Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
I'd estimate based on statements from Apple:

140 million Macs
375 million iPods (including 100 million iPod touches)
385 million iPhones
150 million iPads

1.05 billion devices!

Sold to the same people over and over again. I wonder how many people own or have owned an Apple device. Probably impossible to find out but interesting non the less.
 
Sold to the same people over and over again. I wonder how many people own or have owned an Apple device. Probably impossible to find out but interesting non the less.

What's your point? 500 million accounts and 1 billion devices sold implies around 2 per account.
 
2. Streaming music. Apple is rumored to be introducing its "iRadio" streaming service next week at its Worldwide Developers Conference, and Huberty suggests that Apple could generate $1 billion per year in revenue from such a service. Huberty's numbers do, however, include both subscription and display ad revenue, while recent rumors have indicated that Apple's service would be free to users with no mention of paid tiers.

If it's free with ads, I don't think I'll use it. I'd rather pay some money not to have ads.

3. Ad exchange. Earlier this week, it was reported by a source in the ad industry that Apple is looking to launch its own ad exchange, leveraging its existing iAd business and its massive ecosystem of users and devices to provide targeted advertising.

1000 times no. I don't want Apple to start using my data for ad-targeting. That's a Google move.
 
What's so hard to believe that the biggest publicly traded company in the world which happen to have the biggest app and music stores have more than 400 millions accounts?

Are you saying that Apple is lying?

Let's just say that I don't believe Apple has 400 million active credit card numbers all from different people on their system.

Until recently iTunes wasn't even available in most countries around the world and even now the majority of iTunes Stores only sell apps.

If it is true that would make Apple by far the largest bank in the world with 400 million customers. The next largest is Industrial & Commercial bank of China (ICBC) with 286 million customers.
 
Last edited:
What's your point? 500 million accounts and 1 billion devices sold implies around 2 per account.

2% of what? 2% of the world's population own an Apple device? Is that what you're saying. That would be 140m people.

Apple sold 241m devices in 2012 but I would guess the average Apple user probably bought 3 devices in the year, that's maybe 80m customers in total.

So yeah 140m around the world is probably not that far off. Maybe a bit higher.
 
2% of what? 2% of the world's population own an Apple device? Is that what you're saying. That would be 140m people.

Apple sold 241m devices in 2012 but I would guess the average Apple user probably bought 3 devices in the year, that's maybe 80m customers in total.

So yeah 140m around the world is probably not that far off. Maybe a bit higher.

2%? I never said that at all. I said around 2 devices sold per account.

I have no idea how you come to the idea that the average Apple user buys 3 devices per year.
 
2%? I never said that at all. I said around 2 devices sold per account.

I have no idea how you come to the idea that the average Apple user buys 3 devices per year.

Ok sorry my mistake. I've still no idea what point you're trying to make though. It's 500m current accounts versus 1bn devices sold over 35 years. The 2 figures don't equate.

As for the 3 devices per user it's just a guess based on what I do and friends who have Apple products do.
 
Apples re-thinking of NFC ?

What changed their mind ?

Where this says "Apple could easily turn iTunes/App Store into mobile payment service.", it almost sounds like they'll be replacing physical payment, and Apple is pushing towards mobile services in replacement of physical services.
 
Ok sorry my mistake. I've still no idea what point you're trying to make though. It's 500m current accounts versus 1bn devices sold over 35 years. The 2 figures don't equate.

Exactly. I was pointing out the high end to give you the benefit of the doubt. So the number of devices sold over the last 6 years or so (over 800 million) would imply less than two devices per account. Which makes your theory even less likely.

As for the 3 devices per user it's just a guess based on what I do and friends who have Apple products do.

Ahh. The most frequent mistake on this forum. :D

(You really buy three Apple devices per year? Wow.)
 
Yes it will. I know it exactly. Really!
And who would buy a phone without NFC these days?
NFC is soo damn important!

Important for what? It's not widely used on the market, yet, not even close to that point.
 
500 Million accounts is an impressive number. So they actually have more iTunes/AppStore customers than they have sold iOS devices and Macs...?

...Especially since there's quite a few people who own Macs and don't have an iTunes account. I can think of at least half a dozen people that I know off the top of my head that own Macs but no iTunes account.
 
Why do some people seem to think that "services" are solely defined by areas that Google excels in?

<snip>
You quoted my post...where exactly did I say ANYTHING about Google? You seem to have jumped to the conclusion that by saying that (IMO) Apple's online services are sub-bar, that I'm automatically adding "and Google's are better".
 
When people bash Apple services, do they forget the app and iTunes Store? I have used them now for years and can not recall ever having a failed or even slow download on my wi-Fi.

Just because mobileme sucked does not need to taint other apple services that do well. Push notification, iMessage (no one is doing better, but could improve) FaceTime (never have issues, better quality than Skype), iTunes Match (again never have had a problem), iCloud (my phone has always backed up and be able to restore no problem, never lost my contacts or any data I have in iCloud.

Could Apple improve? Of course put they do a damn good job for running as much as their services are used. Dont forget even googe has occasional gmail outages.
 
When people bash Apple services, do they forget the app and iTunes Store? I have used them now for years and can not recall ever having a failed or even slow download on my wi-Fi.

Just because mobileme sucked does not need to taint other apple services that do well. Push notification, iMessage (no one is doing better, but could improve) FaceTime (never have issues, better quality than Skype), iTunes Match (again never have had a problem), iCloud (my phone has always backed up and be able to restore no problem, never lost my contacts or any data I have in iCloud.

Could Apple improve? Of course put they do a damn good job for running as much as their services are used. Dont forget even googe has occasional gmail outages.

Apples online services are far more than fine for the majority of their customers. If it weren't apple wouldn't be as successful as it is. These "online services sucks" stuff is just forum talking points. You know like apple maps and cults and brainwashing etc.
 
500 Million accounts is an impressive number. So they actually have more iTunes/AppStore customers than they have sold iOS devices and Macs...?

I opened my iTunes account when I was still on a PC and had just aquired my first, old fashioned, hard-drive iPod. This was before anyone had ever (outside of Apple) had ever dreamed of iOS.
 
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.