That’s one way to make the AVP look affordable.For just $2999 … 😅
As someone who had a Z Flip 4 for two-plus years, I would be very interested in an iPhone Flip. The "pocketability" of my caseless Z Flip 4 was such a joy. It literally disappeared in the front pocket.Flip, not Fold please.
In the world of Phablets, we don't need another Foldblet.
iPhone Flip or iPhone 17 Mini ❤️
Luckily for Apple, Samsung would never copy their work.Interesting that Samsung are developing the crease free display exclusively for Apple rather than using it for their own foldable phone.
I understand all what you stated, but there’s an important factor that may be someday will be important to you as now is for me: the age.I think, for me, there are iPhone tasks and there are PC/Mac Tasks. When a task gets to the point where it would be easier on a bigger device I switch to my MBP.
Booking flights/watching YT/research etc.
I had an iPad, but sold it because it didn't do either the mac jobs well, nor the portability any better than my Mac.
I am a mountain biker, a motorcyclist, amongst other things. So a plus sized iPhone is about as heavy as I want to go for pockets, but the screen is good enough for all the tasks I ask of a phone.
I'm not sure I would really want to whip out and unfold a phone, I might as well grab a mac.
It's not something I want, and I'm not sure what purpose it serves.
I'd be curious to know how many of us actually want a folding iPhone.
Do we have a picture with the crease please, I have no idea how it looks like.The competition already has creaseless foldables
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A roll-up screen would just mean that the crease is the whole screen.Surely they could bring something new to the market like a roll-up screen that extends out and therefore never at risk from a crease in the first place.
I guess I'm just not the target market for this, but yourself and others here have helped me understand why it might be of use to others.Purpose is easy: consumer utility, 2 distinct devices- Phone + Tablet- that largely do the very same things (running the same apps) in ONE package. Consumers like utility. Recalll Jobs original pitch for iPhone: "a mobile phone, an iPod, and an internet communicator." At the time, most of us had all 3 of those as distinct devices so how did we see a purpose that an iPhone could serve by merging those 3 things into one package?
The phone is beloved- towards god-of-tech status. I think many of us struggle with any concept that threatens a big tangible change to the form factor. For example, see 10 threads in the last month towards freaking out about rumored camera module platform on back.
So recast the concept from altering "the precious" at all. How would we feel about an iPad that can fold down to be pocketable and that also runs the Apple iPhone app so it can double as a phone too? We seem to have less "the precious" attachment to iPads so the imagination of significant change can have more mental leeway.
The thing here is that both phone and tablet run the same apps. Both are in similar cases made of similar materials. Both have almost identical tech guts inside. The one big physical difference between the two is screen size. So when we argue for 2 distinct products, we're arguing for carrying around 2 very similar things when a good fold or roll design could merge those 2 into one product to carry around: small & pocketable when that matters... bigger, more useful screen when that matters. Reduce the amount of aluminum and batteries and duplicate tech (and tech weight) we carry while still being able to do everything we do on the 2 device types.
"a mobile phone, an iPod, and an internet communicator."Like all rumored new things, I suspect the apprehension and mental resistance only persists until Apple actually rolls one out. Once Apple launched their cut at the concept, we'll suddenly see plenty of purpose... plenty of problems solved by it... etc. Right now- while there is no such thing for sale from Apple- we cast it like we cast phablets while Apple still clung to 3.5" and then 4" as "perfect" screen sizes... or NFC (pay by phone) while that was only a feature on Android phones.
"an iPhone and an iPad, as a single product."
I guess I'm just not the target market for this, but yourself and others here have helped me understand why it might be of use to others.
For me, a phone is a tool, I use mine as a phone and a camera and a browser... not much else.
I have no use for a tablet, so a phone that folds out to a tablet would just be a worse phone.
I will keep buying the plus sized pro phones, and ignore the foldable options (which I imagine will be options not replacements to the pro phones)
2nd word of this story says 2026, so you have to wait for September of 2026Feels like Apple takes so much time again that the market will have gone by the time it's out. I'd happy to buy one in September if they can push it out by then.
Better margins with Apple. And Samsung Display, while mostly owned by Samsung Electronics, is still a separate company.Interesting that Samsung are developing the crease free display exclusively for Apple rather than using it for their own foldable phone.
Here we go again….No one is asking for this.
I'd actually prefer precedented aspect ratios, like 3:2 folding out to 4:3.Also, am I the only one who found this funny? “both are said to have "’unprecedented aspect ratios.’”
My GOD! Those aspect ratios are UNPRECEDENTED! 🤯 My eyes have never SEEN dimensions such as these!
I really enjoyed reading your post, I feel the same way as you and I agree with all you stated. 👌🏻Purpose is easy: consumer utility, 2 distinct devices- Phone + Tablet- that largely do the very same things (running the same apps) in ONE package. Consumers like utility. Recall Jobs' original pitch for iPhone: "a mobile phone, an iPod and an internet communicator." At the time, most of us had all 3 of those as distinct devices, so how did we see a purpose that an iPhone could serve by merging those 3 things into one package?
The phone is beloved- towards god-of-tech status. I think many of us struggle with any concept that threatens a big tangible change to the form factor. For example, see 10 threads in the last month towards freaking out about rumored camera module platform on back.
So recast the concept from altering "the precious" at all. How would we feel about an iPad that can fold down to be pocketable and that also runs the Apple iPhone app so it can double as a phone too? We seem to have less "the precious" attachment to iPads so the imagination of significant change can have more mental leeway.
The thing here is that both phone and tablet run the same apps. Both are in similar cases made of similar materials. Both have almost identical tech guts inside. The one big physical difference between the two is screen size. So when we argue for 2 distinct products, we're arguing for carrying around 2 very similar things when a good fold or roll design could merge those 2 into one product to carry around: small & pocketable when that matters... bigger, more useful screen when that matters. Reduce the amount of aluminum and batteries and duplicate tech (and tech weight) we carry while still being able to do everything we do on the 2 device types.
"a mobile phone, an iPod and an internet communicator."Like all rumored new things, I suspect the apprehension and mental resistance only persists until Apple actually rolls one out. Once Apple launches their cut at the concept, we'll suddenly see plenty of purpose... plenty of problems solved by it... etc. Right now- while there is no such thing for sale from Apple- we cast it like we cast phablets while Apple still clung to 3.5" and then 4" as "perfect" screen sizes... or NFC (pay by phone) while that was only a feature on Android phones. Before both of those, it was wall of disgust/contempt. At launch, it was "how did we ever get by with those puny screens?" and calls to boycott stores that wouldn't accept Apple Pay. What changed? Apple did not have it for sale... and then they did. Many of "our" (often very passionate) opinions seem to fluidly adjust- even flip flop- to that specific catalyst.
"an iPhone and an iPad, as a single product."