I wonder how Apple will market this to the UK when the current China war has meant all Hauwei Kit is to be removed. Some reckon it's going to delay 5G roll-out by more than two years.
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Apple's 2020 5G iPhones to Support Both Sub-6GHz and mmWave, But That Might Change in 2021
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Just toggle 5G off in network settings like you can with 4G.
Just curious JPack, is there a reason why the U.S. has a lack of sub-6 frequencies? Are they already licensed / used by other branches of the government?
P.S. thanks for all your expertise and knowledge you bring to the forum. You're one of the few I follow on here just to learn more
There's been a lot of NIMBYism between various groups like the Departments of Defense, Transportation, and Education. Those groups have been holding on to swaths of mid-band spectrum that were granted to them decades ago. Nobody wants to give up spectrum because it's valuable and they could use it someday. Add in a pinch of politics and the whole thing is a mess. As a result, most U.S. wireless carriers have avoided the mid-band spectrum and bought equipment for mmWave. So the result is a 5G deployment in the U.S. that is expensive, ineffective, and will likely result in compatibility issues in the future.
Have been doing pretty similar already. iPhones with GSM only and ones with both. Apple wanted to only give gsm to Att and tmo.
Nope. EU's new 5G allocation is 400 MHz. US is getting 500 MHz, the largest "sub-6 GHz" allocation outside of China and Japan. Countries like Australia are getting 300 MHz.
If you count 150 MHz of CBRS and 5.9-7.1 GHz, the US already has the largest non-mmwave 5G spectrum in the world.
The truth is that US is significantly less dense than Europe, making cells bigger and more powerful for in-building penetration, and therefore frequency reuse is more difficult.
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What? The US has already freed up more sub-6GHz spectrum for cellular usage than any country in the world. In December the FCC is auctioning off an additional 280MHz in the C-Band space. mmWave is meant for high density areas like stadiums or city centers.
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Don’t forget the upcoming C-Band auction that’s going to free up an additional 280MHz.
I want it just for home use so I never have to mess with cable + modem + router + wifi(?) again, the first of which is often outside my control. Or worse, remote-diagnose internet problems for family members while the very communication path to them is problematic.
For Christ Sake.
You either Support Sub 6Ghz AND mmWave. Or Sub 6 ONLY.
There is no supporting mmWave and NOT Sub 6Ghz. Disabling Sub 6 support does not mean it doesn't support it.
You will also need Additional Antenna for mmWave. Which is the critical difference.
So I have no idea what Digitimes is talking about. I wish people stop reading it. Or at best MacRumors stop posting it.
You either Support Sub 6Ghz AND mmWave. Or Sub 6 ONLY.
There is no supporting mmWave and NOT Sub 6Ghz. Disabling Sub 6 support does not mean it doesn't support it.
You will also need Additional Antenna for mmWave. Which is the critical difference.
So I have no idea what Digitimes is talking about. I wish people stop reading it. Or at best MacRumors stop posting it.
Whatever comes with the 5.4” is fine with me, even if I may not purchase until late in the year. Still haven’t made my mind up completely. Looking forward to the reveal.
I remember all comments from two years ago when Samsung was bringing a 5G device and everyone said Apple was doomed and to late. Now in hindsight they seem too early
I'm not a telecommunications expert, but once DT mentioned that the tech type would be determined by what was more poplar on a regionally-specificities basis, I thought something smelled less that fresh.
You won't be buying anything I assume then? iPhone 11 Pro has an Ultra wide camera (1.0 version), iPhone X (OLED), iPhone 7 Plus (new home button), etc.
But it sure seems a little less important with most of the world locked-down, sick or dead until 2022 doesn't it?
Well I can’t speak for other places, But here in nirway you have 0 3g coverage ( the last base stations where turnde off last year to freup frequencies for a combination of 4G and 5G) , both nerwork providers have said ( pre covid 19) that they should hav nationwide coverage on G
5G ( equivalent to todays 4G coverage) by. End of 2022 ( so let’s say mid 2023 for covid related delays), n word on sub 6GHz/ mmwave tho, so we will probsbly only get mmwave in a feaw cities, but at keast there will be fiber to evry tower so no more congestion in that part of the chain
The 3rd-gen will be even better, and just wait for the 4th gen. Everything gets better over time and is refined. But having both types of 5G will make these phones more future proof for those who do not upgrade every year.
When I leave the house, I get 5 to 15 mbps on Verizon’s latest “BEYOND UNLIMITED EXTREME UNTETHERED” or whatever their current nonsense is. *sigh*
I jumped on the LTE bandwagon too late, the rest of the world was already using it slowing it down to a crawl. Bring on the next generation. I would love to be able to watch YouTube when I’m off of my home Wi-Fi.
Apple usually doesn’t release version 1.0 of new technologies. They wait for the technology to be refined before releasing it. At least that’s what some people here say when Apple is criticized for being late to the new technology party compared to Samsung and other companies.
I believe the auction is in December.
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500 MHz frequency in the US? Where did you read this? I thought mid-band auction was coming in December. Very interested if you have any links! Thanks.
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lol, you will. remember when web pages were full of text then became media rich full of graphics, sound, etc. Samething... Websites and apps will become richer and require faster speeds.