Apple Withdraws iPhone 4s, 5c Handsets From India

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Apple has ceased sales of some of its older iPhone models in India in a bid to improve its flagging profitability and average selling price in the country.

The company today withdrew the iPhone 4s, which was selling for as low as Rs 12,000 ($175), in a move aimed at increasing share and acquiring new customers. Apple also stopped selling its iPhone 5c model, priced at Rs 20,000 ($292), marking the company's exit from India's fast-growing sub-Rs 20,000 mobile market, reports The Economic Times.

According to Counterpoint Research, Apple's average selling price in India increased sequentially during the last quarter of 2015 due to the introduction of the iPhone 6s, but it declined 20 percent compared to that a year ago. Analysts believe the latest move is likely to lead to an increase in share for its main rival Samsung as well as Chinese brands.


However, senior analyst at Counterpoint Research, Tarun Pathak, believes the iPhone 5s will fill the gap created by the removal of the iPhone 4s.

"The recent price cut of iPhone 5s is in line with Apple's strategy of positioning this model as affordable in emerging countries and will continue to pull an aspirational young audience looking to upgrade their smartphones in the midsegment," said Pathak.

In December, Apple cut the prices of its iPhone 6s and 6s Plus handsets in India by up to 16 percent, following a reported dive in sales. The move quickly followed Apple's decision to halve the price of iPhone 5s, from 45,500 Rupees to 24,999 Rupees.

Apple CEO Tim Cook recently earmarked India's booming mobile market as a significant focus of energy for the company. Over 200 million people own smartphones there, which is still less than a third of the country's population.

Today also saw the launch of India's cheapest smartphone, a $7 handset being manufactured by domestic handset maker Ringing Bells as part of the government's Made in India campaign.

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autrefois

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Dear India,

We're glad that you like our products. In fact, over 200 million people in India have an iPhone.

But frankly, we're not making enough money off of you. If you really like Apple, it's time to pay up.

We're getting rid of our most affordable phones, effective immediately. So buy one of our more expensive phones right away. We'll be happy you did.

Love,
Apple
 

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After speaking with some people from India, My understanding is they won't buy Apple or anything US because it's a US company. I asked you live in the US but won't buy US. Answer "yes". Apparently they come here for the money and nothing else. One guy admitting he hates it here with a passion but loves screwing us over.
For the record I get around a lot due to my job. Get the chance to talk to many different people from all over the world. Best non-US citizens to talk with Russians and Africans.
 

PinkyMacGodess

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Is Apple starting to realize that their supply chain is wrapping around their necks?

Too many products, too many versions of the products, too fast a 'churn' in their product releases.

'New' iPads every year? 'New' iPhones every year? A new Apple Watch every year?

I already passed on buying an Apple Watch, even though I really want one, because 'wait for the 'new' Apple Watch' makes more sense. Why buy one now, when it's going to be worth a heck of a lot less in, what? One month? Three months? Six months? Hmm...

And keeping the iPhone 4s going makes sense how? They dropped the 5c, right? And they were still selling it why?
 

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After speaking with some people from India, My understanding is they won't buy Apple or anything US because it's a US company. I asked you live in the US but won't buy US. Answer "yes". Apparently they come here for the money and nothing else. One guy admitting he hates it here with a passion but loves screwing us over.
For the record I get around a lot due to my job. Get the chance to talk to many different people from all over the world. Best non-US citizens to talk with Russians and Africans.
I agree. Americans - especially Californians - wear rose-colored glasses when they look at Indians. They think they are all holy. A visit to India should prove otherwise, but many gullible American cultists refuse to ever even consider that India is the most debased, idolatrous, corrupt country on the planet. Many Indians are aware of the problems their country faces, but most defend it and slate the US and China while claiming that India is the best, richest, most powerful country on earth.

Europeans - and especially the British - have, for the most part, an entirely different view of India and Pakistan.
 

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After speaking with some people from India, My understanding is they won't buy Apple or anything US because it's a US company. I asked you live in the US but won't buy US. Answer "yes". Apparently they come here for the money and nothing else. One guy admitting he hates it here with a passion but loves screwing us over.
For the record I get around a lot due to my job. Get the chance to talk to many different people from all over the world. Best non-US citizens to talk with Russians and Africans.
Wow.. so after, which I strongly believe is your own deformed mental creation, 'speaking with some people from India' quantifies to the entire population ? amazing :confused: conclusion!!

