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Well assuming everything stays the same and do correct me if I am wrong. I remember you get free Battery replacement if your battery requires services under AppleCare+. Which actually make renewing AppleCare+ a very attractive option because a battery replacement is very likely after first 3 years.
 
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Apple couldn't get my Mac Pro repaired once, and it was discontinued so they just gave me a new machine which was worth $6000 at the time of replacement when the original (problematic) one was worth $5000 when I had bought it new. So they didn't care about the difference in cost, they just wanted to make me happy.

I suspect that is in US?
 
Historically, Apple has only made repair parts available for Macs seven years old or less. How will this work if someone keeps paying for AppleCare+ annually or monthly beyond seven years? Will Apple offer repair parts for these older Mac indefinitely?
I guess Apple now has 4+ years to figure out a solution to this. :)
 
Honestly, this move just sounds like another attempt by Apple to kill off "Right to Repair" legislation. Note how this is only being offered in the USA, for starters. But think about it.... Traditionally, everyone with a Mac that's past the warranty period ran up against Apple telling them their machine was "too old" and they no longer had parts to service it, etc. That prompted people to go to third parties for repair work. Now, Apple can just tell people to keep up renewals on AppleCare and claim that negates the need for any outsiders to service even the older Macs.

(Most likely, once your Mac gets older than what they want to keep parts for and deal with, they'll do what I've seen Chrysler do with its "lifetime vehicle warranties"; put in a clause that says they reserve the right to pay you the current book value of your computer and end the service agreement.)
 
Historically, Apple has only made repair parts available for Macs seven years old or less. How will this work if someone keeps paying for AppleCare+ annually or monthly beyond seven years? Will Apple offer repair parts for these older Mac indefinitely?

5yrs or less. 5-7yrs is vintage and only in Cupertino I think (traditionally).

This move/change could be HUGE for corporations still stuck on macOS? maybe?
 
It seems like a solution in search of a problem. By the time 3 years has past the machine should be obsolete unless we are in for another 10 year halt in progress through Intel scuffing their feet.

If you are doing work where processing power is the bottleneck perhaps; but for a significant percentage of users an older machine is quite enough. I have a 10 year old iMac that works just fine for what it is used for; but then again I'm not rendering graphics. I just gave away an old white unibody mac that I had put an SSD in and the receip[ent was thrilled because it meets their needs; it all depends on the use case.
Applecare has saved my butt numerous times and will forever be a purchase on basically any Apple product.

I'm at the point where I'm using computers for seven to ten years before they need replacing, so keeping Applecare up for more than the usual three years is super appealing.

Same here, and I use mine for work. I have a 3 year old MBP and it is more than enough for me.

I tend to keep my Mac Pros for 3-5 years. Extended cover would certainly make a high end iMac more appealing, where currently a component failure renders the device and screen useless.

Exactly. I just had a battery replaced under AC+ - to pay for it would have been $600+.

Apple couldn't get my Mac Pro repaired once, and it was discontinued so they just gave me a new machine which was worth $6000 at the time of replacement when the original (problematic) one was worth $5000 when I had bought it new. So they didn't care about the difference in cost, they just wanted to make me happy.

Same here, except they messed up a repair and rather then have me wait 3 more weeks thy gave me a new machine of equal specs.
Well assuming everything stays the same and do correct me if I am wrong. I remember you get free Battery replacement if your battery requires services under AppleCare+. Which actually make renewing AppleCare+ a very attractive option because a battery replacement is very likely after first 3 years.

My AC battery replacement more than paid for the cost of AC at the start; this, depending on the price, is cheap insurance to know I can keep my work MBP and not worry about repairs of accidental damage.
 
Historically, Apple has only made repair parts available for Macs seven years old or less. How will this work if someone keeps paying for AppleCare+ annually or monthly beyond seven years? Will Apple offer repair parts for these older Mac indefinitely?
I sure hope so. Apple's only the 2nd most valuable company in the world with a market cap that would place them as the 8th largest economy in the world if they were a country. They can definitely stand to stock parts indefinitely, especially if people are actively paying for an extended warranty.
 
