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I really hope "provide" means "supply", as in the MLB will be paying for these devices. Otherwise, hooray! A happy ending for the rich people!

But in all seriousness...the MLB doesn't need anything given to them "free" any more than Apple does. Instead, I challenge you, Tim Cook, to "provide" schools/etc. with some free technology or other forms of support.

Didn't they just do this, in 9.3, by reducing the number of iPads a school would need to have, and allowing kids to share them? Yes, I realize it's newer iPads, but schools will replace these over time and the feature will become more universally supported.
 
Nice although I'd think the 9.7" would be better for that type of environment. Not like there are tables in the dugout and in my limited of use of the 12.9" I found it not really easy to use just sitting down with it on my lap (especially typing).
 
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Doesn't make sense for baseball, perhaps recording pitch counts and what not, but there's really no need for such technology. I think baseball saw what the NFL did, and was wanting to copy them - Apple gave them a better deal then Microsoft.
agreed......baseball is a very stat driven game. But they have people for each team that track so many stats it is unbelievable. But all that is not done in the dugout. I don't know what use a ipad will have in the dugout during a MLB game. I think you're right.....Apple gave them a better deal than MS did.
 
Regardless of the merits of such app/setup for everybody's sanity sake would not it be better if MLB simply banned all electronics in the dugout? No waste of money on hardware and software and everybody can simply enjoy the game. I am 100% sure that these apps will add nothing to the enjoyment of the fans so what's the purpose?
Would you want to go back to living under a bridge and stealing children for food? Even trolls have embraced technology.
 
Clearly you are not familiar with actual American Baseball, which has been statistics-driven since the 1860s.
Long Live Chadwick!
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Apple's sudden infatuation with pro sports makes me sad.

Why? It's no different than Mac placement in almost every movie from the 80s and 90s.
Heck, the Mac was shown worldwide for the first time during the Superbowl!!
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They'd have been using them already if it was that critical. I get it. It's a commercial deal, but the less tech in sport the better.

No, because MLB had to approve it. Baseball players can't wear what they want, can't have what they want in the dugout, and they can't even wear a pin which is not approved by MLB. That's why they don't have cell phones and stuff.
They have computers and stuff behind the dugout, but not in the dugout. MLB has to approve everything.
Since MLB is trying to get more techie, especially since the advent of on field challenges, this is only a natural evolution.
 
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Doesn't make sense for baseball, perhaps recording pitch counts and what not, but there's really no need for such technology. I think baseball saw what the NFL did, and was wanting to copy them - Apple gave them a better deal then Microsoft.

Dude. You are totally clueless about baseball analytics.

These will be very useful for baseball coaches and managers. They will be able to quickly access match up stats - What is Batter A's batting average vs Pitcher C. Or how well does Batter A hit lefties vs righties? Or against curve balls or fastballs? Does Batter A have more power after the 6th inning? The possibilites are limitless. Without a computing device alot of these decisions will be based on a hunch or simply from memory.
 
I am not sure how much you follow baseball but baseball is wayyy more stat driven than football so if anything it makes more sense.

I actually create stat tracking apps for both sports and baseball outsells football 5:1.

Are you serious? I mean... Moneyball? Bill James? Chadwick? And how about the MLB TV for Apple TV 4 full of stats and stuff? Fantasy Baseball? Seriously, there is no sport which is more data driven than baseball.
 
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Apple's sudden infatuation with pro sports makes me sad.

Apple's association with Dre makes me sad.

This just in.
The 67-95 Braves have announced that a stadium hamburger and two slices of pizza
will go for $26. Guess they have to pay for those iPads.
 
the notebooks these things are replacing get tossed in the air a lot when good (or bad) plays happen. hope they can drop the habit...
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Apple's sudden infatuation with pro sports makes me sad.


Apple's association with Dre makes me sad...

can you say the same thing for anything else that caters to around a quarter billion people? like, if a really amazing artist uses a pencil and another one comes along who stinks with it... hate on the pencil?
 
Regardless of the merits of such app/setup for everybody's sanity sake would not it be better if MLB simply banned all electronics in the dugout? No waste of money on hardware and software and everybody can simply enjoy the game. I am 100% sure that these apps will add nothing to the enjoyment of the fans so what's the purpose?

