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Apple Working to Add Support for Sideloading and Alternate App Stores in Europe
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if you are „dumb“ enough to potentially install malicious software, you are probably too dumb to even enable the sideloading feature. I am sure it will be hidden in some developer settings like on Android.
Also, I have yet to find an App that is not ALSO available on the PlayStore (unless google bans it) so I doubt developers will drop the AppStore. If anything, they will just offer different sources to download their Apps. Thus, also no loss if you choose not to sideload 🤷🏼♂️
I actually wouldn’t be surprised if Apple is like „enabling sideloading will deactivate iCloud and / or ApplePay. Do you wish to proceed?“ to „technically“ allow it, but people won’t because of that. Loophole like their home repair solution
Also, I have yet to find an App that is not ALSO available on the PlayStore (unless google bans it) so I doubt developers will drop the AppStore. If anything, they will just offer different sources to download their Apps. Thus, also no loss if you choose not to sideload 🤷🏼♂️
I actually wouldn’t be surprised if Apple is like „enabling sideloading will deactivate iCloud and / or ApplePay. Do you wish to proceed?“ to „technically“ allow it, but people won’t because of that. Loophole like their home repair solution
Can we get them and their functionality BACK. I've been using iPhone since 3GS and it was great to have a wifi and lan scanner in my pocket. Then Apple decided with iOS5 I believe (edit: it was actually all the way up to 11) that direct access to the network card, or even the ability to view MAC addresses of network devices, is a security issue because reasons.
They even now have a local network scanning PERMISSION, which every sleazy app wants to use to map my network, but it apparently doesn't work for actual network scanners displaying the MAC address.
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You could technically ditch technology.
It's inevitable so they might as well do it regardless of the relative merits. I wouldn't be surprised if they will only allow "official" alternate app stores that pay Apple for access. In fact that would almost be like a franchise type mentality. I can see that and it would mitigate some of the potential issues.
I understand Apple's reasoning behind the App Store being safer, the problem is that it just doesn't work that way anymore. There are tons of scam apps in the App Store. Apple's system model is already so locked down that most of the protections are on-device anyway. And they have been overly restrictive in just about every way with their control of the App Store.
I used to be against sideloading, but now I say bring it on. Apple these days does not do the right thing on its own when it comes to software policies, by and large.
If they are to be the sole gatekeeper to software on the iPhone, they have to be good stewards, and they simply have not been. Especially lately, it's more about money and control than about the user. I don't want to have to switch to Android to run reasonable software simply because Apple's policies don't allow it.
I was previously against opening iOS up. But more recently see this as the right move. Apple threatening to ban twitter was the obvious example where Apple proved themselves as nothing but a greedy censor. Yes sure they back-pedaled quickly on that... because they realized how ugly it looked. Does not mean it wont happen again in the future.
I sure can't wait to deal with the first relative who punches themselves in the balls with this.
Finally!
This iphone being lockedown, yet macbook open app distribution farce has been a long running bad joke.
The modern phone is a really a portable computer, which can make calls. Apple has been abusing the situation forcing all apps through its own storefront by farcial reasoning it could never use with macbooks simply because of precident.
Only a matter of time before the smoke and mirrors game ends. The idea that the computer in my pocket wont let me add apps from outside apple store is nonsense. If you only want apps from the app store, thats your choice, just like on a macbook. The false equivancy of buying the hardware means determining the source of its applicatons is outrageous, especially when there has been operating system duopoloy for years now.
This iphone being lockedown, yet macbook open app distribution farce has been a long running bad joke.
The modern phone is a really a portable computer, which can make calls. Apple has been abusing the situation forcing all apps through its own storefront by farcial reasoning it could never use with macbooks simply because of precident.
Only a matter of time before the smoke and mirrors game ends. The idea that the computer in my pocket wont let me add apps from outside apple store is nonsense. If you only want apps from the app store, thats your choice, just like on a macbook. The false equivancy of buying the hardware means determining the source of its applicatons is outrageous, especially when there has been operating system duopoloy for years now.
Im glad you are able to make that choice. I will make my choice to install software without creepy gatekeepers. I had quit buying iOS apps, now I may toss some iOS devs $$ again..
LOL, that's your counter argument? What does Russia have to do with anyone anyway, unless you live in Russia?
China already harvests their users' privacy and data on iPhones. That affects the non-Chinese how?
