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I'm against telling a company how run their affairs (within reason, of course). But if they were going to do it, I'd much rather them force Apple to let customers of older devices roll back to whatever iOS version they wanted to, as long as it had at one time been released on their device. Would have made so many people happy.
 
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Overblown issue. Apple doing the right thing in stabilizing the device by throttling the CPU while Samsung and others say "whelp, your battery is old so it's causing your phone to reboot" and Apple gets the lawsuit while other companies go free.

What a bunch of complainers. 🤦‍♂️

Now, I do agree with the lawsuit that Apple did wrong in failing to notify, but throttling is absolutely the correct course of action which goes above and beyond what other companies fail to do.
Only because they did change the battery. Before this they never told the cx, battery health wasn't a think, adn there was no way to stop it, or even be aware of it.

It wasn;t until MUCH later that apple actually said something.

Apple shoul dhave issued the battery health section with a note about degraded performance and performance management was applied.

If apple had done this it would have been different.

But for over a year apple HID that they did this and to many that is exactly how forced obscelesance looked. The user had no way to know that the phone was doing this and all they needed was a battery replacement, This drove users to purchase new phones instead when many could've just done the battery change.

THAT is the issue.

What apple was doing was good. if only the user had been noticed but like i said for a very loong time.... nope
 
The issue is that apple did not tell people and people thought that their phones were broken and thus spent hundreds on new iPhones or battery repair.

Apple not being upfront + benefiting from people buying new iPhones was a very scummy thing of Apple.

Trust is paramount with customers and Apple failed.

I specifically said: "Now, I do agree with the lawsuit that Apple did wrong in failing to notify"
 
Only because they did change the battery. Before this they never told the cx, battery health wasn't a think, adn there was no way to stop it, or even be aware of it.

It wasn;t until MUCH later that apple actually said something.

Apple shoul dhave issued the battery health section with a note about degraded performance and performance management was applied.

If apple had done this it would have been different.

But for over a year apple HID that they did this and to many that is exactly how forced obscelesance looked. The user had no way to know that the phone was doing this and all they needed was a battery replacement, This drove users to purchase new phones instead when many could've just done the battery change.

THAT is the issue.

What apple was doing was good. if only the user had been noticed but like i said for a very loong time.... nope

Again, I specifically said: "Now, I do agree with the lawsuit that Apple did wrong in failing to notify".
 
There are hundreds of engineering and software tradeoffs made by tech companies each day. Which ones do you need to be notified about? This was only found out by specialists running tests. Very little real world impact and it was the right engineering trade off to avoid failure.

The logic made it though because its absurd to communicate low level battery/processor trade off decisions to consumers.

There was a 30-40% drop in performance. Most people would want to be aware. What kind of everyday "engineering and software tradeoffs" have that kind of impact?

People noticed their phones were slow, hence they ran tests. It wasn't the other way around.

You're conflating engineering decisions with user awareness. Most people don't mind Low Power Mode, they simply want to be aware of it.
 


iPhone owners who signed up to receive a payment under Apple's "batterygate" iPhone throttling lawsuit settlement should soon be receiving their payments. As noted by The Mercury News, the judge overseeing the lawsuit has thrown out an appeal from two iPhone owners who were attempting to object to the settlement, clearing the way for the payments to be sent out.

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Apple in 2020 agreed to pay $500 to settle the "batterygate" lawsuit, which accused the company of secretly throttling older iPhone models. The class action lawsuit was open to U.S. customers who had an iPhone 6, 6 Plus, 6s, 6s Plus, 7, or 7 Plus running iOS 10.2.1 or iOS 11.2 prior to December 21, 2017.

The lawsuit stemmed from the iOS 10.2.1 update that Apple released in 2017. The software tweaked the performance of older iPhones with degraded batteries to prevent them from shutting down. The processor was effectively throttled down because the battery could not keep up, and some users saw slower performance speeds when this occurred. The only way to restore full performance was to replace the degraded battery.

Apple did not initially tell customers that iOS 10.2.1 introduced performance throttling, which outraged consumers and led to a major headache for Apple, including this class action lawsuit. Apple ultimately apologized for its lack of communication and dropped the price of battery replacements to $29 through the end of 2018.

iPhone owners eligible for a payout would have needed to submit a claim back in 2020, and submissions were open through October 6, 2020. Those who submitted a claim back then will be eligible for a payment, which will be around $65 per claimant.

Article Link: Apple Will Soon Send Payments in $500 Million 'Batterygate' iPhone Throttling Lawsuit
$65 Eh 🤣
The only winners in this law suit are the lawyers 😡
 
Overblown issue. Apple doing the right thing in stabilizing the device by throttling the CPU while Samsung and others say "whelp, your battery is old so it's causing your phone to reboot" and Apple gets the lawsuit while other companies go free.

What a bunch of complainers. 🤦‍♂️

Now, I do agree with the lawsuit that Apple did wrong in failing to notify, but throttling is absolutely the correct course of action which goes above and beyond what other companies fail to do.
Absolutely not overblown. The whole point is that they slowed down our phones without notice, causing many people to believe that they needed to spend $700 on a new phone instead of replacing the battery. I thought this was total bush-league.

I'll take my $130 (two phones), thanks.
 