What in the heck are you talking about? Do you know anything about baseball?

Statistics and data are heavily involved in baseball, and the managers and players in the dugout want to see this information, and electronics make it easier. It's not for the fans, just like the Microsoft Surface was not for the fans - it was used by the coaches and players on the sidelines.
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Apple's association with Dre makes me sad.

This just in.
The 67-95 Braves have announced that a stadium hamburger and two slices of pizza
will go for $26. Guess they have to pay for those iPads.

A beer costs $10+ in any ball park.
A pizza slice or hot dog costs $8+ in any ball park.

This year, last year, the year before. It's been this way for a LONG time, way before iPads.
 
I imagine Apple needs to do this because they desperately need to position the "iPad Pro" as a device that is actually useful for work--and not just a really good entertainment device.

Yes, I know there is a niche of people who *can* actually use iPads for work purposes, but outside of checking email they are near useless for the type of work most people do--or are at best a frivolous and unnecessary accessory.

That, and for some reason Apple decides to combat declining sales by *raising* the price. This company is getting increasingly out of touch.
 
Yes, I know there is a niche of people who *can* actually use iPads for work purposes, but outside of checking email they are near useless for the type of work most people do--or are at best a frivolous and unnecessary accessory.

I will let my departmental Director, City Manager, and Deputy City Managers of my 350K+ people municipality know that what they claim to be a "revolutionary" tool for work is frivolous.
I will also let my wife know that the "great tool" that is helping her quite a bit handling 250 people as HR Manager is unnecessary.
Don't make broad assumptions.
 
I imagine Apple needs to do this because they desperately need to position the "iPad Pro" as a device that is actually useful for work--and not just a really good entertainment device.

Yes, I know there is a niche of people who *can* actually use iPads for work purposes, but outside of checking email they are near useless for the type of work most people do--or are at best a frivolous and unnecessary accessory.

That, and for some reason Apple decides to combat declining sales by *raising* the price. This company is getting increasingly out of touch.

Bullshet.

I know many Doctors, Nurses, Lawyers, Professors, Teachers, CEO's, Marketing Executives, Sales Executives, ect who use their iPad as their primary travel computer.

There is more to being a 'Pro' then being able to run X-code, Photoshop, or CAD.
 
Baseball in its various guises has been around for 600+ years. They've coped for that long without daft gadgets and meaningless data on the sidelines, so why is it needed now?

Are you suggesting baseball should never evolve? If so today's game would look very different than it did hundreds of years ago.
 
I will let my departmental Director, City Manager, and Deputy City Managers of my 350K+ people municipality know that what they claim to be a "revolutionary" tool for work is frivolous.
I will also let my wife know that the "great tool" that is helping her quite a bit handling 250 people as HR Manager is unnecessary.
Don't make broad assumptions.

Bullshet.

I know many Doctors, Nurses, Lawyers, Professors, Teachers, CEO's, Marketing Executives, Sales Executives, ect who use their iPad as their primary travel computer.

There is more to being a 'Pro' then being able to run X-code, Photoshop, or CAD.

I'm very skeptical how much work is actually getting done by some of these people on an iPad. I happen to know quite a few professionals myself in a variety of fields and although some of them did get issued iPads, they are mostly viewed as a perk of employment and not seriously used for work.

In other words, they'll answer a few emails on the iPad and then watch a movie and play a game on the plane. Any serious work that needs to be done they still use a laptop. Again, I think iPads are great and a niche of people can use them for serious work--but only a niche. They will need to get more powerful (and certainly with more than 2GB of RAM) before I'll be convinced they deserve the "Pro" label and a price increase.
 
Are you suggesting baseball should never evolve? If so today's game would look very different than it did hundreds of years ago.

After all catchers didn't use gloves for many many years. So why use them? (pic from a catcher who played from 1871 to 1883)

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I happen to know quite a few professionals myself in a variety of fields and although some of them did get issued iPads, they are mostly viewed as a perk of employment and not seriously used for work.

How they see the iPad is their choice. Some good professionals see smartphones as useless toys. Some still see computers as weird. You can be a professional in many fields with or without an iPad.

