Apple's AirPort Utility App Finally Gains Support for iPhone X Display

[burgman]

I switched to Eero mesh. It's as close to an Apple product as you'd ever want.

Try Google Wifi. It's almost a clone. Minus the audio jack/Airplay.

Managed WiFi that requires an internet connection to function isn’t a great option in environments where you want to continue working if internet goes down and need WiFi to do that.
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Dude, I'm sorry, but give me a break! Please show me some INTERNAL network transfers where you're coming anywhere close gigabit speeds. 802.11ac has speeds of 1.3 Gbps and I seriously doubt you're anywhere close maxing that out.

Did you miss 6 years? Do you know what will be required in 5 years for network speeds?

 

[ikir]

Very nice, thanks Apple for this and AirPlay 2 for Express. I have an AirPort Extreme router and it is incredible still rocking after many years.

 

[thomas040]

This is so backwards. After years of software neglect, they announce they will discontinue the airport line, and a flurry of software updates that enable their compatibility with latest hardware comes out? Like, ... whaaat ?

 

[dontwalkhand]

This is so backwards. After years of software neglect, they announce they will discontinue the airport line, and a flurry of software updates that enable their compatibility with latest hardware comes out? Like, ... whaaat ?

The iPhone 5S is discontinued yet they’re still updating it. It’s Apple and it’s good customer service.

 

[nutmac]

Try Google Wifi. It's almost a clone. Minus the audio jack/Airplay.

Nah, Google Wifi is known to have subpar backhaul connection between each unit. Latency should not increase on proper mesh router.

And Google has a history of discontinuing products that no longer interests them. I prefer to equip my house with mesh routers from more dedicated company, such as Eero.
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Managed WiFi that requires an internet connection to function isn’t a great option in environments where you want to continue working if internet goes down and need WiFi to do that.

Eero recently released a firmware update that adds LAN persistence. While I still cannot use the Eero mobile app to manage Eero devices if the Internet goes out, LAN seems to work okay now.

 

[farewelwilliams]

Managed WiFi that requires an internet connection to function isn’t a great option in environments where you want to continue working if internet goes down and need WiFi to do that.

you only need internet to setup. after that, it works while offline.

 

[colticus]

Awesome. The one thing left I didn’t like.

I was using a single newest model extreme but recently switched to the orbi. Didn’t like it and purchased two more extremes and have them connected via Ethernet. I get much better coverage and speeds.

 

[iapplelove]

Nice surprise
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Managed WiFi that requires an internet connection to function isn’t a great option in environments where you want to continue working if internet goes down and need WiFi to do that.

As my TC slowly ages I’m looking towards other options. Google WiFi is at the top of the list mainly because of price and the google WiFi app gets updated every day.

Do you mean because it’s app based only (no desktop) if internet goes out you won’t be able to manage the network? Just trying to get a better understanding.

 

[usarioclave]

If you're looking for an AEBS replacement, plume might fit the bill. I replaced an AEBS and a couple of AEs with a 4-node plume system, and so far it works pretty well. WiFi overall is faster, and I don't have to bother isolating the slower devices (b/g) on their own network.

The AEs that are still running are hooked into the plume as network clients.

Plume's management features are pretty OK, and they're stronger than Apple's. For example, you can have a total access password, a restricted guest password (so guests can stream to your devices etc), and a guest/internet only password. Both of the latter can expire after a certain time.

It's not Ubiquiti level of control, but it's pretty handy for most users.

At some point Plume will also replace my Circle, which I use to do a second level of access control.

The downside is that the AEs don't support USB drives, so my AEBS time machine drive went away.

 

[nt5672]

This is so backwards. After years of software neglect, they announce they will discontinue the airport line, and a flurry of software updates that enable their compatibility with latest hardware comes out? Like, ... whaaat ?

Welcome to Cook's uncontrolled Apple reality.

 

[DonutHands]

Need new home wi-fi?

Netgear Orbi, I have installed around 20 of them.

Easy mobile app setup? ✓

Web config as well? ✓ (many other mesh offerings can only be setup by mobile app)

Fastest backhaul between nodes? ✓

Sold by established network hardware manufacturer? ✓ (how many of these kickstarter mesh network things are going to pan out long term? how long will updates be available?)

 

[ThomasJL]

A trillion dollar company can’t release a timely update to an app. What great management skills you have, Tim Cook!

 

[manu chao]

11th hour update for new-model phone app to support legacy hardware. Weird. I guess a bunch of us still have Apple networking. Aging products but I like utility’s UI.

It's possible that one of the guys working on Airplay 2 (or just 'somebody') was given time to bring Airplay 2 to the Airport Express and while he or she was at it also spend some time on updating the Airport app.