Absolutely not overblown. The whole point is that they slowed down our phones without notice, causing many people to believe that they needed to spend $700 on a new phone instead of replacing the battery. I thought this was total bush-league.

I'll take my $130 (two phones), thanks.
Again, I specifically mentioned: "Now, I do agree with the lawsuit that Apple did wrong in failing to notify,"
 
I specifically said: "Now, I do agree with the lawsuit that Apple did wrong in failing to notify"
You misrepresented the voice of the lawsuit. The lawsuit was about Apple hiding this and making money off of it.

Instead you called people names.

Wouldn’t you be upset if a company made a decision that cost you $1,000 and only after news reports called them out? But you just spent $1,000+ and your 2 week return period ended. If you had known it was the battery, you could have just spent $100.

Quit defending a $3 trillion dollar company. People are right to be mad because Apple lied and misled the public.
 
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Overblown issue. Apple doing the right thing in stabilizing the device by throttling the CPU while Samsung and others say "whelp, your battery is old so it's causing your phone to reboot" and Apple gets the lawsuit while other companies go free.

What a bunch of complainers. 🤦‍♂️

Now, I do agree with the lawsuit that Apple did wrong in failing to notify, but throttling is absolutely the correct course of action which goes above and beyond what other companies fail to do.
Nope.

Apple secretly, and hidden from users, implemented software throttling, which supposedly helped hide/lessen the hardware defect that the iPhone 6S had. Again, Apple didn’t let anyone know they did this. They got exposed after people complained about terrible performance, and using diagnostic apps, it was determined the iPhone's CPU performance was being cut in half. I personally experienced this with my iPhone 6S. Then, after outrage, Apple announced what they secretly did and offered a panel in the Settings.app that gave more information and the ability to turn off the throttling.

Remember, Apple hid what they did for months. Also, I’m sure it was just a biiiiiiiiig coincidence that people's iPhone 6S magically became slow (throttled) around the same time the new iPhone came out.
 
Yes I remember. Took me months of therapy to recover from the damages incurred by Apple unveiling that after 5 years of intensive use, my battery was no longer up to the tasks and they silently decided to protect my iPhone from completely failing on me by no longer letting it pull the last bits of juice while doing its best to satisfy my hardcore needs. Shocked I was! Thank god the US is blessed with lawyers that volunteer to undo this unforgivable act of ignorance by having Apple bleed while filling their own pockets!
The software throttling started two years after the iPhone 6S was introduced, not five.

Yeah, I guess they “protected” my battery by secretly cutting my iPhone 6S’ performance in half.
 
If I remember, none of my iPhones were eligible because they were running an older iOS version at the time of the alleged battery gate throttling incident.
 
Nope.

Apple secretly, and hidden from users, implemented software throttling, which supposedly helped hide/lessen the hardware defect that the iPhone 6S had. Again, Apple didn’t let anyone know they did this.
Please read what I said: "Now, I do agree with the lawsuit that Apple did wrong in failing to notify"

And no, it's not a defect. All modern phones with CPUs that are power hungry will experience this. It's physics.
Remember, Apple hid what they did for months. Also, I’m sure it was just a biiiiiiiiig coincidence that people's iPhone 6S magically became slow (throttled) around the same time the new iPhone came out.

Because that's around the time when the battery chemistry of day one owners started to experience issues. Again, it's physics. iPhone 7 started experiencing this several months later.

If Apple really wanted to squeeze money, would you think they would throttle iPhone 5 users *before* iPhone 6S users? That's because iPhone 5 users didn't experience sudden shutdown/reboot issues as soon as 6S users experienced it.



Like I said. Overblown.
 
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The issue is that apple did not tell people and people thought that their phones were broken and thus spent hundreds on new iPhones or battery repair.

Apple not being upfront + benefiting from people buying new iPhones was a very scummy thing of Apple.

Trust is paramount with customers and Apple failed.
And having your phone restart randomly would NOT make people think their phone is broken?
 
And having your phone restart randomly would NOT make people think their phone is broken?
Lying about slowing down people’s iPhones was never acceptable. Apple buried this in a .1 update and at the time there was no ability to turn it off. Not sure why that’s so hard for you two to understand.

Apple is paying out $500M because they settled. They knew going to court would result in a jury or a judge issuing a much larger award. This is as a clear as it gets to admitting wrong doing. $500,000,000 of wrong doing and misleading the consumer.
 
Lying about slowing down people’s iPhones was never acceptable. Apple buried this in a .1 update and at the time there was no ability to turn it off. Not sure why that’s so hard for you two to understand.

Apple is paying out $500M because they settled. They knew going to court would result in a jury or a judge issuing a much larger award. This is as a clear as it gets to admitting wrong doing. $500,000,000 of wrong doing and misleading the consumer.
Settling does not mean you admit fault. Not even close in most cases.

Also, where did they "lie". Not mentioning something in an update is not the same as lying.
 
Overblown issue. Apple doing the right thing in stabilizing the device by throttling the CPU while Samsung and others say "whelp, your battery is old so it's causing your phone to reboot" and Apple gets the lawsuit while other companies go free.

What a bunch of complainers. 🤦‍♂️

Now, I do agree with the lawsuit that Apple did wrong in failing to notify, but throttling is absolutely the correct course of action which goes above and beyond what other companies fail to do.

My 6S was throttled after less then two years of ownership and was slower then my iPhone 6 which I still had.
 
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