In other words, they'll answer a few emails on the iPad and then watch a movie and play a game on the plane.

But that's how they use it, that's their choice and their unwillingness to put the time to understand how a new tool can fit a workflow. A tool is a tool and it has to be learned and implemented.

Any serious work that needs to be done they still use a laptop.

It depends on how you define serious. If by serious you mean high-tech stuff, maybe. Or if you mean working on a complex Excel Spreadsheet using VBA and automation, maybe. But for a real pro one thing is important: time. What I have seen - and this is my experience - is that once the iPad pro is integrated in the workflow there is a huge reduction of time. It's all boom, boom, boom. Get the spreadsheet boom, put notes, boom, email it boom, open the meeting minutes in PDF Expert boom, write notes on it with pencil boom, open Noteability write on it boom, pdf a piece of paper they gave you boom, keep it and write notes on it with pencil boom, create a very quick nice to see presentation during a small meeting and let everyone in the room see it through the iPad screen seamesly boom, go to city manager show budget graphs boom, check latest survey boom re send it with handwritten notes boom. All with one tool. Can you use a laptop to do the same things? Mostly yes. Does it save you time? No. Do you carry it around ALWAYS? No.
Plus I have observed (and this is niche) the ultimate miracle in Public Admin: reduction of paper!!!!!
 
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Yes!!! Finally someone said it.
Pro doesn't mean pro techie. I am seeing the impact in public administration. Someone else will see the impact in medicine, someone else in professional chess. And someone in MLB.

You are right there is more to pro than being a pro techie. They still shouldn't slap pro on something that just does the same thing that people use everyday. Ok if you can use it as a personal PC replacement then its no different than any other generic PC/Laptop being sold for 299 and they definitely aren't labeled as pro so why should they iPad.
 
Can't agree more, if baseball will be faster with this, I'll be happy. If not, well drop the iPad and find other way...Like stoping at the 3rd inning ;)
 
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You are right there is more to pro than being a pro techie. They still shouldn't slap pro on something that just does the same thing that people use everyday. Ok if you can use it as a personal PC replacement then its no different than any other generic PC/Laptop being sold for 299 and they definitely aren't labeled as pro so why should they iPad.

Personally I don't think that it's a laptop replacement; I found Apple's remarks pretty odd and if you want the truth, pretty stupid.
But you can't look only at the "Pro" part. You have to look at the "iPad" part also. It's "iPad Pro", all together. It's an iPad which (at least theoretically) has features aimed at the pro market, compared to the other non-pro iPads. It's up to you, as a worker, to see if it fits your job.
 
I'm very skeptical how much work is actually getting done by some of these people on an iPad. I happen to know quite a few professionals myself in a variety of fields and although some of them did get issued iPads, they are mostly viewed as a perk of employment and not seriously used for work.

In other words, they'll answer a few emails on the iPad and then watch a movie and play a game on the plane. Any serious work that needs to be done they still use a laptop. Again, I think iPads are great and a niche of people can use them for serious work--but only a niche. They will need to get more powerful (and certainly with more than 2GB of RAM) before I'll be convinced they deserve the "Pro" label and a price increase.

What da fuc do you consider 'serious work'?

Because I know CEO's that use their iPad as their primary travel device and are closing multi-billion dollar deals using their iPads. I also know Doctors who use iPads as their only travel computer and are LITERALLY SAVING LIVES. I know Lawyers who use iPads as their primary travel computer and are trying to keep their clients out of jail or the death sentence. Now you tell me those are NOT SERIOUS WORK. WTF.

Stop with this non-sense that 'serious work' has to be done with X-code, Photoshop, or CAD.

Get off your high horse thinking that only TECH professionals do SERIOUS WORK.
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You are right there is more to pro than being a pro techie. They still shouldn't slap pro on something that just does the same thing that people use everyday. Ok if you can use it as a personal PC replacement then its no different than any other generic PC/Laptop being sold for 299 and they definitely aren't labeled as pro so why should they iPad.

Pro is short for professional.

Professional means you get paid for services.

iPad Pro................

WTF is the problem with that? If a generic/PC laptop company wants to call their $299 laptops Pro they can. Big deal. No one cares.

What did you want Apple to call it? iPad Ameuter? Seriously.
 
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