Apple's 2019 256GB MacBook Air Includes Slower SSD Than 2018 Model

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  1. BigBoy2018, Jul 15, 2019
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    That's why is drives me nuts when Apple is pushing these super fast SSD's and people that buy them are bragging about their blackmagic disk scores ... when in real world use, there's little to no benefit of a 500 MB/s SSD vs a 2000 MB/s SSD.

    I've used Macs with both speeds side by side and boot times, application launch times, file copying times are all virtually indistinguishable.
     
  2. ETJ macrumors newbie

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    Since the new line-up I believe the best value MBP 13" is the 2017 model in the refurbstore. For the same price as. the new 2019 base model you get: 256GB SSD upgrade, 16GB RAM upgrade, no Touch Bar, two fans, decent specs, faster SSD and $140 to spare.

    Sure that model would have a slower processor but I think it's a more balanced computer for the average persons need.
     
  3. sirozha macrumors 6502a

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    Better screen. Worse SSD speeds. Choose your poison.
     
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    Reinforces the value of running Benchmarks, both Synthetic & Real-World Apps, BEFORE one's 14-day return period is up !
     
  7. kp98077 macrumors 6502a

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    So where will you see that in every day usage? opening webpages? web? videos?
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    exactly, some of these people get SOO into the weeds about the data/numbers, they forget the real world experience... totally... I have both the new 2019 1.4 MBP and the 2.4 when doing normal day task, indistinguishable.... completely
     
  8. BGPL macrumors regular

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    Dear Polly Positive,
    It's not thinner, the SSD is already memory modules soldered to the main board. I think you're picturing a 2.5" SSD drive, which haven't been in MacBooks for years.

    It's slower because of the price cut. 95% of the MacBook buyers will have no idea this happened and believe they are just getting a better deal because Apple is a "good" company. Others will find out, like you have, and assume it has somehow benefited them.
     
  9. CrazyForCashews macrumors 6502

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    Wow. You don't see this often on Macrumors; someone talking sense and logic.
     
  10. DrJohnnyN Suspended

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    Not a noticeable speed decrease for daily use.
     
  11. chfilm macrumors 68020

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    Still ridiculously fast. Nobody is gonna try to edit 8k video on this machine guys!
     
  12. mrat93 macrumors 68000

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    Reminder that you can get a 1TB, 1600MB/s NVMe SSD on Amazon for under $100.

    Apple charges $600 for the MacBook Air 1TB upgrade, and for a slower SSD apparently.

    But yeah thank you Apple for finally offering fair SSD prices.
     
  13. Analog Kid macrumors 601

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    Ok, well it's clear MR knows who their audience is.

    4 benchmarks listed: one is faster in the new system, one is slower, two are the same. Headline gives unqualified "slower", and speculates without data that other devices may be slower too.
     
  14. Rogifan macrumors Core

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    I don’t get why Apple didn’t just offer a configuration that could get them to a $999 price point when they first launched this new Air. That was the time to get rid of the non-retina model (or drop the price and keep it around for education only purchases).
     
  15. brentsg macrumors 68040

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    Nobody is going to notice this in real world usage. It's also possible that they source parts from multiple suppliers so there's a lottery.

    I just hope they fix the coil whine issues.
     
  16. magbarn macrumors 68000

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    There goes the defense from the cheerleaders here who frequently spout off: "Apple get's to charge higher prices for their SSDs because they're so much faster than windoze SSDs!"

    Now that Apple's SSD's are about as slow as 1TB NVME SSD's going for ~$100-$125 means the ripoff continues...
     
  17. BlargKing macrumors 6502

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    With only 128GB of storage faster read/write speeds won't matter that much anyways. You'll only really see a benefit from higher transfer speeds if you're moving more data than that SSD is capable of holding.

    Even on my personal machine running a SATAIII SSD, the bottleneck 99% of the time isn't the SSD but whatever device I'm copying to/from.
     
  18. Analog Kid macrumors 601

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    Actually, if you're copying large files from an equally fast drive then this new SSD is about 10% faster.
     
  19. rosegoldoli macrumors 6502

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    i have the 2018 gold air and i feel the better SSD is better than True Tone Display
     
  20. Dirtfarmer macrumors regular

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    Yeah but that stock price though.

    The accountant king is keeping the stock price up! Such high stock price!

    What else matters guys. What else?

    I can't think of anything else that would matter to a technology company.

    Selling old junk at high margins is AWESOME for the stock price. Forever!!

    #FIRETHEACCOUNTANT
     
  21. LordVic macrumors 603

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    I'm surprised that they'd skimp so much on storage when the storage tiers offered are pretty run of the mill and should easily be able to handle faster than that.

    to put it in perspective. You can pick up a NVME Based 500GB SSD for retail $110 capable of 3,000+mbps sustained read/write.

    this cheapening out, especially on non-replacable parts like storage is further entrenching us old Mac fanboys that the Mac is a dumpster fire right now

    Edit:
    i'm wondering if it's not the storage itself that's slow and the bottleneck in the Air, but the lower classed CPU they downgraded to for the 2018 air. I'ts now using a "Y" series ULV (think MacBook CPU) instead of the previous Air's generation "U" series CPU. it's slower, less cores, less cache, less overall everything and less headroom for performance.

    Both of these are pretty inexcusable cheaping out though for a $1000+ laptop
     
  22. calstanford macrumors 6502

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    People are idiots when they still buy Macs from a company that clearly does not want to produce computers anymore.

    All the Air got was a tiny ass sensor as an upgrade oh an da ******** SSD. Cool guys. That's awesome after a year.
     
  23. FasterQuieter macrumors 6502

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    Given the processor is not clocked particularly high, I wonder if there will be any real world difference for load times etc. I'd be interested to see a test.
     
  24. calstanford macrumors 6502

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    It's the same screen. Just a sensor to regulate whiteness levels.
     
  25. BornAgainMac macrumors 603

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    As long as they do at least yearly updates, I am fine. None of those 5 year refresh cycles with the same prices.
     

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