I happily pay for apps. I want to support developers and know they'll only keep adding features and making quality apps if they get paid (just like you wouldn't work for free).
Cheap folks may like stealing apps through the alternative stores but keep in mind folks can insert anything into those bundles. Tested it with Cydia years ago and tens of thousands downloaded the app without having any idea what was packaged inside it.
Cheap folks may like stealing apps through the alternative stores but keep in mind folks can insert anything into those bundles. Tested it with Cydia years ago and tens of thousands downloaded the app without having any idea what was packaged inside it.
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Nice! I don't know If I'm tripping or not but Sideloading reminds me of Jailbreaking your iPhone. It's basically the same concept. Am I totally off?
Hoping that tvOS will be included.
Bring it to the US, too.
Bring it to the US, too.
Apple never said they were going to ban Twitter. I wish people actually fact checked the crud they are repeating.
That was a complete fabrication by Musk to gain attention and try and undercut the app store rules. After a short tour round the Apple HQ and probably a demonstration of the large platoon of lawyers Tim has ready to roll on this sort of stuff, Musk backed down and just put the prices up for Twitter on iOS.
that would certainly be nice for emu…
mac is not exactly top-of-the list right now for most emu devs. tvOS accessibility could totally change that.
Looks good on paper for developers but it remains to be seen if any iPhone users will dare download an app outside the authentic Apple App Store.
I know for me personally — I’d never download an app from anywhere but the App Store. That place is scary enough as it is
I know for me personally — I’d never download an app from anywhere but the App Store. That place is scary enough as it is
You prove the point. So why laugh?
Your phone isn’t living in isolation. If it is compromised all your contacts are also compromised. There have been journalists whose phones have been hacked for family details. Their families were threatened to silence the journalists.
to put it simply. you will have the power to install software on a device you purchased. just like you do on a mac.
Somehow those of us who own pc's and macs have managed to navigate this possible problem for 20+ years. Will be no different on a phone, which is nothing more than a small computer afterall.
Great news! Apple's monopolistic stranglehold on app distribution is rapidly coming to an end.
We may see alternate app stores worldwide, but every store will have to conform to a single set of security rules.
say what you will about sideloading/alternative app stores—I never had Cydia installed, what are you talking about?—but having it forced by the government seems entirely unreasonable. elected officials did not go to school for cybersecurity—they do not understand how easy it is to fool the average user, let alone demographics that are highly prone to scamming (I have to tell my grandmother at least once a month that an email is a scam, and she’s one of the lucky ones in terms of that frequency). does that mean everyone will be running to sideload scummy apps/third-party app stores? no. does it mean that fools are far more prone to an email saying “you need this app, sideload it onto your phone!”—yes.
I am a wholehearted supporter of governments stepping in when corporations/entities are literally destroying the Earth—Big Oil, massive crypto mining farms, so forth. I am not a supporter of governments stepping in when they feel tech companies are being “anticompetitive” because they want third-party apps on their products to be properly vetted by a team within their company.
this is perhaps the only part that gives me solace.
(P.S.—I am well aware of the App Store having its fair share of embarrassments over the years, but they represent a fraction of the store as a whole.)
I am a wholehearted supporter of governments stepping in when corporations/entities are literally destroying the Earth—Big Oil, massive crypto mining farms, so forth. I am not a supporter of governments stepping in when they feel tech companies are being “anticompetitive” because they want third-party apps on their products to be properly vetted by a team within their company.
this is perhaps the only part that gives me solace.
(P.S.—I am well aware of the App Store having its fair share of embarrassments over the years, but they represent a fraction of the store as a whole.)
How did so many of you ever manage to use a computer at all without safety rails protecting your every move. If I've learned nothing else over the last 25 years in this industry: The irrational fear that people have about technology and the steadfast unwillingness to take control of their own op sec.
There's nothing wrong with the App Store. It's a great service. I'm sure it will continue to be the dominant method for downloading software onto iOS devices. But this pearl clutching over those of us in the fringes who understand both the power and responsibility of going outside of the cattle pen is just too much. Boogie men behind every corner.
There's nothing wrong with the App Store. It's a great service. I'm sure it will continue to be the dominant method for downloading software onto iOS devices. But this pearl clutching over those of us in the fringes who understand both the power and responsibility of going outside of the cattle pen is just too much. Boogie men behind every corner.