Also, people coming to the US to make money ? Isn't that a surprise now! :rolleyes: I'm sure every other first gen. immigrant, including..well pretty much every continent.. comes here for a different reason ? I suggest you go back and read the US history before displaying your extreme lack of IQ!

Again, ONE guy loves screwing the US over LOL..

You sure get around a lot... seems like with a pink slip!

Best non-US citizens to talk with are Russians and Africans! lol.. which one are YOU ?
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I agree. Americans - especially Californians - wear rose-colored glasses when they look at Indians. They think they are all holy. A visit to India should prove otherwise, but many gullible American cultists refuse to ever even consider that India is the most debased, idolatrous, corrupt country on the planet. Many Indians are aware of the problems their country faces, but most defend it and slate the US and China while claiming that India is the best, richest, most powerful country on earth.

Europeans - and especially the British - have, for the most part, an entirely different view of India and Pakistan.
Hmm... who claims India is the most richest or powerful country ? What are your sources ? Anything to back up your POS statement ?

Putting India and Pak in the same statement is direct reflection of your ignorance and lack of awareness.. I should stop right there .. I guess I will..it's really hard to debate with uneducated bottom feeders!
 

NtDs90

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Wow.. so after, which I strongly believe is your own deformed mental creation, 'speaking with some people from India' quantifies to the entire population ? amazing :confused: conclusion!!

Also, people coming to the US to make money ? Isn't that a surprise now! :rolleyes: I'm sure every other first gen. immigrant, including..well pretty much every continent.. comes here for a different reason ? I suggest you go back and read the US history before displaying your extreme lack of IQ!

Again, ONE guy loves screwing the US over LOL..

You sure get around a lot... seems like with a pink slip!

Best non-US citizens to talk with are Russians and Africans! lol.. which one are YOU ?
1-I never said it represents the entire population. I'm sure there are good people from India, I just haven't met one yet. I look forward to meeting a good one and having a good conversation with them.

2-Making money is everyones' goal in life. My included. Everyone is a capitalist. There is no such thing as a socialist, communist, or anything else. Money rules all. Some people use titles as socialist or communist or religion just as a means to steal other peoples money. Some people just earn it. Get with reality. And I was using one as an example.

3-I am a born and raised American. Minnesota to be exact. I've just had the opportunity to meet people from other countries.

4-I've never been fired from a job. How about you? Oh and my job is by far more important to the everyday lives of others than almost all other jobs. People that do my job are probably more important to our continued society than even the US president. Think about what you need to survive before you answer.

FYI my IQ is 125-129. It been tested by certified doctors. Twice. But that's a hole other deal.
 

Oblivious.Robot

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Wow.. so after, which I strongly believe is your own deformed mental creation, 'speaking with some people from India' quantifies to the entire population ? amazing :confused: conclusion!!

Also, people coming to the US to make money ? Isn't that a surprise now! :rolleyes: I'm sure every other first gen. immigrant, including..well pretty much every continent.. comes here for a different reason ? I suggest you go back and read the US history before displaying your extreme lack of IQ!

Again, ONE guy loves screwing the US over LOL..

You sure get around a lot... seems like with a pink slip!

Best non-US citizens to talk with are Russians and Africans! lol.. which one are YOU ?
[doublepost=1455730631][/doublepost]

Hmm... who claims India is the most richest or powerful country ? What are your sources ? Anything to back up your POS statement ?

Putting India and Pak in the same statement is direct reflection of your ignorance and lack of awareness.. I should stop right there .. I guess I will..it's really hard to debate with uneducated bottom feeders!
It's sad state of utter hatefulness that some have over India.
Replying to their comments and trying to have a near decent discussion on the matter would be rather futile.
Like the one who just said, "rose coloured glasses" still lacks in the irony that he/she themselves are supposedly looking a nation, a democracy at that through their very own version of "glasses".

A cheap shot perhaps, probably their level of thinking but most definitely one of them just lost their job over an Indian who was supposedly more qualified.