Products costing this much should come with 3 years AppleCare as standard. If you want the additional protection against damage then charge extra for AppleCare+. Telephone support that doesn’t cost a fortune was the reason I switched from Windows to Mac in the first place.
 
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Historically, Apple has only made repair parts available for Macs seven years old or less. How will this work if someone keeps paying for AppleCare+ annually or monthly beyond seven years? Will Apple offer repair parts for these older Mac indefinitely?
I think if a too-old device is broke without spare parts, apple offers simple upgrade to the oldest but still supported refurbish model.
 
Usually lifetime warranties refer to the lifetime of the product, not the lifetime of the person that owns it. So basically manufacturer declares the usable lifetime of a product to be X years. So really it is an X year warranty. I would expect that is how this works and it is not truly 'indefinite'.
And that's why in some countries the term "Lifetime warranty" is considered confusing and therefore not allowed. For example, Germany, France, Austria...
 
It seems like a solution in search of a problem. By the time 3 years has past the machine should be obsolete unless we are in for another 10 year halt in progress through Intel scuffing their feet.
I don’t know many if any people that upgrade their MacBooks within 3 years. I know plenty of people with 2013 2014 2011 MacBook pro’s still. My friend still has his 2016 15”.
The average person keeps things longer than 3 years.
also, I guess my top of the line 2019 15” is obsolete after this year 3 year mark. Common now.
what is obsolete to you?
 
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Wait. This is huge. I remember the time we sent my dad's iBook G3 in for an extended repair program, it got lost in the mail, and he received a new iBook G4 since they had no more of the old model in stock. Have had to replace batteries and other parts of Macs around the 5 year mark, so good to know there'd be an option to cover that. And in the off chance something significant fails that necessitates a replacement, odds are you're getting a newer model. Given that AppleCare+ also covers accidental damage, statistically you have a good chance of a newer machine every 5-7 years.
 
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Historically, Apple has only made repair parts available for Macs seven years old or less. How will this work if someone keeps paying for AppleCare+ annually or monthly beyond seven years? Will Apple offer repair parts for these older Mac indefinitely?
When my 24" iMac kicked the bucket, and a graphics card replacement wasn't available, they actually replaced it with a 27. I've seen other warranties that will replace their older product with a new one if parts aren't available...
 
Products costing this much should come with 3 years AppleCare as standard. If you want the additional protection against damage then charge extra for AppleCare+. Telephone support that doesn’t cost a fortune was the reason I switched from Windows to Mac in the first place.
Apple would charge more for each machine if they all had a 3 year warranty because they’d spread the expected warranty costs across all machines. It would not cost as much as AppleCare since it would be spread over more machines.
 
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Does this work on a laptop that has its coverage expiring at the end of this month?
 
Only in US😡 and in AppleStore.

That problem is Apple News are dominated by US Media. And these US stories propagated through as it they are done world wide. And most of those stories were ancient.
 
Apple would charge more for each machine if they all had a 3 year warranty because they’d spread the expected warranty costs across all machines. It would not cost as much as AppleCare since it would be spread over more machines.

Most of other similarly priced laptop from HP and Dell has three years warranty by default. Now that they finally ( or may be first time in Apple history ) have an advantage in BOM cost of their product due to Apple Silicon.

I really hope they add 3 years Apple Care as standard instead of lowering price.
 
Applecare+ is a must for the new systems, I got it for my 2019 Macbook pro 16. It is worth every penny. I look at it this way. If a system costs $1600 and AppleCare is $160 for three years to protect your investment along with three years of phone support it is a great deal. My MacBook Pro was $3500 dollars so $350, worth it!
I agree 100% I always bought AppleCare for my laptops unplugging them moving them etc is harder on laptops vs. desktops - My last MBP I bought is 2019 I am sorry that I chose not to purchase AppleCare now the battery is sucking real bad - lesson learned.
 
Sounds like one of those details where it'll stop at the end of support. Have always thought Apple should take support to 10 years on Mac's (the tech just isn't advancing like it was decades ago), would love to see them boost it.
But Phil Schiller said that even five years with the same computer was "sad". Won't someone please think of Phil?
 
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