 

[ksec]

I switched to Eero mesh. It's as close to an Apple product as you'd ever want.

One of the reason I think Apple should acquire the company. Although some people suggest as ISP offer Router as default the market will shrink.

 

[justincalif]

Actually, are you also hoping that your iPhone 3GS is going to support iOS 12 too?

 

[Blackstick]

One of the reason I think Apple should acquire the company. Although some people suggest as ISP offer Router as default the market will shrink.

I don’t think it’s a market they’re willing to be in any longer, as to your point, most ordinary people just rely on whatever their ISP gives them that’s included with their service.

 

[macduke]

Dude, I'm sorry, but give me a break! Please show me some INTERNAL network transfers where you're coming anywhere close gigabit speeds. 802.11ac has speeds of 1.3 Gbps and I seriously doubt you're anywhere close maxing that out.

I do web design and development and often work from home. I'm connecting to a really fast web and file server at a university that is only a few miles away connected to a large backbone and utilizing SSDs. I do max it out on the regular—so if you could kindly stop talking and telling me what I do an do not need, that would be great. Have a good day!

 

[ksec]

I don’t think it’s a market they’re willing to be in any longer, as to your point, most ordinary people just rely on whatever their ISP gives them that’s included with their service.

Yes it should operate like Filemaker. Completely independent of Apple, but also making sure there are decent Router and Mesh network on the market that also work 100% with Mac and iPhone. They could also help Eero to talk to ISP and offer there router + modem instead. Given Apple has connection to every ISP on the planet. It will help push the Wireless Router and Modem appliance forward, without the Apple badge on it.

 

[Menel]

Yes, very nice but I want a firmware update! It’s been almost a year damn it! I want my update fix!

huh? they did. 7.8 added Airplay 2
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Between this and the AirPlay 2 update the other day, I'm hoping that Apple has a WiFi hardware surprise in store for us next week. Probably not, but it warms my heart to think about it, lol.


I'm going to upgrade to this once an 802.11ax version comes out. I've got gigabit at my house now so I'm going to need something faster for full-home coverage if it's going to last me another 6 years or so with future internet upgrades on DOCSIS 3.1. For now I'm only paying for 500Mbps until I have newer hardware.

I assume you have an Airport Extreme, you are able to route wan-lan packets at 500mbps?

We abandoned Airport Extremes when even the AC tower version couldn't route faster than about 350mbps IIRC. Their WIFI is pretty awesome, packet routing engine is woefully lacking.

edit: yea smallnetbuilder backs that up, ugggh 325mbps, so ******.
https://www.smallnetbuilder.com/wir...ort-extreme-80211ac-reviewed?showall=&start=1

Sure you're getting 500 through one of these? or only using it as an AP?

We migrated to Orbi and Ubiquity depending on site.

 

[macduke]

huh? they did. 7.8 added Airplay 2
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I assume you have an Airport Extreme, you are able to route wan-lan packets at 500mbps?

We abandoned Airport Extremes when even the AC tower version couldn't route faster than about 350mbps IIRC. Their WIFI is pretty awesome, packet routing engine is woefully lacking.

edit: yea smallnetbuilder backs that up, ugggh 325mbps, so ******.
https://www.smallnetbuilder.com/wir...ort-extreme-80211ac-reviewed?showall=&start=1

Sure you're getting 500 through one of these? or only using it as an AP?

We migrated to Orbi and Ubiquity depending on site.

Oh mainly as AP, probably not but was better than the 200 I had on the line before and there's nothing in between. Actually they only offer 100/500 now when you get a new contract so…yeah. Would rather wait for 802.11ax and not have to put in an expensive mesh twice. I'm hoping there will be some good hardware available by early next year.

 

[hvfsl]

Need wifi that'll support my 10Gbps fiber at home. Recommendations?

You are going to want a 802.11 ad device then, although I don't think anyone has actually released an access point that supports it yet. Plus you are going to need to upgrade all your devices.

 

[lec0rsaire]

huh? they did. 7.8 added Airplay 2

I have a 5th gen TC. No new firmware since 7.7.9 last year.

 

[ablatt]

Can you still do a WiFi Scan with this new version of Airport Utiilty?

 

[Menel]

I have a 5th gen TC. No new firmware since 7.7.9 last year.

What time capsule.. has an audio interface... for AirPlay 2?
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Can you still do a WiFi Scan with this new version of Airport Utiilty?

Yes

 

[lec0rsaire]

What time capsule.. has an audio interface... for AirPlay 2?

No, no, no. I wasn’t specifically asking for an airplay update, just a regular firmware update.