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Apple Working on Security Measures to Make iOS Devices 'It Can't Hack'
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Okay, FBI (freakin' brutal Instigators)....
Let's trade...you guys need to provide us, the public, the access to your files/data...including your wife's or husband's phone number and addresses....all the evidence...and i'll give you my access to iphone.....with erased data.
Let's trade...you guys need to provide us, the public, the access to your files/data...including your wife's or husband's phone number and addresses....all the evidence...and i'll give you my access to iphone.....with erased data.
Let the fur... (i mean news) fly..
If the FBI were really that smart, they wouldn't be asking Apple to create an entire OS....... u don't need an entire OS just to get into someone's encrypted phone......
Possibly... he can do anything.
If the FBI were really that smart, they wouldn't be asking Apple to create an entire OS....... u don't need an entire OS just to get into someone's encrypted phone......
Possibly... he can do anything.
Actually Apple is proving how clever they are. Maximizing the free publicity, they understand how gullible some people can be. Believing every word Apple speaks, the devotees are lapping this up. Make no mistake, the Apple Marketing Machine is very effective.
I generally support Apple in all this, but doesn't that work the other way as well? So much of the phone's functionality depends on access to a network and someone else's server somewhere in the internet. With enough resources I would imagine that it wouldn't be too difficult for an agency or well-funded private organization to piece together intelligence from your network activity. Marketers are in a way already doing this and so are security agencies. That capability will only get more sophisticated. End to end encryption, like iMessage uses, helps, but the phone is only one piece in a whole network of activity.
Believe me I realize it. I find it semi hilarious, but my inner naiveté is still saying "Go Apple!"
You seem to be totally under a spell. I wonder who has you hoodwinked?
And yet Apple wanted to keep this quiet and we first heard about it from the FBI. Why did the FBI make it public? My gut, and anecdotal evidence, tells me they did it to garner public support, you know, by getting free publicity for the issue--otherwise known as a marketing tactic.
One things for certain, this is one very interesting contest between the Feds and Apple!
In trying to force Apple to weaken iOS, law enforcement will fuel Apple to create an even more secure system. Oh the sweet irony.
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It would crumble under His Mighty Hand as He lifted it. So yes He did lift it, but it did not survive the lift.
Here's the plain truth. Apple asked the FBI to get the court order in private, and Apple would have battled in private. The FBI has an agenda, so they went to the press thinking they could use terrorism to force Apple's hand. They fired the first shot. They didn't expect Tim Cook to go nuclear with that first letter and subsequent statements. Too bad FBI, you failed. Now you'll see an iPhone that cannot be broken into no matter how many court orders you get. Wanna cry about it? I'd rather die in a terror attack than live in a society where the government can dictate how I communicate.
People locked up in Saudi Arabia and China will be thankful for Apple's stance. The evidence on their phones could well lead to the death penalty for dissidents and gays in some of Apple's markets.
Apple can't say yes to the FBI and then say no to similar requests in other markets.
Apple can't say yes to the FBI and then say no to similar requests in other markets.
I knew it! I knew Apple would double down on their encryption/security after this.
Good for them!
You can't leave even the smallest weakness in an OS/program or else criminals and especially governments will try to find ways to exploit it or compel an individual/company to exploit their own products for them.
Good for them!
You can't leave even the smallest weakness in an OS/program or else criminals and especially governments will try to find ways to exploit it or compel an individual/company to exploit their own products for them.
What are we talking about here? Is supposed to provide a master encryption key to decrypt data or are they supposed to build custom firmware to make the phone hard hackable without restrictions? The master decryption key would be a HUGE mistake and would set up crazy precedent for security breaches around the globe. The custom firmware would be slightly problematic for a generation or two until apple patches this ability to load custom firmware that can't be spoofed. Right now, we can already load custom firmware with a spoofed certificate and hence be able to "Jailbreak" or root the phones. You can access data via ssh this way already. This really shouldn't be an issue for Apple to handle but rather for government agencies to hire highly skilled hackers to break into devices. Why doesn't the US Government hire these hackers to get the information? It makes them seem completely inept and without means to resources right now. The Chinese government have their own data analysts, hackers, crackers, cryptologists to handle their tech and networks. I don't see why the US can't do the same. Then again, China also has different laws and also has the right to spy on their own citizens for national security. China also has a legal system where you aren't presumed innocent before proven guilty.
Problem is, Obama supports the FBI's case...
I kind of regret to have voted for him...
Calls to mind the shred-it-all scene from Argo.
I don't know why legal data-gathering has been such a problem for the Feds when they have NCSD, CALEA, etc.
Maybe Apple will give Ken Thompson a ton of money to build new compilers the right way and to thwart things that would have us not Trusting Trust, etc.
Karma. That's what the FBI gets for daring to stir the hornet's nest.
No emotional equivocation at all. In fact, that was the very first thing I tried to address.
What you spoke about is truly not a future that I would wish upon us. No-one in their right mind would want that.
But there is a very large disconnect between the case at hand here and the possible future you just described.
It is not unprecedented for a government to ask a bank to open the safe of a criminal, or to freeze their funds, or to subpoena emails for use as evidence in court. So why is the phone, a digital safe, so sacred?
This is one phone. A phone from a recently deceased terrorist yes, but one that presumably could have been used during the planning stages of the attack. Who knows where that leads? Would you not want the authorities to follow this lead, after getting a valid warrant from a judge?
I think the emotional backlash over this case has caused fear-mongering to grow, on both sides.
For the umpteenth time, this isn't about one friggin' phone. What they've asked Apple to do goes far beyond simply asking them to give them data ... data which they don't have access to [because the data was never backed up to Apple's iCloud servers] or are capable of retrieving for the FBI thanks to the the FBI borking up that opportunity by activating the failsafes within the phone. You don't appear to have any idea what you're talking about because you don't seem to grasp the gravitas of the situation.
If this backdoor is created ... and falls into the wrong hands ... people's entire lives are in their phones ... this includes things ranging from credit card numbers, possibly social security numbers, and a plethora of other things that baddies with these backdoor tools could have access to ... and there are half a billion iPhones around the world. Can you even stop to think for just a moment how bad it would be if this backdoor could be accessed by the worst kinds of people who's only purpose in life is to destroy the lives of others?
Scope, people. Get some.
That's an illogical jump. It sounds to me like Apple knows that they won't have to go through this circus again if they make a phone that they have no possible way to compromise.
The system of Domination and Control is grinding its teeth over Apple.
It was staged, just like Sandy Hook, the Boston bombing and most of the rest. The Truman show is live and running.
It was staged, just like Sandy Hook, the Boston bombing and most of the rest. The Truman show is live and running.