If you want to buy an Xbox, there's more than one SKU for it. If you want to buy an Xbox game, there's more than one SKU for it. But now the ACM thinks more than one SKU for a dating app is somehow a problem? When did that become a thing?
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Apple Would Rather Pay Up to €50 Million in Fines Than Address 'Gatekeeper' App Store Behavior, Says EU Chief
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I think Apple should reduce fees but keep the Store as the sole outlet. It's just so easy for users to track and cancel subscriptions, reinstall apps, etc. via the Apple Store. That said, I think governments everywhere are slowly going to force change.
its their store they should be able to do what they want
I can see where Apple is heading with this and it is heading to a court trial where a Judge will have to decide if what Apple is doing is within the confines of the law or not. The way i see it working is that Apple will stand firm, the dutch ACM will impose the maximum fine, Apple will pay it but still stand firm. The dutch ACM will then find another way to penalise Apple because they would have already gone as far as they can with the current system. Because Apple will still not have complied with the original dutch court ruling, the dutch ACM will impose some kind of sales ban which Apple will say it illegal and challenge the legality in court. Apple will then argue that they complied with the original courts ruling doing so within the confines of the law and what the dutch ACM is doing it interfering with a companies right to do business.
Apple will want a Judge to decide if they have complied with the original courts ruling, not the ACM and thus Apple will wait for the ACM to slip up which would allow Apple to then take the matter to court.
I remember a few years back reading an article about a millionaire in London who kept racking up parking fines on his very expensive flashy car because where he was parking it was not allowed but in an interview with the tabloid press he said he did not care because he can afford the fines.
Wealth breeds arrogance behaviour.
Apple will want a Judge to decide if they have complied with the original courts ruling, not the ACM and thus Apple will wait for the ACM to slip up which would allow Apple to then take the matter to court.
I remember a few years back reading an article about a millionaire in London who kept racking up parking fines on his very expensive flashy car because where he was parking it was not allowed but in an interview with the tabloid press he said he did not care because he can afford the fines.
Wealth breeds arrogance behaviour.
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Apple has basically laughed at only $5M/month... which means either there is more profit than that in 30% from Dating apps there and/or the perception of doing something there to comply makes them think many other countries will expect the same.
Do the Dutch choose to respond? I find myself thinking of this...
Do the Dutch choose to respond? I find myself thinking of this...
Yawnnnn, not again those analogies...
On top of all the lawsuits, this will hit Apple so hard...
Companies that do not comply with the new obligations may risk fines up to 10% on their worldwide turnover
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The ACM has added an arbitrary element on top of the original issue: requiring a single SKU. Can the ACM really make much of an argument that multiple SKUs are harmful to developers or consumers? It's standard practice in the business.
Have fun being re-elected if you're the person stopping people from getting an iPhone.
When companies are making sooo much more than what they’re being fined for doing so, what’s the point of abiding by the spirit of the fine?
The sooner that fines start making a real dent into the vast amounts of profit being garnered the sooner companies might actually curtail the practices that incur the fines.
Unfortunately governing bodies still operate in a Dr Evil world where “Millions!” of dollars matter to these corporations.
The sooner that fines start making a real dent into the vast amounts of profit being garnered the sooner companies might actually curtail the practices that incur the fines.
Unfortunately governing bodies still operate in a Dr Evil world where “Millions!” of dollars matter to these corporations.
It's the correct analogy. Multiple SKUs are a standard practice in the hardware/software industry. What reason does the ACM really have for insisting on a single SKU? There doesn't seem to be one.Yawnnnn, not again those analogies...
On top of all the lawsuits, this will hit Apple so hard...
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Margrethe Vestager is still bitter over her complete and utter loss against Apple in the Ireland & taxes case?
Another easy solution would be to simply remove all dating apps from the Netherlands store. When the local people complain, tell them to talk to their regulators about common sense. Apple created their APP store and it has delivered apps and functioned very well. Now there are upstarts that do not want to front any money but still profit off of Apples considerable investments. I believe their is a farm term for this......
No this is not a solution, maybe a "temporary' solution, because this all won't end in NL only.
So companies are above governments now? This doesn’t sound right
I think apple will soon find out that they can’t ignore the law for too long, and that if the EU intervenes they’ll have to do a lot more than the Dutch government is asking. Some food for thought: the EU is the largest single market in the world, and the scope of the EU investigation is the whole App Store and not just dating apps. Furthermore, the fines EU can apply are far higher, and they can be more than monetary. In extreme cases apple could be banned from operating.
They'll have to ban a lot more hardware/software companies than Apple if they think multiple SKUs are the problem.
If the only thing stopping you from breaking a law is whether you can afford the penalty, then yes, that is thinking you're above that law.
I think you overestimate people’s attachment to iPhones. People in Europe have little sympathy for greedy corporations that try to circumvent the law. You might find that owning an iPhone might become very low on most people priority list if apple’s bad behaviour continues.
There's a law in Europe that prohibits more than one SKU for software?
It’s not the words or methods that matters, it’s the intent of such.