great degrees of hypocrisy no matter the circumstances. After all no one could ever be as good as Apple.
The extreme narcissism of the departed Jobs (RIP) and a few others within Apple has been well documented. So while I appreciate you noticing my skill in identifying that characteristic, the credit goes to others.
I take great satisfaction as I watch the much more grounded, strong, professional Tim Cook run Apple so skillfully. Just one look at their dramatic increases in revenue for 2014/2015 reveals his stellar business acumen.
I am but an observer and enthusiastic Apple historian with many years of hands on personal experience. Having purchased new and owned a vast number of Apple products in all categories as I continue to do, brings me priceless first hand experiences both good and bad.
Apple is going to continue stronger than ever if for no other reason besides it's skill at playing the game, and its hoard of cash stashed in every conceivable tax haven around the world.
It's great to be Apple
If it were to happen, no more Android Wear watches would be created for iOS. Rather, all the current ones would likely be compatible with both platforms.
But, it doesn't really matter as there is no change Android Wear would ever be officially supported on iOS. Perhaps Google want it, but there is no change Apple would let them.
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Ummm, the only hardware 'officially' supported by Apple is hardware built or bought by Apple. That doesn't stop Pebble, Martian or a slew of other smart devices from utilizing the API's needed to get the info from an iPhone and have it display on a watch.
In fact, I can get notifications on my watch that show me who an email, text or call is from, I can activate Siri from my watch, I can use my watch as the camera button for my iPhone, low battery warning for my iphone, and calendar reminder notifications. Any Android Wear watch will be able to do the same. It won't be difficult and will likely increase sales of round Android Wear watches a hundred fold. I will be one of the first to buy one, once I know it will work with my iPhone.
Exactly.
Virtually anything a developer can do with an IOS application...they could also do with an Android Watch. The Google Watch IOS app will interface with IOS, and Android Watches will interface with that app. In addition to viewing notifications, this would include creating and interacting with messages and calendar events.
Don't assume that limitations of a Pebble Watch would also be limitations of an Android Watch. Pebble has what, 1-2 developers working on their IOS watch app? Google could have 200 developers working on their watch app.
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Not officially of course. It's possible but Apple won't even let apps that put widgets into the notification center into the App Store, not to mention an app from larger competing platform. Think of it from a business point of view - who would be an Apple Watch over a Smartwatch 3 (for sports) or a Moto 360?
As I said, it will be easy for Google to make, but unlikely for Apple to allow. It is much easier with the Pebble as it does not to have to integrate with core services such as Google Search, Siri etc. And what about the apps? Pebble could create one for both but that wouldn't be an option for either Apple or Google.
You confuse hardware and software. Apple allows Google Now, Google Maps, Search and so on to function on their phones. Martian has an app, Pebble has an app, etc for the iphone to function with the smartwatches (oh and BTW, these smartwatches integrate with core services like Siri already!) So, why do you believe Apple wouldn't allow an app from Google to work with Android Wear watches. That is contradictory to current policy.