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With numbers like these, if you were Apple, why would you release an update to the Mac Pro?

I gave up waiting. Sold my G5 PowerMac to a friend and bought a 24-inch (2.8GHz) iMac. It is a wonderful machine. But, I would really like:
2nd disk
heftier graphics
more than 4GB of memory

Oh well.
 
Good, but should be better and I'm disappointed Apple seems content with that growth.

If only Apple produced a true desktop computer and not just an entry level (Mac mini), an all-in-one (iMac) and a Professional Workstation Class system (Mac Pro)...

All 3 are excellent systems, but Apple won't gain mainstream market share past a certain point if they don't make a mainstream system.
 
Good, but should be better and I'm disappointed Apple seems content with that growth.

If only Apple produced a true desktop computer and not just an entry level (Mac mini), an all-in-one (iMac) and a Professional Workstation Class system (Mac Pro)...

All 3 are excellent systems, but Apple won't gain mainstream market share past a certain point if they don't make a mainstream system.

40% of new college students buying macs. Apple market share skyrocketing.

They already have a mainstream machine, the imac and macbook.

The thing to rembember about those HP and Dull numbers is that they include commericial / office / use it as a typwriter for word sales.

I would LOVE to see their numbers if you took out those.

For family and school apple's market share must be much higher.
 
A few more quarters of similar growth and we'll be over 10%.

Developers, take note.
 
Wish I hadn't sold 1/2 my AAPL shares after the last split.

Err...they split an awfully long time ago.

I was gonna say. There was a least a few times between now and then to but. I read your pain nonetheless.

Hell, I keep wishing I could buy Google stock. But each time I get close to being able to afford it I can't becuase the price has gone up so much. How is that for irony?

They closed at $633.48 up 17.48 points. Seriously, WTF?!
 
Good, but should be better and I'm disappointed Apple seems content with that growth.

I couldn't say whether Apple is "content" with that growth rate but I doubt it. They are chalking up a remarkable track-record, which as someone else pointed out, will take Apple over 10% in short order if growth continues at this rate.

Err...they split an awfully long time ago.

I suspect he already knows that.
 
Good, but should be better and I'm disappointed Apple seems content with that growth.

If only Apple produced a true desktop computer and not just an entry level (Mac mini), an all-in-one (iMac) and a Professional Workstation Class system (Mac Pro)...

All 3 are excellent systems, but Apple won't gain mainstream market share past a certain point if they don't make a mainstream system.

I'm convinced that Apple, at least while Steve Jobs is at the helm, is not overly concerned with "mainstream" market share. Meaning, of course they would love to get 15-20%, but while maintaining their industry leading margins. The profit margins in the consumer desktop arena are razor thin, and there's not as much room for Apple to differentiate themselves; as they do in the notebook segment. Perhaps we will see a midrange tower one of these days, but I look at it more as Apple throwing people a bone, as opposed to them thinking it's an untapped source of revenue.

Look at a pc manufacturer such as Dell. They sell loads of computers but their losing money. Aapl market cap crossed $150B today. Their limited product matrix may be stifling to some, including myself, but it's hard to argue with their business model. I think Steve feels as though Apple should remain a premium brand, and as long as the Mac and OS X are regarded as the best platform around, he's cool with that.
 
An Option

AAPL closes up 3.17 point to $172.75

The question now...how much higher...I bouth at 40, then some more at 120 and just laugh at how much it keeps growing. Now, when to sell.:rolleyes:

One way you can get a little cash out of it without selling is this: If you think the price will be below $250 a share on January 18th, then you can sell options on your holdings. Today the 250s were about $1.40, which means that if, for instance, you owned 500 shares of AAPL, you could sell 5 options and receive $700. Come January 18th, if the price is below $250 you get to just keep the $700 and your AAPL shares. If it's above $250 then you still keep the $700, but you have to sell your shares for $250 a share. (which is not exactly a disaster.)