I'm sad really, listening to harsh words of supposedly "reality" over a country I was born, and still live in most of the time.
Surprisingly, I have very high regards to the west and the east at that.

Regardless a certain level of critique is absolutely necessary, and I am all ears for that.
Which just makes the above comments just so much more irrational had India not been improving around it's rather early days of Independence and was literally picking and healing itself, fixing all of the literal issues mentioned, they would have certainly had a point.
Case and point, which other country is doing better in the Indian subcontinent?


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On the matter of article itself, 5S at least here in Mumbai is selling like hot cake.
Friends who are/were devoted Samsung/Nexus users are definitely switching, although with occasional rant over the 16/32Gb devices, but I should say for a lot of people who can afford this are positively looking forward to iPhone 7 alongside me.
 
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M5RahuL

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1-I never said it represents the entire population. I'm sure there are good people from India, I just haven't met one yet. I look forward to meeting a good one and having a good conversation with them.

2-Making money is everyones' goal in life. My included. Everyone is a capitalist. There is no such thing as a socialist, communist, or anything else. Money rules all. Some people use titles as socialist or communist or religion just as a means to steal other peoples money. Some people just earn it. Get with reality. And I was using one as an example.

3-I am a born and raised American. Minnesota to be exact. I've just had the opportunity to meet people from other countries.

4-I've never been fired from a job. How about you? Oh and my job is by far more important to the everyday lives of others than almost all other jobs. People that do my job are probably more important to our continued society than even the US president. Think about what you need to survive before you answer.

FYI my IQ is 125-129. It been tested by certified doctors. Twice. But that's a hole other deal.
Now, that we got your IQ, or lack thereof, and real job out of the way, let's address the rest of your fantasy.

1 - And, I quote " After speaking with some people from India, My understanding is they won't buy Apple or anything US because it's a US company. I asked you live in the US but won't buy US. Answer "yes". Apparently they come here for the money and nothing else. One guy admitting he hates it here with a passion but loves screwing us over "

If that isn't clearly implying India in general ?

2 - WTF was your point then in saying ' They come here just for the money ' ? What else would they come here for ? Oh, and Indians living in the US, in general, have contributed MUCH more to the welfare of US economy than your average US born citizen. Look it up and educate yourself!

3 - You may have met a handful of people from various walks of life. But, your post reeks of a judgmental personality which negates any credence to your statement!

4 - I've been working for myself since HS.

Never been fired from a job ... yeah it'd suck to be fired from a min wage job.. back to flipping kid!
 

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Wow.. so after, which I strongly believe is your own deformed mental creation, 'speaking with some people from India' quantifies to the entire population ? amazing :confused: conclusion!!

Also, people coming to the US to make money ? Isn't that a surprise now! :rolleyes: I'm sure every other first gen. immigrant, including..well pretty much every continent.. comes here for a different reason ? I suggest you go back and read the US history before displaying your extreme lack of IQ!

Again, ONE guy loves screwing the US over LOL..

You sure get around a lot... seems like with a pink slip!

Best non-US citizens to talk with are Russians and Africans! lol.. which one are YOU ?
[doublepost=1455730631][/doublepost]

Hmm... who claims India is the most richest or powerful country ? What are your sources ? Anything to back up your POS statement ?

Putting India and Pak in the same statement is direct reflection of your ignorance and lack of awareness.. I should stop right there .. I guess I will..it's really hard to debate with uneducated bottom feeders!
Yeah whatever Rahul lol. Glad you're so happy there - no need to come visiting.
 

NtDs90

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Now, that we got your IQ, or lack thereof, and real job out of the way, let's address the rest of your fantasy.

1 - And, I quote " After speaking with some people from India, My understanding is they won't buy Apple or anything US because it's a US company. I asked you live in the US but won't buy US. Answer "yes". Apparently they come here for the money and nothing else. One guy admitting he hates it here with a passion but loves screwing us over "

If that isn't clearly implying India in general ?

2 - WTF was your point then in saying ' They come here just for the money ' ? What else would they come here for ? Oh, and Indians living in the US, in general, have contributed MUCH more to the welfare of US economy than your average US born citizen. Look it up and educate yourself!

3 - You may have met a handful of people from various walks of life. But, your post reeks of a judgmental personality which negates any credence to your statement!