If you've got more gamble in you you could sell, say, the 200s for about $7.50. In the above example then you'd receive $3,750 in return for being willing to sell at $200 a share.
 
One way you can get a little cash out of it without selling is this: If you think the price will be below $250 a share on January 18th, then you can sell options on your holdings. Today the 250s were about $1.40, which means that if, for instance, you owned 500 shares of AAPL, you could sell 5 options and receive $700. Come January 18th, if the price is below $250 you get to just keep the $700 and your AAPL shares. If it's above $250 then you still keep the $700, but you have to sell your shares for $250 a share. (which is not exactly a disaster.)

If you've got more gamble in you you could sell, say, the 200s for about $7.50. In the above example then you'd receive $3,750 in return for being willing to sell at $200 a share.

Yea, that gets into a whole world I haven't yet ventured into. Thanks for the tip though. :)

no business sales. on a consumer level of sales.

I don't have the link handy, but there was a recent report that broke down the notebook sales. Which certainly is applicable.

But in neither report did I see information about whether the computers were for business or home use.

It would be interesting to see how much business sales are increasing.
 
Nice.

Apple is well on its way of achieving the 10% market share I predicted awhile back... :cool:
 
AAPL closes up 3.17 point to $172.75

That's a 30 point gain in 1 month.

The question now...how much higher...I bouth at 40, then some more at 120 and just laugh at how much it keeps growing. Now, when to sell.:rolleyes:

I expect Apple to be at about 200-225 in about 12 months. And possibly 300 in about 2-3 years.

Apple stock price growth is a pretty safe bet for 18-24 months.

After that, I expect Apple company growth and stock growth to slow significantly. Then again, at that point, Apple would have a bigger market cap than Microsoft. As of today, Apple is already bigger than IBM.
 
I'm not sure if I'm more gratified by Apple's growth or Dell's decline... God, how I'd love to see that company crater... I think we're witnessing the separation of the business and home markets for computers. That ought to give Apple relatively easy access to 20% share, with time.

I do love how everyone seems so deeply into Steve's head, though...

im worried people will start developing more viruses for apple products the more popular it gets
Do you sleep on the floor because you're worried about monsters under your bed?
 
I'm terrified of the day when Apple gets into Cubicles. Financial Aid at UCDavis is switching macs which is a massive mistake. The people are used to Windows based machines. I just smirk whenever I see parallels launched and that's all the people are using.

Oh well. More work for the OS X nerd that I am.
 
im worried people will start developing more viruses for apple products the more popular it gets

Don't buy into the market share=more viruses argument. There's some truth there, but it's not the whole story. There are other factors beyond market share that influence a platform/software's chances of getting viruses or having security exploits.

The best example I've seen is the Apache vs. IIS. Apache has a much larger market share than IIS and yet, it's the latter that has the most security issues.

Bear in mind too that many of the viruses on Windows can be traced back directly to very, very dumb decisions by MS: automatically opening attachments in Outlook, leaving ports open, RPC exploits, sloppy programming resulting in buffer overflows, giving user account admin-like access, etc.

Here's another thing to consider. OS 9 never had the market share than OS X does and yet there were viruses for OS 9. None for OS X however.

There are hundreds of examples like this. The whole market share argument has been thoroughly debunked by now. It's a popular thing to say because it gives MS apologists a way to defend MS and simultaneously take a swipe at OS X's relatively smaller user base. There's not a lot of substance to that argument.

I have no doubt that OS X will have security issues, but I will be surprised to see it ever approach anything like what exists on Windows.
 
im worried people will start developing more viruses for apple products the more popular it gets

I'm sorry, but this is something window fanatics say. I am not saying it isn't possible, but wouldn't we have seen one by now?? I don't care what people say that market share is the determining factor. If there are people who do this for fun or challenge, why not be the one to write a virus on an OS whose company proclaims on TV commercials, websites, etc to be the most secure OS out there? Is it because all the virus writers use OSX/Linux? Hmmmmm...
 
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