4 - I've been working for myself since HS.

Never been fired from a job ... yeah it'd suck to be fired from a min wage job.. back to flipping kid!
Again you missed it.
"some people from India" I never said or implied everyone from India. Implying would have been "all Indian people". Try to understand the difference.

As far as min wage job. Never had one. I've never had a job that made less than 60k a year. Even in high school. I consider myself lucky in that regard.

"Indians living in the US, in general, have contributed MUCH more to the welfare of US economy than your average US born citizen" In my experience that has not been the case. Maybe in yours

I can tell by your posts that this subject has touched a nerve. Maybe you are Indian and it's ok if you are. I don't hold anyone's race or background against them. Maybe you should learn that your race, ethnic background, or any other difference you may have with others doesn't really matter. Humans are humans. All inner parts are interchangeable. Your life experiences and mine are different. So there will be differences of opinion.
 

M5RahuL

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Again you missed it.
"some people from India" I never said or implied everyone from India. Implying would have been "all Indian people". Try to understand the difference.

As far as min wage job. Never had one. I've never had a job that made less than 60k a year. Even in high school. I consider myself lucky in that regard.

"Indians living in the US, in general, have contributed MUCH more to the welfare of US economy than your average US born citizen" In my experience that has not been the case. Maybe in yours

I can tell by your posts that this subject has touched a nerve. Maybe you are Indian and it's ok if you are. I don't hold anyone's race or background against them. Maybe you should learn that your race, ethnic background, or any other difference you may have with others doesn't really matter. Humans are humans. All inner parts are interchangeable. Your life experiences and mine are different. So there will be differences of opinion.
I don't .. || sigh || ... think your understood the connotation of your original post! I'll just leave it there since it's obviously above your thought threshold.

As for Indians in the US, here's a couple of links to (maybe) enlighten you : http://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/indian-immigrants-united-states

Also, http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/09/30/5-facts-about-indian-americans/

Finally, yes I am Indian.. And, the only thing that irks me is the intellectually disabled people who think the world emanates and revolves around the US.
 

NtDs90

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I don't .. || sigh || ... think your understood the connotation of your original post! I'll just leave it there since it's obviously above your thought threshold.

As for Indians in the US, here's a couple of links to (maybe) enlighten you : http://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/indian-immigrants-united-states

Also, http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/09/30/5-facts-about-indian-americans/

Finally, yes I am Indian.. And, the only thing that irks me is the intellectually disabled people who think the world emanates and revolves around the US.
As I suspected.
One ?
Do think the world would be better or worse with out the USA?

Have a nice day.
 

Sea Bass

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1-I never said it represents the entire population. I'm sure there are good people from India, I just haven't met one yet. I look forward to meeting a good one and having a good conversation with them.
I've had a similar experience. The ones who come to the US as adults tend to have that "old country" mindset. But the Americanized ones who are born and raised here are far less likely to feel that way, however many times their parents might take them to India as a child.
 
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As an Indian living in Canada since past 6 years, I can say that most Indians I meet have this weird thing where they criticize the west and yet they don't want to go back. They actually go on about India being the best, most powerful country and being totally oblivious to the realities.

And well I for one didn't come here for money, I came here for the much better quality of life and environment, away from the maddening pollution of New Delhi and the mad corruption I faced at every step of my life there.

I can't say enough about how much better life here is as compared to how it was back there, and I am grateful to Canada for giving me this opportunity. I can never even dream of criticizing the country which gave me so much in the end.
 
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NtDs90

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I've had a similar experience. The ones who come to the US as adults tend to have that "old country" mindset. But the Americanized ones who are born and raised here are far less likely to feel that way, however many times their parents might take them to India as a child.
I agree.
 

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Harkening back to the inner 5-year old in you I see. :) That thing feels like a toy to me!
Honestly, I don't miss the 3.5" screen, but I miss the tiny device and the quality heft it had. I remember being happier with it than I was with my current device, but I wanted a larger screen and LTE
 

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Indians are very similar to the Chinese in that they like the latest and greatest thing. There is no reason for them to even bother selling the 4S and outdated junk there. Release phones at the same time as China. People will buy them there.

For those people looking at lower end iOS devices, there are dozens of cheaper Android alternatives with better specs and features.
 
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